Lil Duckie

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O.K.

according to them if you claim to be a prophet you don’t have to obey god just preach that other have to tithe and obey god.

———OVADYAH RESPONDS————————That’s about right. Joel is considered a prophet ONLY because he states something true. However, he preaches against golf course tempers as too violent YET brags about how good G.I. Joe movie was, claims God spoke to him that AMY would not pass away BUT SHE DID, applied a double standard during the elections which the bible speaks of one standard for everyone. YET THOSE SHARE-CROPPERS AT BETHANY continue to call Joel a prophet and submit to his authority. Where did a TRUE PROPHET practice this type of hypocrisy?

They didn’t, people like Joel were called FALSE PROPHETS. Just because the Devil tells the truth don’t make him a true prophet.

——————–OVADYAH RESPONDS——————-First Denis, what is it with you Stockstillians that you guys simply give opinion and not facts with supporting evidence. What SPECIFICALLY did I get wrong? Something specific.

Second, this has a lot to do with blacks:
1.) Why didn’t Joel Stockstill condemn MUTEMATH(white) LIKE HE DID TO M.J.(BLACK).

2.) Why the doulbe-standard? Why AGAIN, did he conceal PALIN’s(WHITE) shortcomings BUT EXPOSED Pres. Obama’s(BLACK)?

3.)Why is it o.k. for Joel/Larry to support WHITE CHRISTIAN POLITICAL organizations that called our BLACK President BY THE UNIVERSAL RACIST INSULT OF MONKEY but not for blacks(Like me) to expose Joel’s hypocrisy without being threatened with a curse?

4.)Why is it o.k. for Joel/Larry(white) to preach for their majority (BLACKS) to make financial sacrifices yet the Stockstills constantly travel the world, purchase gifts, attend the best universities and their kids like Melissa travel over 6times to Europe in one year?

This is just off the top of my head and not counting the constant double-standard Bethany preaches. The all White Band Mutemath that Joel praised sued their record company for trying to potray them as “Christian”. Mutemath is that disgusted with Christ, yet Joel still praises them and condemns M.J.?! And you’re telling me that’s NOT A DOUBLE STANDARD?!

Joel and Larry Stockstill claim to be Biblical Prophets yet they were wrong that Amy would not pass and overcome her illness. YET she passed. THAT MAKES THEM FALSE PROPHETS! The Bible condemns them to DEATH BY STONING for making God look like a liar. So ACCORDING TO YOUR STANDARD, Joel is headed to the SAME HELL he condemned M.J. to for not repenting.

But it’s obvious you don’t believe Joel will go to hell because you use the “White Standard” for his unrepentant sins and give M.J. the “Black Standard” of no mercy. Why do you apply THE SAME STANDARD to Joel? Unlike you God doesn’t use double-standards Joel will be judge way he judged.

So you Stockstillians start naming specifics and use ONE STANDARD not SEGREGATION in God’s Court.

220duckie

——Hey Joel’s Duckie,

Your second set of comments was a debate about speaking in tongues and you went way beyone the topic at hand. I responded in an email back that if you want to debate how Bethany World Prayer Center babbles and call it “tongues” then you should debate that in its proper arena. That can be found at http://WWW.CARM.ORG not on a post about Michael Jackson. Context LiL Duckie, Context.

HOWEVER LiL Duckie, if you want to be an OFFICIAL REPRESENATIVE of Bethany’s Dogma, I can arrange a debate about your Rom 8:26 means to babble incoherently. Again, if you want to be there official spokesman for their ritual babblling based on Rom. 8:26, I can arrange it. This site is about the corrput priesthood of Bethany NOT A LIL DUCKIE. Remember, Bethany will hold you responsible for any misrepresentations so check with them about Rom.8:26 before you claim they also use it as a proof text.

—-Ovadyah responds—–Joel is very selective in what he “exposes”. He still has yet to mention Sarah Palin’s unwed daughter’s pregnancy or John McCain’s agreement with Bill O’Reilly that the left is trying to change the “complexion” of the white male christian infrastructure during his interview on Fox. Unlike us, we state that we don’t agree with everything Pres. Obama does but you won’t find their prophet being that honest.

My boy who is an employee their informed me that Joel, like Palin in her new book, is once again blaming the victims in his latest sermon on tithing. Even during these hard times, he’s asking for more money. He even stated on the video DON’T WORRY ABOUT WHAT PASTOR IS SPENDING IT ON, LoL!! And they black folks in the congregation were shouting “Amen Pastor, Amen”. They make us look so ignorant in the eyes of those searching for salvation.

