Speaking In Tongues Wednesday, Nov 2 2011

Does anyone know Bethany’s teaching or stance on “speaking in tongues”? I’ve Bern informed it’s a requirement for Cell Leaders? Any material helps!

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Stockstillians Brag About Quanity Not Quality Saturday, Nov 27 2010

10,000 members and growing?! Signs and Wonders?!

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

I’ve taken a long break and have decided to respond to copy and paste claims from the common Stockstillians defending Bethany World Prayer Center. It seems they have given up on the “personal opinions defense” such as:

 

1. You’re wrong and I don’t have to offer proof, that ‘s my belief
2. You’re obviously upset
3. You’re a jerk
4. You’re the devil
5. You have unforgiveness
6. O.K., Joel was wrong but we should NEVER speak against prophets
7. Joel has had false prophecies but it’s o.k. no prophet was perfect
8. It’s not about bible study, it’s about signs and wonders

 

Now their proof that I’m wrong about the Stockstills Ministry is based on another STRAW HOUSE,I.E., various and often conflicting calculations of their membership. I’ve heard the exact same number, 10,000, for years! Then as noted in past articles they claim hundreds and sometimes thousands have been “saved” in the Baton Rouge Metro’ area in a single weekend and crowd Bethany’s various congregations consistently. 

So, according to the Bible are MANY followers the ONLY proof that a prophet is true and we should turn a blind eye to that prophet’s failed prophecies? If a man arrives and claims to be annointed, will you turn a blind eye to his teachings because of the numbers that attend his sermons?

Matthew 7:15–23 (ESV)

¹⁵“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

¹⁶You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

¹⁷So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.

¹⁸A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.

¹⁹Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

²⁰Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

²¹“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

²²On that day MANY will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord,

• did we not prophesy in your name
•  and cast out demons in your name
•  and do MANY mighty works in your name?’

²³And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Christ describes this group of people who follow false prophets as “MANY” not few. It should be obvious Christ did not say, “Well, False Prophet atleast you brought MANY IN MY NAME. Good Job!”.

Instead Christ on Judgement Day explicity tells us that he is unconcerned about QUANITY(many) and wants QUALITY(good fruit). These MANY are called before Christ to give an accounting to their conduct. They obviously knew this person to be a False Prophet yet followed him. These MANY want Christ to ignore the fact that this Prophet is indeed false. These MANY want Christ to look at:

• DID WE NOT PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME
• AND CAST OUT DEMONS IN YOUR NAME
• AND DO MANY MIGHTY WORKS IN YOUR NAME

All of that meant nothing. These warnings have been in place from old:

Jeremiah 5:31 (ESV)

³¹the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?

What will you do when the end comes?! Read what The Sciptures teach and warn about False Prophets! How does The Scriptures describe False Prophets? What will happen if I turn a blind eye when my pastor’s prophecy claims don’t come to past and fail? “What will you do when the end comes(Jer.5:31)?

Will you turn a blind eye when your Pastor/Prophet is obviously using Scripture for unjust gain?

Jeremiah 6:13 (ESV)

¹³“For from the least to the greatest of them, everyone is greedy for unjust gain; and from prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely.

Mark 13:22–23 (ESV)

²²For false christs and FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND PERFORM SIGNS AND WONDERS, TO LEAD ASTRAY, if possible, the elect.

²³But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

Christ tells us that Signs and Wonders are not proof in of themselves. In The Last Days it’s “TO LEAD ASTRAY“.

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Haiti Deserved The EarthQuake? Thursday, Jan 14 2010

WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN LARRY STOCKSTILL’S RECOMMENDED CHRISTIAN COALITION HAS CALLED OUR FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT A MONKEY(click here) BUT NOW THE CHRISTIAN COALITIONS FOUNDER PAT ROBERTSON SAYS THE EARTHQUAKE THAT HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF HAITIANS IS DUE TO THEIR PACT WITH SATAN and IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE!

IN AGREEMENT BETHANY’S PROPHET JOEL STOCKSTILL  CLAIMS HAITI IS “…THE MOST SATANIC , VOODOO INFESTED NATION IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE”(his blog entry here!

 

This is another self-proclaimed prophet who claims that Haiti's destruction is a blessing in disguise because atleast they'll get newer buildings. Adding insult to injury,this prophet claims the earthquake is a result of The Nation of Haiti making a pact with Satan to get rid of their slave masters and Satan agreed to chase the French oppressors out of Haiti on their behalf.

 

 VIDEO HERE: “prophet” Pat Roberston’s claims

The Ambassador of Hait responds to the racist rumors about the kidnapped Africans’ freedom and people like Joel Stockstill and Pat Robertson need to be thankful because it enabled THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE!! View Here:.  Joel, at first you embarassed your black remnant but now your statement is an embarassment to christians worldwide, especially our brothers and sisters in Haiti.

It’s ironic how Pat Robertson blames these victims for their own severe poverty and ignores the following:

These Africans are so judgmental! Jesus clearly tells them not to judge us, WE'RE MAKING DISCIPLES!! They aren't doing anything but complaining against our version of Christianity but that's just their opinion. It's not about who has the right Jesus, these Africans are so judgmental! (Pat Roberston blames them for their own poverty and ignores the facts that:

 

1. THESE AFRICANS WERE KIDNAPPED FROM THEIR OWN LAND
2. THESE AFRICAN WERE KIDNAPPED FROM THEIR FAMILIES
3. THESE AFRICANS WERE KEPT FROM LEARNING OR EDUCATING THEMSELVES
4. THESE AFRICANS WERE FORCED INTO HARD LABOR
5. THESE AFRICANS WERE EXPOSED TO MANY EUROPEAN DISEASES
6. THE CONQUERORS EXPLOITED THE ISLAND FOR ITS GOLD
7. THE AFRICAN WHO REFUSED TO MINE WERE SLAUGHTERED
8. THE INDIGENOUS AND AFRICANS FLED TO THE MOUNTAINS IN ISOLATION
9. MALNUTRITION BY EUROPEANS CAUSED FURTHER DISEASE
10.  THE FRENCH BUCCANEERS FURTHER ADDED TO THE ABOVE PROBLEMS FOR THE KIDNAPPED AFRICANS
11. THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC BECAME WEALTHIER THAN HAITI BECAUSE THE SLAVE MASTER LIVED AND INVESTED IN THE REPUBLIC WHILE THE SLAVES LIVED AND MINED IN HAITI
12. HAITI WAS DEVASTED BY SEVERAL WARS FOR FREEDOM
13. HAITI WAS DEVASTED BY CIVIL WARS BETWEEN THE CONQUERORS THEMSELVES
14. IN 1937, DICTATOR RAFAEL TRUJILLO ORDERED HIS ARMY TO KILL ANY HAITAN LIVING IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (KNOW AS THE PARSLEY MASSACRE)
15. APARTHEID(ANTIHAITIANISMO) WAS INSTITUTED ON THE ISLAND
16. HAITI IS PREDOMINATELY CHRISTIAN- %80 CATHOLIC, %16 PROTESTANT(though protestants claim it’s reversed), HAITIAN VOODOO AND OTHER UNKNOWN

 

According to Pat Robertson this father has his enslaved ancestors to blame.

