Larry Is Overseas Marketing His Book Tuesday, Mar 17 2009 

Peace and Grace In The Name Of Christ

Well, it seems when Larry Stockstill preaches, he’s still not practicing. When he calls on his congregation to cancel vacations and take on part time jobs to give more to his storage-house, he’s flying overseas to London and marketing another money maker. He’s overseas(Liverpool, England)  promoting his book “The Remnant” which is linked to his self-proclaimed status of a biblical prophet. Larry Stated that God has showed him a vision of Judgement Day that will be coming very very soon. Notice the only magazine that entertained this prophecy was the denomination that is the most corrupt, Charisma Magazine for the Charismatic/Pentecostal Denomination.

 

Association of Former Charismatics/Pentecostals

Association of Former Charismatics/Pentecostals

 

Larry Stocktill’s hypocrisy is so much in plain view,  how can his congregation fail to see it? It’s call oppressive authority!! When they go through that BRAINWASHING during the secluded “Encounters” they come out feeling like they are UNWORTHY to question ANY AUTHORITY! As a result, they get used up.

 When the Prosperity Gospel was popular and everyone was “speaking on it” and “claiming prosperity” and “Expecting A Hundred Fold In Return”, Larry Stockstill began marketing his prosperity-gospel book “THE LAWS OF INCREASE”. He’s so much into marketing his products that he DOESN’T EVEN USE the poor black folks in his congregation, instead, he uses models(CLICK HERE) CHECKOUT THE MOTHER Hugging her two daughters are models used by advertising agencies. U-haul has the same mother hugging her two kids in their brochures. Look at how their feet are daggling in mid air, it’s copied and pasted onto the other brother.

 

However, now that the Prosperity Gospel is no longer popular and HAS ROBBED THE POOR, Larry Stockstill wants to pretend that he’s repenting from this sin or in his own words “returning to simplicity”. The Stockstills surely aren’t bashful when it comes to traveling when their congregation is told to suspend theirs, LOL.

 

I have to give Larry credit though, he’s a slick one. First, he had his daughter go ahead of him and set up contacts Overseas with “Royalty” and when she opens doors…..he comes Daddy marketing his book, The Remnant. The ironic thing is that his marketing is definitely a Law of Increase.  Realizing many blacks in his congregation are withdrawing financial support, Larry has found another way to make money. He doesn’t need them anymore. Kicked to the curb.

 

Now he’s starting fresh in England where he’s attempting to market his book, THE LAWS OF INCREASE, all over again with the unsuspecting.

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WWW.PULPIT-PIMPS.ORG Friday, Mar 13 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS

 

Brother Melvin over at WWW.PULPIT-PIMPS.ORG has a posting which pretty much shows how the world views the church AND YES JOEL, I think it’s hillarious because these naive folks are in your congregation. CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO .

 

greedysplash

This brother has been sounding the alarm for years and was OFFICIALLY REBUKED by megachurches in his area. However, just like those gullible folks who deify The Untouchable  Stockstills, the naive don’t actually prove anything we say as wrong they just hurl adjectives like you’re “divisive, trouble maker, embarassing the church, twisting words, etc….”,

Melissa Stockstill, European Royalty Thursday, Mar 12 2009 

GREETINGS IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS OUR ONLY EXAMPLE AND SAVIOR

 

     I’m continued to be amazed at what the Stockstill’s get away with and how their lifestyles compare with those of their congregation. It’s clear why Larry Stockstill continues to advertise his Prosperity Gospel book, The Laws of Increase and claim that 2Sam.24:24 is about Capital Campaign which shows his members should give “over and beyond” their means.

 

royalty

 

Melissa Stockstill is another child of Larry Stockstill who the poor black congregation of Baker has put through college with their tithes/offerings. Melissa Stockstill showed up in December with so called “Royalty from London” to play a duet of Harps(CLICK HERE). On the video Melissa Stockstill informs the interviewer that she:

  1. Started Playing The Harp At Four Years Old(what were you doing in the hood at four years old?)
  2. Was Taught By An L.S.U. Teacher
  3. When asked If She Travels Often, “Yes, I do”(Didn’t Larry Stockstill instruct via his 20/20 vision program for your families to make sacrifices. Why isn’t his family making sacrifices?)
  4. She further admits she’s traveled to London “8 to 9 times within a year and half“!!  I’ve never known any of the poor black residents of Baker to have this privilege. I’m sure this LiL Sarah Palin is thankful for your tithes/offerings/sacrifices.

 After graduating from LSU (on the backs of those who will never see college) she moved to London to attend the Royal Academy of Music.