—–I’M NOT SUPRISED THAT KIM CLEMENT IS HOPING ON THE OBAMA TRAIN. I AGREE, WHEN HE THOUGHT SARAH PALIN WOULD WIN, HE CLAIMED SHE WOULD BE THE ONE, YET IT WAS THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT THAT STIRRED THINGS UP! IF YOU LOOK AT KIM IS LIKE THE PHONY STOCKSTILLS, WHATEVER IS POPULAR THEY HOP ON IT. IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME WHEN THEIR NUMBERS START GOING DOWN AND FINANCES DRAINING THAT BETHANY WILL SEDUCE BLACKS BACK BY PRAISING OUR PRES’.

The blacks you see at Bethany are “sell-outs”. The Stockstills could crap in their lap and tell em it’s an annointing and they will believe it. There’s no amount of proof that will open their eyes, I’ve been there. They use your state as a sinner against you anytime you speak against their prophet “status”.

Furthermore, look at the black leaders that remained. They have no soul!! They didn’t attend a (H)istorically (B)lack (C)ollege like Southern University, they don’t hang around blacks, they don’t know black slang, they don’t use black dialect, and they don’t even listen to black gospel music. That is how they were recruited by The Stockstills, they(The Stockstills) saw these negroes at L.S.U. and loved their “good-ole boy” demeanor and that will be the closest thing to a black minister.

I say all of that to say this. I understand your expose’ but blacks like the above will refuse to even look this way because the Stockstills have convinced them that God will punish any contesting. So, those of us who left enjoy your stance but the remnant that was bullied into staying, WILL STAY NO MATTER WHAT. You’re wasting your time trying to get them to think apart from what the Stockstills are telling them.

Chris P.
Baker,La.

Sir, I don’t know what happened with you at Bethany, but I assure that it is not a cult.
So where is being “Slain in the Spirit” in the Bible? Why only nutty televangelist like Benny Hinn practice it and their charismatic denominations adopt it? Where does the bible allow for everyone to babble at the same time and call it an orderly speaking in tongues? Why does Bethany’s Prophets have continued failed prophecies like Amy Stockstill being healed of her diseased body but is now rotting in the ground? Why does Larry Stockstill Coerce people into giving him money by telling them it’s cursed if they withold it when Paul states giving shouldn’t be done by such unbiblical scams? Why does Larry Stockstill scare people by telling them he had a vision of Judgement Day approaching and immediately promotes his book sale of “The Remnant” and goes on a week vacation in Northern and Southern Greece, yet judgment day is approaching very soon??!! These all are scare tactics that cults use to coercce people into submission and giving over and beyond in their pay checks. Next you wrote:

The things that you are posting on this page is just rude,disrespectful, and hurtful.

That’s my point EXACTLY!! Thanks for the confirmation!! All I did was apply your white leader’s standard BACK TO HIMSELF!! This has caused many of Joel’s worshippers to cry out in distress. You Stockstillians defended Joel when he applied the EXACT SAME STANDARD to M.J. but when it got applied to him you cry out “The things that you are posting on this page is just rude, disrespectful, and hurtful.”. That is not only a racist double standard BUT A SURE SIGN OF A CULT!! The leaders are above the law, while their recruits HAVE TO OBEY WITHOUT QUESTION. One person attempted to confront Joel’s hypocrisy and was met with VIOLENCE. Joel brags about the use of violence against anyone who contests him. He said Big-Mike gave the congregant a “BEAT DOWN”. That’s not funny, that’s violence!! Yet, I’m sure in your eyes it’s o.k., Joel is white and has that authority. Next you cried…

Why are you so concerned with what the Stockstills do? It they are who you think they are stay out of it and let God handle it. If they are not, you are in serious trouble buddy. I don’t want hear anything about your proven facts on the Stockstills. Why don’t you and your family stop worrying so much about them and make sure that your day to day walk with the Lord is straight. You obviously have too much time on your hands to dig up “proven facts” about the Stockstills.

Again, I used to rebuke those who contested The Stockstill’s claim that they were Prophets but thank God He woke me up and gave me a mission to rebuke such false prophets. A true prophet warns God’s people and sounds the alarm, he doesn’t stand by and condones corruption by being complacent.
Second, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!! Why are you so worried about me??!! Follow your own advice you hypocrite and “…stay out of it and let God handle it.”. But you can’t because you’ve been trained to apply TWO STANDARDS. One for blacks and one for whites. Blacks have to obey but whites can over-ride the rules. The negroes have to stay in line while the white rob and degrade them. If they contest Joel sends “BIG MIKE” out to give out of line Negroes a “Beatdown”. Next, you claimed:

And just for the record, PROPHET Joel did state in his first “Thriller?” blog that “unless there was a some supernatural intervention” Read more carefully next time, so when you post something about him again, it just may really be a proven fact.

Once again you fail to practice what you preach, LOL. But again….that’s the double standard. I ALREADY NOTED JOEL SLIPPED IN ONE DISCLAIMER among his post. However, if that clown admits he doesn’t know what happened, then JOEL NEEDS TO SHUT HIS MOUTH and say nothing!!