 

If there is anyone to blame, it’s those acting on behalf of Europe that ruined the intellect of these people!  Haiti was segregated. The Slave Masters and their descendants even enforced it by executing blacks and the natives. The kidnapped Africans’  people in South Africa experienced the same dictatorship. Are we to conclude that the poverty and corruption  in their country is due to its pact with Satan and not how the European Slave Masters divided the natives and incited this mess before being ousted?

 

"Despite your nations' large Christian population, "the pact" needs to be officially broken. We have this thing called THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL that you should look into. O.K. the first version of oppressive Christiainity you received wasn't correct but this one promises if you give over-and-beyond, Jesus will make your Nation rich! You have to reverse the curse with money!! Oh yeah, you're poor. I'll pray for you.", Prosperity Gospel Televangelist.

However, I know what the Stockstillians will say….

 ”It’s o.k., didn’t you hear the prophet Pat Robertson instruct us disciples to pray for them, this is a blessing in disguise and he is a prophet. This is due to their pact with Satan and their poverty has nothing to do with the history of being oppressed or discriminated against”. Furthermore,  our prophets saw this coming they just forgot to blog about it.”

 

In contrast to their Christian Coalition prophet, our President comforted the Haitian Nation by telling them they won’t be forsaken.

I wonder if "The Remnant" at Bethany will continue to remain quiet or continue to condone Larry's endorsment of this false christian agency. They're probally too busy making disciples by signs and wonders.

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) — A senior White House adviser says evangelist broadcaster Pat Robertson’s remark that Haiti has been “cursed” doesn’t express the spirit of the American people or the president(Click here for story).

 

JOEL STOCKSTILL SAYS HAITI IS THE MOST SATANIC NATION IN THE WEST(read here)

Bethany's "prophet" Joel Stockstill commented on the destruction of Haiti by describing it as "...THE MOST SATANIC, VOODOO INFESTED NATION OF THE WESTERN HEMSIPHERE....". I wonder what the disclaimer will be this time? I also wonder where Bethany's prophet received his Stats' from because I have yet to find any that agrees with this so-called Christian that Haiti is "...THE MOST SATANIC, VOODOO INFESTED NATION OF THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE....". Oh I know, He probally gets his stats from Larry's recommended links, Pat Roberston who likewise claims Haiti is cursed!

It seems Joel forgets the many Trees Bethany erects in God’s House and which they dress up during December has it’s roots in European paganism. I’m sure Bethany’s annointed preachers overlooked the fact that their feast of “easter” with it’s eggs and rabbit symbols also has roots in European paganism. Also, Bethany’s unbiblical rituals like being slain-in-the-spirit and proclaiming failed prophecies and their version of “speaking in tongues” which Paul prohibited.

BUT IT'S OKAY, IT'S EUROPEAN PAGANISM. WE ONLY CONDEMN AFRICAN PAGANISM IF MIXED WITH CHRISTIANITY!

ONCE AGAIN, if we use Joel’s standard back on his ministry we would conclude that Bethany is the most “SATANIC….VOODOO INFESTED” church in the Western Hemisphere. But I know, I know, it’s o.k. because he’s annointed. It’s amazing how he totally ignores the mix of European paganism in his brand of Christianity yet attempts to remove the splinter in the Haitians’ eyes.

ONCE AGAIN, IF WE USE BETHANY'S PROPHET'S STANDARD NORTH AMERICA WOULD BE THE MOST SATANIC NATION NOT HAITI! PASSOVER IS GOD'S HOLY DAY NOT THE idol easter!

P.S., you think the world doesn’t realize these prophets have failed prophecies? Take a look at how Jimmy Kimmel mocks the Church thanks to the many AND I MEAN MANY FAILED PROPHECIES of Larry’s recommended Christian Coalition founder, Pat Robertson(view here).

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Larry Stockstill’s $4,600 Donation To Huckabee Saturday, Jan 2 2010

 LARRY’S $4,600.00 DONATION TO MIKE HUCKABEE’S CAMPAIGN

Mike Huckabee Supports South Carolina's Fight To Fly Confederate Flag Over State Capital, Spreads His Hate With Larry's $4,600.00 donation.

 

     Why is this important to note? Because there seems to be an unbroken link to racists and Larry Stockstill’s support! So far a summary of discoveries:

1. LARRY STOCKSTILL RECOMMENDS THE FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL WHICH USED THE RACIAL INSULT OF MONKEY TO DESCRIBE THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
2. LARRY STOCKSTILL SUPPORTS THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WHICH HAVE BEEN SUED SUCCESSFULLY FOR RACISM IN 2001 AND ALSO CALLED THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT A MONKEY
3. LARRY STOCKSTILL VOLUNTEERED TO BE THE PERSONAL PASTOR TO GOV.FOSTER WHO PURCHASED DAVID DUKE’S K.K.K. MAILING LIST OF VOTERS 
4. THE CHRISTIAN COALITION’S FIGHT TO SAVE TALK SHOW RADIO HOSTS RUSH LIMBAUGH AND FOX NEWS HOSTS

 

NOW ANOTHER RACIST LINK

 

     Now another link! As made aware by a poster, Bleeding Heart Liberal, Larry Stockstill donated $4,600 to Mike Huckabee’s Campaign in November2007 as noted in the (F)ederal (E)lection (C)ommission’s website in their Financial Donor’s Transactions(Click Here). 

 

THE CONFEDERATE FLAG STILL FLIES ON THE GROUNDS OF THE S.C. STATE CAPITAL

 

      As many are aware of, South Carolina has been in a debate over whether to continue to fly The Confederate Flag over their State Capital or not(CLICK HERE FOR BRIEFING). The reason,  Sen. John McCain and Civil Rights Groups and Democrats, claim it to be a symbol of oppression and racism. As noted by the Fox News Network MIKE HUCKABEE supported the choice of flying The Confederate Flag .

 

      As a result, Sen. John McCain was blasted and Mike Huckabee received praises. Mike Huckabee went as far as to tell the Pro-Confederate Flag crowd that his good-ole boys in Arkansas wouldn’t tolerate that type of “outside interference” by some trouble makers sticking their nose in that type of business. In fact, Mike Huckabee said Arkansas would “…TELL THEM WHERE TO PUT THE POLE, THAT’S WHAT WE’D DO!(Click Here For C.B.S. News Coverage)”. Here is Mike Huckabee on video making his statement defending the Confederate Flag And with Larry Stockstill’s donation of $4,600.00 he could travel and spread his hateful flag and racist views.But of course Larry’s Black Remnant remains quiet?!

 

HUCKABEE REMOVES ALL DOUBT ABOUT HIS STANCE ON CONFEDERATE FLAG

 

From CBS News’ Joy Lin:

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. — “South Carolinians know true conservatism when they see it,” said Mike Huckabee to voters at his brief touchdown at a Myrtle Beach jet hangar.