 

Question: How many children of Baker, La. have had these oppurtunities? Has Bethany supported your college tuition and traveling fees and Royal Music Lessons overseas??!! How many of your children have been able to TOUCH much less play a PRICELESS GOLDEN HARP?(READ HERE)

 

Melissa Stockstill is never seen with any of the Black members of Bethany, Why? She’s strictly European! This “Royalty” even copyrights her images. Visit her pics on Virb.Com and you’ll see she definitely doesn’t hold to the conservative views of her father. She shows a lot of skin(click here, I couldn’t post the pic here because she actually purchased to have them coyprighted). It reminds me of Sarah Palin and her daughter.

 

After checking the demographics of Baker, Louisiana, I see why The “SOUTH CAMPUS” WAS CHOSEN AND NOT THE ONE IN BAKER, LOUISIANA. Baker was not good enough to the Stockstill’s to host this ROYAL HARPIST. They didn’t want to be embarassed by the poverty and have this Royal European see its citizens. Instead the predominately white congregation at the North Campus hosted this event. Contrast or compare these demographics OF BAKER, LA. with the easy life of the Stockstills’ children(who must be that 2.4% below)

  1. Only 2.4% get to college(That must be the Stockstill’s children)
  2. Of that 2.4% that go to college ONLY 9% get their Bachelor Degree
  3. of that 2.4% ONLY 5.8% get a graduate degree
  4. The HOUSEHOLD income was only $38,500(remember the whole house income not one parent)

 

 

 

Melissa Stockstill, graduate of LSU, Royal Harpist

Melissa Stockstill, graduate of LSU, Royal Harpist. A very privilege many Baker, Louisiana children don't have. However, if your daddy convinces his congregation they have to make sacrifices and "give over and beyond", you can travel abroad and go to the best schools on the backs of the poor.

 

It amazes me how ministers claim to be Non-profit during tax time, yet their family members enjoy personal enrichment.  Again, hey Baker Louisiana have your kids:

 

  1. Gradauted from LSU
  2. Westminster

 

Oooh, that’s right you guys have to obey Larry Stockstill and submit to his 20/20 Vision program where you’re told to do the opposite of his kids(Joel&Melissa). He tells you in 20/20 Vision to(click here for original website rules for YOU and YOUR FAMILY:

 

1. Practice priority budgeting.
 

Many families choose to rearrange their priorities and give up something in their current budgets in order to give more to a capital campaign. Priority budgeting may mean postponing a planned expenditure for such things as a new car, vacation, home remodeling, or other major expenditure. Many Christians giving to capital stewardship campaigns find the means to give through sacrificial commitments made in faith and coupled with priority budgeting.

 

(It’s interesting how he says many families choose to “give up something” while his kids travel the world and graduate from universities, shopping sprees in West Palm Beach, Music Lessons in London)

 
..2. Redirect present expenditures.
 

Often families have significant short-term expenditures for special needs that can be redirected towards the capital campaign after the short-term obligations are met. For example, a family realized that their daughters would be graduating from college during the last two years of the capital campaign, and consequently, they were able to increase their commitment by thousands of dollars in the second and third years simply by redirecting what they had been spending on their daughters’ tuition. Another example of redirecting expenditures would be committing cash flow that becomes available after a loan is repaid.

 

(DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT HAVE MERCY??!!  IF ANYONE BLACK CITIZEN IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ENTER COLLEGE, HE SUGGESTS YOU CONTINUE THOSE PAYMENTS TO HIS CAPITAL CAMPAIGN??!!)

 
..3. Increase giving with increased income.
 

Some people receive periodic increases in salary or bonuses from their employers. The temptation for many of us is to increase our lifestyle to fit the higher income. In many instances, families have decided that they will commit the full amount of salary increases to the capital campaign.

 

(DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT REALIZE THESE INCREASES ARE NEEDED. IT’S NOT A “TEMPTATION” IT’S A NEED. IT’S ALSO AMAZING HOW HIS CHILDREN LIVE ROYALLY WHILE HE PLACES THESE RULES ON THE CONGREGATION)

 
..4. Give from your excess.
 

Some people have valuable possessions at their disposal. One young man decided that two of his collectors’ baseball cards worth over $20,000 would be the most appropriate means of sacrifice for his family. Other people save money over a period of years for a special project. For example, a couple had saved $80,000 to build a lake cabin. When their church entered a capital stewardship campaign, they decided the needs of the church were greater than their need for a second home.

 

(WOW, HE SAYS “OTHER PEOPLE SAVE MONEY”. UUUH, YEAH. IT’S CALLED RETIRMENT!! WHO ARE THESE MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE WHO GAVE UP THEIR LIVES FOR THE STOCKSTILL’S CHILDREN TO LIVE ROAYALLY??!!)