I applied the same standard to Amy Stockstill and you Stockstillians start crying and weeping that I’m the one that’s rude because only Joel can degrade with disclaimers, LOL. Y’all some clowns, for real!! What type of logic is that??!! I applied it to Amy Stockstill’s death by disease to prove just that point. Would it be logical to for ANYONE to say well I don’t know if Amy had divine intervention but I’ll send her to hell anyway. Amy Stockstill never spoke out against her husbands corrupt ministry so “without divine intervention” on her deathbed, I’ll send her to hell. I DON’T BELIEVE ANYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF, has the authority. My point was to show you it shouldn’t be TWO STANDARDS BUT ONE.

Answer me this. How come the leaders at Bethany don’t have to practice what they preach?

Dear Nir,

God bless and Stay Safe!

“well, first I think that you are way off base buddy“.

Since your basis of my references/research being “…way off base….” is not based on anything in particular but rather on your opinions, or as you admitted “…I think that you are way off base buddy“. I can only reply, “ummm, o.k.”. Next you contradicted:

“I see that you are frustrated for reasons that are upsetting. But you are way too flipping angry about this, and you have no respect for any authority, and show a complete lack of maturity”

Yes, you are correct in observing my frustrations are based on “…reasons that are upsetting“. Amen, this was definitely revealed to you through the Holy Spirit. Praise God!! However, you then contradict yourself by downlplaying the abuse by your Prophet “But you are way too flipping angry about this“.

You have successfully confused me by your contradiction. So what in particular am I “…way too flipping angry….” about? Details please.

Furthermore, your Prophet is not my prophet, so he has no “AUTHORITY” over me and my house, only YOURS. If you think Amy’s was totally healed based on Joel’s prophecy and authority, then I have news for you….SHE DIED FROM HER DISEASE. His claim went denied!!

Next, you defended your prophet by declaring before God and men:

“Joel is not a false prophet. He is man of God. And there is noting you can say that is going to change that.”

So again, you’re not citing anything in particular? You’re just showing that your more loyal to your Prophet Joel Stockstill than to The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Well, that’s your freedom. I don’t belong to such a cult. The biblical Prophets were 100% correct. They didn’t go around playing guessing games and twisting Scriptures to rob the poor as Larry Dean Stockstill does in his 20/20 Vision Plan(2Sam. 24:24) or Joel hearing from God that Amy would receive a “total healing”. Next, you too practiced your Prophet Joel Stockstill’s “authority” of rebuking others. However, like the death of his wife so will be the death of your cursing. I curse no man, I don’t have that authority, I bless those who curse me, Amen!

” I curse any bad things you could possibly say about him and his family, and furthermore his wife. You are offend over a man who is authentic, and you alone are judging him.”

Again, I’m commanded by my Prophet Christ Jesus to “Bless those who curse you”. If I submitted to your Prophet, I would have presented a better defense than mere opinions. I would have dealt with Joel’s failed prophecies and the contradiction reasons why he fled to West Palm Beach for shopping sprees but later claimed medical emergency. How can Joel be an “authentic” prophet of God when he prophesied his wife would receive and total healing AND DID NOT BUT DIED FROM DISEASE and is in the ground rotting? Next you concluded:

“Something you say is wring[sic]. No while i think that it may be out of line for anyone to judge MJ I think it is also wrong for you to be so tearing and rude to a man. Remove the plank from your eye!!!!”

Once again, what EXACTLY did I say was wrong? You claimed it was “something“. Those who deify their Prophet continue to write in with these baseless opinions and charges. The only person who attempted to logically prove me incorrect was Jordan Jopling of Bethany but even his reason was proven LIES and CONTRADICTED JOEL’S OWN STATMENTS. This is why he hasn’t responded.

If you think it is wrong “…for anyone to judge MJ….”. Why didn’t you immediately rebuke your Prophet for this unbiblical act?! That’s not respecting authority. You rightly identified it was “…out of line for ANYONE TO JUDGE MJ….”, yet you didn’t not respond to Joel’s article with the same rebuke you commanded me to observe.

Thanks to followers like you, Ovadyah’s blog is supported by your own admissions that his authority is “…out of line….” AND NOT FROM GOD. You yourself have help show he is not an authentic prophet. The only thing you’ve shown is that when he is “…out of line….” the black folks under him should without questioning (LIKE OTHER CULTS) respect this Prophet’s authority because if they doesn’t it shows a “complete lack of maturity“.

This is straight out of the KINGDOM OF THE CULTS!! Lord help us!! Your people have checked their brains in at the door.

In the Name of Christ Jesus, Joel and Larry Stockstill have no authority over me, AMEN!!