“You don’t like people from outside the state coming and telling you how you oughta raise your kids. You don’t like people coming from outside the state coming down and telling you what you want to do with your flag.”

“In fact, if someone came to the state of Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we’d tell them where to put the pole – that’s what we’d do,” said Huckabee.

Huckabee brought up the Confederate flag issue at the first two stops of his puddle-jumping tour today — first in Myrtle Beach and later in Florence.

    

I give credit where credit is due. In an interview with Katie Kouric(Interview Called “Worst Advice” by C.B.S.), John McCain was asked what was the worst piece of advice HE had given to another person. In the said video clip at minutes 01:37 -2:21 Sen. John McCain ,unlike Larry’s financially FILLED Huckabee, stated:

I SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST SOUTH CAROLINA STATE CAPITOL FLYING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG.

“THE WORST PIECE OF ADVICE I’VE GIVEN TO MYSELF WAS WHEN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG WAS FLYING OVER THE STATE CAPITAL IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND I DECIDED I’D DECIDED THAT I WOULD SAY THAT’S NOT AN ISSUE THAT I SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN. THAT IT SHOULD BE DECIDED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. (((I KNEW THAT IT WAS A SYMBOL THAT WAS VERY OFFENSIVE))) TO MANY PEOPLE AND…AFTERWARDS I WENT BACK AND APOLOGIZED BUT IT WAS…NEEDLESS TO SAY. BY SAYING THAT I WOULDN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH AN ISSUE LIKE THAT (((WAS AN ACT OF COWARDICE))) “. 

 

Wow, now that took courage! Another Rebuplican, Mitt Romney, echoed John McCain’s stance during a CNN Webinar(SEE HERE):

“RIGHT NOW WITH THE KINDS OF ISSUES WE’VE GOT IN THIS COUNTRY, I’M NOT GONNA GET INVOLVED IN A FLAG LIKE THAT, THAT’S NOT A FLAG THAT I RECOGNIZE OR THAT I WOULD HOLD UP IN MY ROOM. THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY HAVE DECIDED NOT TO FLY THAT FLAG. I THINK THAT’S THE RIGHT THING. MY OWN VIEW IS THAT THIS COUNTRY CAN GO BEYOND THAT KIND OF STUFF(00:00-00:49)….”

 

 

Out Of All The "Conservatives" To Financially Support Why Would Larry Stockstill Donate $4,600.00 To A Canidate That Condones The Continued Flying Of The Offensive Confederate Flag?! Well Atleast We Know Of Another Louisiana Boy Who Agrees It Should Be Hung On The Wall or Flown In Public!

Now, with two Republicans speaking against this sign of racial oppression why did Larry Stockstill financially back the ONLY RACIST WHO DEFENDED THE FLAG WITH $4,600.00 in donations??!! The only time they jumped on the McCain/Palin Bandwagon was when their Rebel Flag fellow lost the nomination! I guess Huckabee was too honest and open,Ooops!

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Worry About Tithing NOT JUSTICE AND MERCY??!! Monday, Dec 14 2009

WELL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IT’S TIME TO BE SHOCKED AGAIN BY THE CULT OF BETHANY WORLD PRAYER CENTER, PLEASE PRAY FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO BLIND GUIDES LEADING OUR CHILDREN INTO DITCHES!     

      

     

“Jesus Said DON’T WORRY About Justice, Mercy, And Faith(30:23) if you ain’t even learn to tithe”, Joel Stockstill.

      

Joel’s latest sermon has confirmed that his Black Remnant is either illiterate or or place Joel Stockstill in a holier place than their Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. Joel Stockstill has received complaints that Christ Jesus didn’t command us to tithe. After assuring his Black Remnant the answer is “YES”, Joel asks for Matthew 23:23 to be placed on the big screen. I’ll use the EXACT SAME english version of the greek text that Joel used to quote from.   

(Please note:  Please read it carefully and slowly and allow the context of the oppressive nature of the Pharisees and Lawyers on the poor that Christ constantly chastised their group for. Also cross reference other situations where Christ rebuked the leaders like Joel for burdening the people with unmerciful demands instead of helping them;  Here it is:     

      

23 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest part of your income, but YOU IGNORE THE IMPORTANT THINGS OF THE LAW – justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but you should not leave undone the more important things(Mt.23:23, NLT).     

      

Now Joel’s Version”(Minutes 30:16-26). He’s saying DON’T WORRYABOUT JUSTICE, MERCY, AND FAITH(30:23) IF you ain’t even learned to tithe”     

      

Joel’s version of Jesus claims that Christ IS NOT CONCERNED about:     

1. JUSTICE-The principle or ideal of just dealing and right action
2. MERCY- Compassion or a blessing that is an act of divine favor
3. FAITH- Complete trust.

      

This is Amazing!! Right before their very eyes, Joel misquotes Scripture to prove to them Jesus stated that TITHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUSTICE, MERCY, AND FAITH! Poor Christ and His true words.      

Leaven and Burdens of The Pharisees:

Christ condemns the Pharisees in Joel’s proof-text because they  not only required the tithe BUT REQUIRED TITHES ON OTHER agriculture NOT LISTED in God’s law.  The (U)nited (B)ible (S)ocieties’ (T)ranslators (H)andbook informs potential translators:     

[Page 716] According to Deuteronomy 14.23, grain, wine, and olive oil were required to be tithed, though there is no mention of the requirement to tithe seasoning herbs such as mint and dill and cummin. It is possible though that this regulation was imposed by the Pharisaic interpretation of the Law. Newman, B. M., & Stine, P. C. (1992). A handbook on the Gospel of Matthew. Originally published: A translator’s handbook on the Gospel of Matthew, c1988. UBS helps for translators; UBS handbook series (716). New York: United Bible Societies.

      

Christ warned the crowds ahead of time of these burdens in the EXACT SAME CHAPTER(using Joel’s version of the greek text again)     

      

Mt.23:4 They crush you with impossible religious demands and never lift a finger to help ease the burden.     

      

These Pharisees forced people to give over and beyond what the Bible teaches YET THEY DON’T PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH! Just like The Stockstills who:     

1. Require The Poor To Make Financial Sacrifices BUT THEY TRAVEL ABROAD and SPEND WITHOUT DISCRETION
2. Require The Poor To Tithe(their version not the bible) money even if they can’t afford it, yet they claim to tithe from the church’s abundance.
3. Coerce The Poor To Tithe every paycheck not just the first[fruit]
4. Require the poor to tithe and never question what Bethany is doing with it
5. Require the poor to tithe even if they flush it down the toilet!

      

Christ condemned such Pharisaic oppression on the people. Again, the U.B.S. Translators Handbook informs potential translators:     

 “They bind heavy burdens is a figure that suggests that the way the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees required people to do many difficult things to fulfill the law was like giving them heavy loads to carry. For some the biblical form will be relatively well understood, as in TEV: “They tie onto people’s backs loads that are heavy and hard to carry.” Other translators will use comparisons of some sort; for example, “They force people to obey difficult rules that are like burdens on their backs.” Another possibility is to drop the image altogether, as in “They oblige people to do very difficult things” or “They give people many obligations that are difficult to carry out.” TEV Today’s English Version Newman, B. M., & Stine, P. C. (1992). A handbook on the Gospel of Matthew. Originally published: A translator’s handbook on the Gospel of Matthew, c1988. UBS helps for translators; UBS handbook series (703). New York: United Bible Societies.     

      

Joel’s version of Jesus has once again sided with the oppressing Pharisees and Teachers of The Law. The IVP  Background To The New Testament agrees with Christ, “ his point is that they should have learned justice, mercy and covenant faithfulness first “(9:13; 12:7 Keener, C. S., & InterVarsity Press. (1993). The IVP Bible background commentary : New Testament (Mt 23:23). Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press.”     

THE TITHE RE-DEFINED AGAIN!

When was the last time the tithes and offerings were brought from The Stockstills' Storehouse and Sent To God? According to Scripture it should be burnt to send up in smoke! In fact, when has The Stockstill followed ANY OF GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS ON how to consume the tithes, offerigs, sacrifices?

As noted in the first post on Bethany’s version of the tithe, they’ve redefined it to mean ONLY MONEY given weekly and/or monthy. Yet have neglected on what God’s words says about who enjoys the tithes. It’s not the Priest alone! Again, for an exegetical study on the tithe and it’s abuse by televangelist like Joel, read the informative study by Russel Earl Kelley(PhD) at http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/     

A final reminder and confirmation that Christ was NOT TEACHING his disciples to neglect Justic, Mercy, and Faith:     

  Warnings About Experts in the Law(NET VERSION, GOSPEL OF MARK)     

  ^12:38 In his teaching Jesus also said, “Watch out for the experts in the law. They like walking around in long robes and elaborate greetings in the marketplaces, ^12:39 and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. ^12:40 They devour widows’ property, and as a show make long prayers. These men will receive a more severe punishment.”     

  ^12:41 Then he sat down opposite the offering box, and watched the crowd putting coins into it. Many rich people were throwing in large amounts. ^12:42 And A POOR WIDOW CAME and put in two small copper coins, worth less than a penny. ^12:43 He called his disciples and said to them, “I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the offering box than all the others. ^12:44 For they all gave out of their wealth. But she, out of her poverty, put in what she had to live on, everything she had.”

   

  

      

Christ is NOT CONGRATULATING THE PHARISEES and LAWYERS for oppressing the poor widow! Christ forewarns his disciples how the Pharisees and Lawyers oppress the poor(Mk.12:38). The term “experts of the law” represented the leaders who were suppose to interpret God’s Word for the people. Yet, out of their greed like JOEL STOCKSTILL “THEY DEVOUR…(v.40)”     

      

Joel forgot the advice Paul gave to the Overseers of The Church,i.e., it’s better to give than receive. These words weren’t addressed to the congregation, THEY WERE TO THE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH!     

^Acts20:28 Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers,to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son. ^20:29 I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. ^20:30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them. ^20:31 Therefore be alert, remembering that night and day for three years I did not stop warning each one of you with tears.     

 ^20:32 And now I entrust you to God and to the message of his grace. This message is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. ^20:33 I have desired no one’s silver or gold or clothing. ^20:34 You yourselves know that these hands of mine provided for my needs and the needs of those who were with me. ^20:35 By all these things, I have shown you that by working in this way we must help the weak, and remember the words of the Lord Jesus that he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”    

       

I understand that many of my brothers and sisters are unable to afford the commentaries and other works by the translators who produced our english bible. So I’ll add one more for your benefit to motivate you to conduct your own research:     

 23:23 “you tithe mint and dill and cummin”     

“NT believers must be careful of turning Christianity into a new legal performance oriented code (Christian Talmud). Their desire to be pleasing to God causes them to try to find guidelines for every area of life. However, theologically it is dangerous to pull old covenant rules which are not reaffirmed in the NT and make them dogmatic criteria especially when they are claimed to be causes or promises of prosperity!     

In their legalism, they counted even the smallest spices so as to give precisely ten percent to God, but they neglected justice, love, and fidelity. The New Testament does not speak of tithing except here. The heart of New Testament giving is not found in a percentage (cf. II Cor. 8–9)! Utley, R. J. D. (2000). Vol. Volume 9: The First Christian Primer: Matthew. Study Guide Commentary Series. Marshall, Texas: Bible Lessons International.     

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Joel’s Tithe And Abuse of Authority Thursday, Dec 10 2009

I PRAY THAT YOUR DEDICATION IS NOT TO THE COERCION TACTICS OF MAN BUT TO SOLA SCRIPTURA  AND ITS AUTHOR!!

 

Joel's Version Of Jesus Has Once Again Congratulated Him On Perverting The Scriptures And Coercing Christians Out Of Their Money!

 

  BEFORE YOU OVER-BLESS YOUR FAMILY, BLESS MINE….

  Well, it’s that time of the year again at Bethany. The time when people start focusing on blessing their children with gifts, spending extra on big Family Meals, traveling in and out of state for re-unions, donating to charities, and for the unfortunate paying those high utitily heating bills. The Stockstills, Joel in particular, has presented another sermon on tithing just in case folks dare not bless his family more and before they start re-directing their 10%. See Here, “The Test”, Joel Stockstill’s Sermon

DON’T QUESTION ME ABOUT YOUR TITHES….

WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU QUESTION JOEL RIGHT? REMEMBER HIS BRAGGING ABOUT A BEATING DOWN SOMEONE IN CHURCH! SO....TAKE HIS ADVICE LITERALLY, DON'T QUESTION HIM! http://225br.wordpress.com/joel-almost-beatdown-during-service/

One of the most disturbing points of  Joel’s sermon comes at the minute marks (14:28-15:22) where He instructs the Tithers to give without holding ministers accountable?! You will not find a Church with intergrity who will agree with that! That is a red flag that your money is being misappropriated and abused for personal-enrichment. Any NON-PROFIT Organization(churches, charities, hospitals, etc.) will and DOES PROVIDE their donors with:

1. HOW MUCH WAS COLLECTED
2. HOW THE DONATIONS WERE DISTRIBUTED
3. THE COST SPENT ON TRIPS,  DINNERS, PLANE TRIPS, HOTELS
4. PASTORS’ SALARIES
5. UTILITIES

 

Our historical civil-rights churches practice this type of honesty and  not the DOUBLE-STANDARD that Joel’s predominately Black Congregation submits to.  Joel’s only defense, which he provides no biblcal reference for, is that

“(14:10-14:47)…THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH WILL GIVE AN ACCOUNTING TO GOD FOR THEIR STEWARDSHIP.”

 

 

 ***WARNING****AGAIN, TAKE JOEL’S COMMANDMENT NOT TO QUESTION HIM LITERALLY. HE ALREADY BRAGGED ABOUT HAVING BIG MIKE BEAT DOWN A BROTHER IN CHURCH(CLICK HERE). IF YOU’RE NEW, YOU MUST REALIZE THE CONGREGATION SEES HIM AS A BIBLICAL PROPHET WHO IS NOT TO BE QUESTIONED OR APPROACHED WITH CONCERNS. *******WARNING**********

 

 

JUST TRUST ME, I HAVE MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS:

He goes on to give his just-trust-me promise that he stays up at night trying be honest in his spending. IF HE WAS THAT WORRIED, WHY NOT SIMPLY(like other churches) PRODUCE A BREAKDOWN AS NOTED ABOVE(1.-5).  I remember attending the HEALING PLACE Church near Blue Bayou and in the main entrance they had A FULL COLORED BROCHURE ON ALL THEIR COLLECTIONS AND A PIE CHART on how it was distributed.

They don’t oppress AND dominate their congregation with “Do As I Say Without Holding Me Accountable“. In their honesty, they publicly published their total financial contributions and distributions. The shocking thing, it was not isolated for MEMBERS ONLY, it was in the main entrance FOR ANYONE TO READ and even had a way to contact someone if you had CONCERNS!!  In contrast Joel States:

 

Joel, God's Untouchable Prophet??!!

“But whether or not THE MONEY IS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET OR NOT, should have nothing to do with our willingness to be obedient to the commandment of God(15:11-15:22)

 

A GOOD STEWARD DOESN’T INVEST BLINDLY:

WOW….Joel told his congregation whether he chooses to flush the money “…DOWN THE TOILET OR NOT” should not prevent them from obeying God’s commandments on giving him 10% of their paychecks. Ironically, that’s just what’s happending to their money! Joel says they SHOULD OBEY God’s commandments BUT he has another standard. Why doesn’t Joel let the congregation be accountable to God like he does?

Joel has contradicted his own sermon in a mere 15 minutes. He used the Bible to coerce 10%  out of the majority black congregation but THEN ABANDON’S THE BIBLE AND CLAIMS HE’S NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THEM, ONLY GOD!!!  Since Joel knows that to be untrue he can not find a Scripture to back up his Give-Blindly commandment. So, he tells a  tale about correcting someone for challenging their preacher.

Obviously, this is a TOTAL CONTRADICTION IN BEING A GOOD STEWARD. A Good Steward knows how his donations are being used and ensure that He/She is not contributing to a deliquency. THERE’S THAT DOUBLE-STANDARD AGAIN,  Do as I say…..not as I do! If God sees us contributing to a ministry that claims to be UNTOUCHABLE PROPHETS and are abusing donations, that’s a TOTAL CONTRADICTION in good stewardship. Joel make up your mind…be a good steward or not? If we are called to be good stewards, your give-blindly sermon shows the congregations needs to stop!!

 

THE TITHER ENJOYS PART OF THAT TITHE GIVEN

Joel’s sermon from the start heads in the wrong direction because he re-defined the biblical word.  The tithe was NEVER MONEY but produce for the Levitcal Priesthood’s sacrificial system where these offereings were enjoyed by the tither, his family, the orphan, and God. It should be noted the biblical definition of “giving to God” was SENDING THE TITHE/OFFERING/SACRIFICE UP IN SMOKE VIA FIRE. That’s right….it was consumed as an aroma into the heavens. It was the crooked Priests who kept the tithe for themselves instead of consuming it with fire to God. So Joel if you want to use bible-words then ensure you use bible-definitions. The words alone are just the SKIN OF TRUTH that Joel FILLS WITH LIES.

 

  14:22 You must be certain to tithe28 all the produce of your seed that comes from the field year after year.

 14:23 In the presence of the Lord your God YOU MUST EAT FROM THE TITHE of your grain, your new wine,29 your olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the place he chooses to locate his name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

14:24 When he30 blesses you, if the31 place where he chooses to locate his name is distant, 14:25 you may convert the tithe into money, secure the money,32 and travel to the place the Lord your God chooses for himself.

14:26 ThenYOU MAY SPEND THE MONEY HOWEVER YOU WISH for cattle, sheep, wine, beer, or whatever you desire. YOU AND YOUR HOUSEHOLD MAY EAT THERE in the presence of the Lord your God and enjoy it.

 14:27 As for the Levites in your villages, you must not ignore them, for they have no allotment or inheritance along with you. 14:28 At the end of every three years you must bring all the tithe of your produce, in that very year, and you must store it up in your villages.

14:29 Then the Levites (because they have no allotment or inheritance with you), the resident foreigners, the orphans, and the widows of your villages may come and eat their fill so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work you do.

 28 28 tn The Hebrew text uses the infinitive absolute for emphasis, indicated in the translation by the words “be certain.” 29 29 tn This refers to wine in the early stages of fermentation. In its later stages it becomes wine (יַיִן, yayin) in its mature sense. 30 30 tn Heb “the Lord your God.” See note on “He” in 14:2. 31 31 tn The Hebrew text includes “way is so far from you that you are unable to carry it because the.” These words have not been included in the translation for stylistic reasons, because they are redundant. 32 32 tn Heb “bind the silver in your hand.” Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Dt 14:22-29). Biblical Studies Press.

So, we see from Scripture that the produce of the land NOT MONEY was to STORED UP. It was to help the Temple Priesthood in their daily blood sacrifices and burnt offerings….of which the tither also got to consume with his family, along with the orphans and widows. THEIR TITHES WERE NOT GIVEN SOLEY TO THE PRIESTHOOD BUT (((((((SHARED))))))) AND (((((((CONSUMED))))))). God did not allow the priest to convert the TITHES into MONEY! That defeats the whole purpose of the Communion meals! Only Joel wants money handed over without accountability!

Even the Apostle Paul identifies those who participate in the consumption of the Promised Land Produce at the Levitical Altar:

^10:18 Look at the people of Israel.¹² Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners in the altar?

^{12 12} tn Grk “Israel according to (the) flesh.”

 Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (1 Co 10:18). Biblical Studies Press.

 

 

JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IS NOT YOUR EXAMPLE(APPEALING TO HUMAN GREED):

Joel then goes on to  tesify that John B. Rockefeller:

11:08-11:12 MINUTES Joel testified that John B. Rockefeller “said he began by tithing on a $1.50 a week”.

First, John Rockefeller is not our example. Even so, John Rockefeller would  not  invest bad/blind investments. He was a very good researcher. In the days of John Rockefeller, churches made known their collections and distributions. Do you really think John Rockefeller would give to A CHURCH that condemned the congregation for holding their clergy’s stewardship accountable?! Regardless, John Rockefeller is not our example, this is simply an appeal-to-emotion(human greed for money) and not Scripture.

The reason why the naive are laughing and saying their Amens! is because Joel throws in comedy at the right moment, i.e., before anyone thinks about the shocking statement he just made. It’s the same way trainers dominate their animals. If the trainer gives a stern commandment to the animal it will bite back. However, if he creates a diversion of the mind at just the right moment, the animal will forget and submit to instruction. That’s just how Joel treats his congregation. Before they can think about his unbiblical traditions, he cracks a joke and the AMENS and HALLELUJAHS come out the naive congregation who is seeking entertainment over education.

 

P.S. JOEL, Abraham didn’t tithe his OWN PROPERTY, he ONLY tithed spoils from war ONE TIME not weekly or monthly or annually.

 

FOR FURTHER STUDY:

THE BIBLICAL TITHE, FULL EXEGESIS BY RUSSELL EARL KELLEY, PhD

 

 

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Pt.2-Larry Stockstill’s White Power and Black Remnant Friday, Nov 13 2009

Larry says he is confident in these racist organizations labled "christian". When did preserving racist radio become an action for Christians? Why are these organizations more interested in fighting for the racist views of Rush Limbaugh RATHER THAN the civil-rights of the oppressed? WHY DO THE BLACKS AT BETHANY CONTINUE TO CALL LARRY "AN ANNOINTED PROPHET"?

Thus far we have seen Bethany and The Stockstill’s endorsement of two “Conservative” groups that have referred to Pres. Obama with the universal racial insult of “MONKEY” and have aligned himself with Christians who have ties to well known racist/racist groups(SEE PART ONE). In part two, I wanted to elaborate on The Christian Coalitions fight to save racist talk show hosts. Why would Larry Stockstill continue to give his support(Link To Endorsement) and tell his black congregation that The Christian Coalition is Family Friendly? In Larry’s own words:

“Feel confident going to these family-friendly links for information and updates on what is happening in the world today.”

This Is How Larry's Predominately White Male Christian Action Groups Have Describe Our FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN President

 Let’s begin with an interview between Bill O’Reilly and Sen. John McCain. Bill O’Reilly of Fox News informs Sen. John McCain that the left is trying to “…change the COMPLEXION of America(0:00-0:003)”. In the context of two white males speaking should we conclude that these white males are in fear that minorities are trying to take over the U.S.A.? That’s not only a logical conclusion BUT John McCain replies, “No you’re right(0:04-0:05)” and then the video goes to mexicans toiling in the fields.

"they're trying to destroy the WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE infrastructure"

Bill O’Reilly goes on to inform Sen McCain “Do you realize what the N.Y. Times want….the far left want, they want to break down THE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE INFRASTRUCTURE which you’re apart of and so am I AND THEY WANT TO BRING IN MILLIONS OF FOREIGN nationals to BREAK DOWN THE STRUCTURE THAT (((WE))) have(0:24-0:58) Sen. McCain agrees but disagrees with “Well….we need farm workers”.  John McCain is attempting to make Mexicans nothing more than indentured servants. He wants Mexicans “temporary workers” not citizens. Why? as both of these scared white males confessed, “THEY WANT TO BREAK DOWN THE WHITE MALE CHRISTIAN INFRASCTRUCTURE WE HAVE”. How can the blacks at Bethany, who’s ancestors were treated in this degrading way, lock arms with these racists??!! Are they ashamed of their ancestors’ fight for Civil Rights?

 

Larry, You want blacks to save this type of talk??!!  Why would a Church want to save paranoid white males who feel threatened that the white Christian complexion is changing?! Didn’t we hear enough of “…the niggers are going to take over if Obama wins, this is a Christian nation” during the campaigns last year! CLICK HERE FOR THE TELEVISED INTERVIEW.  Notice he’s not speaking for the “Christian Infrastructure” but the “WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE INFRASTRUCTURE”. They’re not interested in the black Christian or the WHOLE CHRISTIAN INFRASTRUCTURE!

 

 

The next Talk Show Larry’s Christian Coalition is trying to save is RUSH LIMBAUGH.

Larry Why Continue To Endorse Predominately White Christian Male Infrastructures When Your Congregation Is Predominately Black In Baker?

 

Rush Limbaugh carries the paranoid WHITE MALE INFRASTRUCTURE DEMOLITION THEORY on a recorded airing on his Talk Show(1:19-1:37),  hurry and view this because just as The Stockstills deleted Joel’s initial comments on Pres. Obama, Rush Limbaugh’s attorney’s have been removing his statement from the W.W.W. It continues to pop up elsewhere when deleted. If my link is no longer available, let me know, I’ll find it again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALSJE0QsEs&feature=player_embedded (1:19-1:37).

 

“IN OBAMA’S AMERICA WHITE KIDS ARE GETTING BEAT UP ON SCHOOL BUSES NOW!  YOU PUT YOUR KIDS ON A SCHOOL BUS YOU EXPECT SAFETY BUT IN AN OBAMA’S AMERICA THE WHITE KIDS NOW GET BEAT UP WITH THE BLACK KIDS CHEERING, ‘YEEEAAH RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, AND OF COURSE THEY’RE GOING TO SAY HE DESERVED IT, HE WAS BORN A RACIST……HE’S WHITE!(Rush Limbaugh) ”

 

Rush Limbaugh was also famous for stating on ESPN that Donovan McNabb’s success was not due to hard work and that McNabb(quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles) was “overrated” because of the liberal media wanting to see a black be successful. Now keep in mind, McNabb was a three time Pro-Bowl qualifier. You get to the pro-bowl by hard work. Well, ESPN fired Rush Limbaugh and apologised for Rush’s racial insult. In McNabb’s  own words:

 

It's sad that you've got to go to skin color. I thought we were through with that whole deal," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1627887

Rush Limbaugh while at The (C)onservative (P)olitcal (A)action (C)onference stated that God “…JUST THINKS HE’S RUSH LIMBAUGH”. Why would the Christian Coalition fight for a talk show that makes comments degrading our God like this?! Why would Larry Stockstill continue to feel confident about the Christian Coalition.

The above declaration by Rush Limbaugh was during a joke(3:15) about the death of CNN’s anchor, Larry King. Rush stated that Larry King met St. Peter at the pearly gates and was given a tour of heaven. According to Rush’s joke, Larry King asked “Is Rush Limbaugh In There?”. After ensuring Larry King that Rush hasn’t made it to heaven yet, they both enter for the guided tour.

Upon approaching this “angelic(3:50)” throne with the title “RUSH LIMBAUGH”. Larry King supposedly asks St. Peter, “I thought you said Rush Limbaugh wansn’t here(3:56)??!!”.  According to Rush, St. Peter replies “He’s not this is God’s room, He(G0d) just thinks He’s Rush Limbaugh(3:59-4:02).  Shame on The Christian Coalition and Larry Stockstill for their fight to save this Anti-God talk!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtvtBGWgBc

Finally, The Christian Coalitions fight is to save SEAN HANNITY of once again…..FOX NEWS CHANNEL. Yes, the same one Joel Stockstill quoted when he endorsed Sarah Palin. 

This Fox News Channel reporter Was Caught In A Lie When He Wanted To Convince America That The Health Care Protesters In D.C. Were A Larger Group Than What It Really Was! So He Deceitfully Used Footage From Another Gather Yet Claimed This Was Recent Footage. Upon Being Caught In His Lie and Dishonest Reporting, He Had No Choice But Admission and Apology, http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hannity-crowd13-2009nov13,0,157713.story?track=rss

Sean Hannity who claims to be a Roman Catholic is at odds with his own church. Sean’s Church has labled him a hypocrite.  Sean only gives The Priest two options (abortion or birth control) the priests says there is a third option “Preach The Good News“, LOL. The Priest also rightly stated that “(3:16-3:21) Sixty-Percent of women are going into abortion clinics because their birth control failed“.

Factcheck.org is constantly busting Sean Hannity for his dishonest news coverage. The most famous was Sean Hannity continuation of a statement Pres. Obama supposedly made that the U.S.A. is no longer a Christian Nation. Factcheck.org stated Pres. Obama’s real statement was we are not  “JUST” a Christian nation in explaining the melting pot of our Nation. Factcheck.org was quoted by Sen. John McCain to show his statement were true because they verified them, yet upon checking McCain was caught in several errors!

Finally, why would these dishonest and racist talk show hosts be supported by Larry’s Family Friendly  Christian Action Groups?!!

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LARRY STOCKSTILL’S WHITE POWER AND HIS BLACK “REMNANT” Wednesday, Oct 14 2009

Larry Stockstill Says He Confidently Refers His Congregation To Organizations He Labled As Family Friendly!! FIRST, VERIFY FOR YOURSELF THEN READ. http://www.wlft.com/content.php?display=family-friendly-links Both of these organizations have a history of racism, yet Larry says nothing to warn his black remnant!

 

    Larry Stockstill head pastor at Bethany World Prayer Center endorses two so called “conservative” groups which associated Pres. Obama’s administration with “MONKEYS” and have been successfully sued for discriminating against black employees. Larry Stockstill says he feels “CONFIDENT” about recomending these racist groups. WHY HASN’T THERE BEEN A PUBLIC REBUKE IN THEIR BLOGS ABOUT THESE RACIST STATMENTS? INSTEAD LARRY SPEAKS AT THESE EVENTS!!

     Why? Because Larry Stockstill is one of their “WATCHMEN ON THE WALL” (search his name on their site and watch how many results come back with his attendance!! Again, before they remove these links, verify them for yourelf and then come back to read. The link is below this picturet:

HOW DOES OVADYAH UNCOVER THESE HIDDEN THINGS!! WHERE IS CHICKEN GEORGE?! OVADYAH, CAN YOU JUST STOP AND PRAY LIKE MY GOOD BLACK STOCKSTILLIANS? I'M THE WATCHMAN, I'M THE WATCHMAN...NOT OVADYAH!! I'M ANNOINTED, I'M ANNOINTED!! STOP IT!!

http://www.wlft.com/content.php?display=family-friendly-links

 

1.) The Family Research Council:

1. The FRC’s current President, Tony Perkins, was fined as a campaign manager for Woody Jenkins in 1996 by The Federal Goverment for purchasing Former Grand Wizard David Duke’s K.K.K. Mailing list of voters and not reporting it.
   http://www.lsureveille.com/opinion/woody-jenkins-espouses-republican-party-virtues-of-bigotry-1.762137
2. The FRC’s current president, TONY PERKINS, also spoke at the Conservative Citizens Council(white supremacist group) in 2001.
   http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Perkins_(politician)?wasRedirected=true
3. The FRC’s current President, Tony Perkins, also invited a Republican Senator Roy Blunt (Missouri) to their Sunday dinner who referred to Pres. Obama’s adminstration as “MONKEYS”.
5. This same Family Research Council allowed a vendor to present our President Obama on a waffle box reminiscent of Aunt Jamima Waffle Box at their Voter’s Value Summit. It wasn’t until this racism was immediately released to the Media, the Family Research Council closed down that booth. Their excuse was that they had no idea what these vendors was going to sell, EVENTHOUGH THESE VENDORS HAD TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE F.R.C. Unlike LARRY STOCKSTILL, Elizabeth Hassleback(Christian) spoke out publicly on NATIONAL T.V.(you go girl!!!) Click Here For Elizabeth Hassleback’s National Rebuke now on YOUTUBE.
6. http://www.bet.com/News/NewsArticlePoliticsAuntJemimaObamaMix. B.E.T.’s full story                                                            

1. This same Tony Perkins, who Larry Stockstill endorses, is from Larry’s neighborhood Baker, La. In fact, a disciple praised Larry in his blog:
2. “We are thankful for LOCAL MEN LIKE YOU, Joel, and TONY PERKINS”.
   http://larrystockstill.com/?p=51
3. In May, 2009 Larry Stockstill spoke at Tony Perkins’ conference. I wonder if David Dukes’ list of voters were attending or did they tell more MONKEY jokes. WHY DIDN’T BETHANY IMMEDIATELY AND PUBLICLY DENOUNCE THESE STATEMENTS??!! Instead Larry Stockstill CONTINUES TO ENDORSE THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND FELLOWSHIP WITH THEM!!

http://www.christiannewswire.com/index.php?module=releases&task=view&releaseID=10406

 

 

II.)THE CHRISTIAN COALITION

The Christian Coalition is fighting to save the racist Rush Limbaugh and Fox News

     The CHRISTIAN COALITION also used the derogatory and racist description of “MONKEY” against Pres. Obama AND HIS supporters. They posted an article on their site called “OBAMA’S LEGION OF FLYING MONKEYS“. The President’s white supporter ,Jon Stewart’s description was lightened to a “SILVER BACK BABOON” in contrast to their general description of a flying-monkey.

     Pres. Obama was described as the “KING” of the “MONKEYS“. However Larry’s Christian Coalition is fighting to keep the racists Glenn Beck of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh on air??!! http://www.cc.org/blog/obama039s_legion_flying_monkey039s_hollywood

These Christians Labled Pres. Obama As

     This same Pastor Larry volunteered himself to join Gov. Foster as his personal Pastor as everyone else sought to shun him. Gov. Foster during his campaign gave Former Grand Wizard David Duke $150,000.00 for his KKK mailing list of registered voters. Qualified voter list can be purchased for a few hundred dollars from the Registrar!! Foster gave Duke 20x’s the amount! WHY LARRY STOCKSTILLS’ “CHRISTIAN” BRETHREN CONSTANTLY PURCHASING K.K.K. VOTERS’ LIST??!!
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=327

 

David Duke May Have Failed In Getting Into Office But Larry's Associates Are Constantly Using His Resources. The Hoods Have Been Replaced By Suits

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/22/us/a-dealing-with-david-duke-haunts-louisiana-governor.html

This same Christian Coalition is known for giving black politicians an “F” grade and their white politicians “A” and “B”.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200109/ai_n9000771/

At the sametime the above DOUBLE STANDARD WAS BEING APPLIED, Black employees were suing The Christian Coalition that Larry Stockstill endorses. The Christian Coalition retaliated against their black employees by making them enter through the back door only. A Federal Judge, Judge RICARDO M. URBINA, had to step in and demand The C.C. Stop their retaliations.
(LEE vs. CHRISTIAN COALITION of AMERICA Inc.)

JOEL CARL HUNTER RESIGNED as President of The Christian Coalition due to differences with the majority of it’s members. Mr. Hunter suggested the C.C. fight equally for the Civil Rights of poor people(who are mainly Black People), BUT THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WAS NOT INTERESTED in that, only battling homosexuals. Thus Mr. Hunter IMMEDIATELY RESIGNED!!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Hunter

PASTOR STEPS DOWN BECAUSE OF DISAGREEMENT WITH THE CHRISTIAN COALITION’S AGENDA(N.Y. Times)

The sad thing Baton Rouge, Larry’s congregation is majority black!!LOL!!! If you visit the sites of these racist organizations, Larry uses the EXACT SAME rhetoric on his blog! While other Christians “SPEAK OUT” and “DISASSOCIATE”, Larry Stockstills happily joins and remains SILENT. Again, so does Larry’s Black “Remnant”. That’s why they stayed out of Jena and Plaquemine’s closing of Black Schools and Mayor Kip Holden’s Night Out On Crime(held at Miracle Place Chrurch in Baker).

RECOMENDED LINK ABOUT MODERN DAY CULTS LIKE BETHANY: http://blog.dkforeman.com/

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**PROSPERITY GOSPEL FACTS** Wednesday, Sep 30 2009

PROSPERITY GOSPEL FACTS

Prosperity Gospel Believers also have the biggest drop out rates, lowest education, lowest incomes. I'M NOT SUPRISED. The poor are always victims to messages/commercials about get-rich-schemes

I came across a very interesting article on the Prosperity Gospel and the facts presented. These televangelist, like The Stockstills, get rich while their congregations either remain on an income plateau or mire in poverty because they gave too much and the church abandoned them once they in turn needed help. So without aid they are now underwater. Furthermore, the education level of most of the adherents are below average which is the root of their Biblical-Illiteracy which in turn caused them to believe the eisegesis.

I’ll let the original author speak for himself.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/religionandtheology/1374/the_ponzi_prosperity_gospel

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LARRY THE LYING $TOCK$TILL PT.3 Monday, Sep 28 2009

Larry Stockstill continues to have all the right words but all the wrong practice. As more and more people are fleeing from his authority and revealing the scams and coercion tactics of Bethany, he claims to have spoken with a represenative from the Billy Graham Ministry about their success. Lying Larry claims Bethany has ALWAYS followed a particular rule of not speaking against other ministries:

Finally, they would never criticize other leaders from the pulpit. Using the pulpit to elbow past your competitors is not the will of God.

That is EXACTLY what we are doing in the “Remnant” movement for pastors. Thousands of pastors are reading that book and resetting their values. It’s good to know that Billy Graham did that exact thing 60 years ago and is still going strong. I believe God will do it again for the new generation!(Sunday, July 19th, 2009 at 6:23 am)

The first and obvious thing we see is the continue promotion of his book “Remnant” not God’s book, the Bible(which is free) but Larry’s Book which he claims is getting these insufficient pastors to finally start “…RESETTING THEIR VALUES”. Lying Larry needs to start with his own house before he attempts to straighten out “THOUSANDS OF PASTORS….”. Both Larry and Joel have provided false prophecies and abuse of the Scriptures to steal money from naive christians.

According to his CBS Interview, Osteen's service is an uninhibited celebration that's part rock concert, part spectacular. THERE ARE NO CROSSES, NO RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS WHATSOEVER. It's all taped and broadcast around the world. His service is seen in 100 foreign countries and is the most watched religious broadcast in America.(Click Here For entire article by CBS News)

Larry made the claim that Bethany “…WOULD NEVER CRITICIZE OTHER LEADERS FROM THE PULPIT.”. However, Joel Stockstill just condemned JOEL OSTEEN’S Church. Anyone familiar with Joel Osteen’s numerous interviews know that their Church is very liberal and does not display crosses or any religious relics or talk about sin, they only “motivate” people AND JOEL CONTRADICTS LARRY BY STATING:

“…when I hear PREACHERS say things like “our church doesn’t have a cross or anything like that in it” as a statement of relevance and persuasion to attend I GET DISGUSTED!(Posted Aug.29,2009. 11:19am)”

“No longer do LEADERS allow the gifts of the Spirit to operate in the gathering of believers on Sunday morning for fear of making some poor visitor uneasy. (most have no need to disallow because they couldn’t move in the gifts if their life depended on it!(Posted Aug.29, 2009, 11:19am)”

Joel’s criticizing The Osteens because they support Pres. Barack Obama while Joel promoted Sarah Palin/McCain during the campaign. Larry King’s interview has The Osteens stating that Pres. Obama “…DOING A GREAT JOB, LOVES THE LORD, I BELIEVE HE IS A CHRSTIAN“. Joel has yet to make any respectful statement(click here for entire interview with Osteens and Larry Kings):

“Larry King: Since you were last on, we have sworn in our first African-American president. What are your impressions [of Barack Obama]?

Joel Osteen: Well, I think he’s doing a great job. I’m impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I’ve been really impressed. In fact, I’ve been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she’s done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don’t know his religion, but to most of them it don’t matter. Should it matter?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it’s important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I’m making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. … I believe he is a Christian.”

Instead Joel continues the paranoid statements made by white christians that Pres. Obama is the an agent of the Anti-Christ. This statement has never been made from Bethany until an African-American took office:

“Yes, there is a spirit of anti-Christ that would try to take over our govt and nation, but yet there is still a remnant of righteous men and women who have been placed there strategically by the Holy Spirit.(Click Here)”

Question to those who deify the Stockstills. Who’s the liar? Larry or Joel? THEY JEALOUSY IS ELBOWING PAST THE COMPETITION!! Bethany claims ony 10,000 members and national televised airing while Joel Osteen’s Church has 30,000 and international airing. But Bethany would never speak against another leader, LOL. The Stockstills are annointed, the problem is they’ve used dirty oil. As “Chris P.” commented in the blog “Joel Condemns Michael Jackson”:

“Ummm…Ovadyah you’re wasting your time with “The Remnant’ LOL,

The blacks you see that stayed behind at Bethany are “sell-outs”. The Stockstills could crap in their lap and tell em it’s an annointing and they will believe it. There’s no amount of proof that will open their eyes, I’ve been there. They use your state as a sinner against you anytime you speak against their prophet “status”.

Furthermore, look at the black leaders that remained. They have no soul!! They didn’t attend a (H)istorically (B)lack (C)ollege like Southern University, they don’t hang around blacks, they don’t know black slang, they don’t use black dialect, and they don’t even listen to black gospel music. That is how they were recruited by The Stockstills, they(The Stockstills) saw these negroes at L.S.U. and loved their “good-ole boy” demeanor and that will be the closest thing to a black minister.

I say all of that to say this. I understand your expose’ but blacks like the above will refuse to even look this way because the Stockstills have convinced them that God will punish any contesting. So, those of us who left enjoy your stance but the remnant that was bullied into staying, WILL STAY NO MATTER WHAT. You’re wasting your time trying to get them to think apart from what the Stockstills are telling them.

Chris P.
Baker,La.

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