 
..5. Commit unexpected cash.
 

Often people pray for God to show them a way they can give beyond what they presently see or afford. Sometimes the answers come unexpectedly. A couple had been praying for weeks about their commitment to their church’s capital campaign. Much to their surprise, they received an inheritance of several thousand dollars. They gave the entire amount to their church as part of their three-year commitment, in addition to a commitment from their regular income.

 

(YOU TOOK A COUPLES INHERITANCE  IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY GIVING??!! HOW DID YOU CONVINCE THEM? MAN, YOU COULD SELL ICE TO AN ESKIMO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT AND T.V. STATION, BUT HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF SELLING USED CARS? YOU WOULD MAKE A KILLING!! I GUESS THAT’S WHY I’M NOT A TELEVANGELIST, BECAUSE MY CONSCIENCE WOULDN’T ALLOW ME TO TAKE THESE GIFTS MUCH LESS POST THESE SUGGESTIONS.  I’M SURE TEH STOCKSTILL KIDS ARE LOVING THE GIFTS, LOL)

 

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..6. Sacrifice extra time.
 

Some family members have extra time they would be willing to use in a part-time job to enable them to give more to the church. This is particularly true for families whose children are grown and away from home and for semiretired or retired couples. In one situation, a man was in the process of retiring when his church entered a capital campaign. He and his wife secured new jobs and gave the first three years of their retirement income to the capital campaign.

 

(WOW, MOST FAMILY MEMBERS GET A SECOND JOB TO HELP OUT WITH BILLS. LARRY STOCKSTILL WANTS THAT MONEY TOO. HE EVEN WANTS THE ELDERLY WHO’S KIDS ARE GONE TO GET A PART TIME JOB AND GIVE HIM ALL THEIR INCOME, LOL, THAT’S BOLD!!)

 
..7. Donate appreciated assets.
 

Many people own stocks that are worth significantly more than the original purchase price. That is good news. The bad news is that if these stocks are sold, a significant portion of the gain will be lost to taxation. Gifts of appreciated assets typically, investment securities or real estate—can be very advantageous to both the donor and the church. By transferring ownership of the asset to the church, the donor avoids income taxes on the sale of the asset. In addition, the donor receives an income tax deduction for the full market value of the asset. That, in effect, renders the gift less costly to make.

 

(YES, THESE STOCKS ARE USUALLY PART OF A 401K RETIRMENT PLAN, GOODNESS LARRY, HAVE MERCY!!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If Larry Stockstill wanted to truly pay off bills, he should have practiced what he preached to the people instead of sending his Melissa through college, overseas to study, and travel Europe on motorcycles OR shopping sprees in West Palm Beach while the city is helping citizens after a major hurricane!?

Oh that’s right, it’s not their job, IT’S YOUR JOB church member!! Please…continue to give over and beyond(stocks, pay raises, heirlooms, inheritance,  college tuition).

 

Bethany’s Holidays Vs. God’s Holy Days Thursday, Mar 12 2009 

Peace And Grace To You In The Name of Christ Jesus, Our Passover Lamb 

We’ve all seen Pastor Larry Stockstill’s constant call for integrity in the House of God and their actions contradicting. The latest you’ll see is Bethany World Prayer Center’s man made Pagan Feasts celebrations instead of God’s Holy Days.  The first and most obvious is replacing God’s Holy Day with the Roman Catholic Holiday that includes Pagan Rituals.

 

easter idol

 

Now, you ask most Christians about African Paganism(Voodoo, Hoodoo, Witch Craft) and they’ll without hesitation tell you it’s wrong and unbliblical. However, when it comes to European Paganism, that double standard that appeared during the Presidential election comes back.  Pastors will tell you it’s okay to mix European Paganism with Christianity,e.g., Feast of Easter.

 

The name Easter was applied by the Roman Catholic Church onto  God’s Holy Festival of Passover. It’s amazing to see Pastors correct the Roman Catholic Church and its Pope, yet they observe the Catholic’s Holy Days(Easter Mass, Sunday Mass, Mardi Gras, Lent, Christ-Mass/Christmas, Good Friday). Let’s start with the Bible and move towards today to see how the Tradition of The Elders has abolished God’s Holy Days.

 

The Prophet Daniel gave us the agenda and Characteristics of the ANTI-CHRIST/FALSE CHRIST. The one characteristic that pertains to this article is located at Dan.7:25:

  1. He will speak words against the Most High
  2. He will harass the Holy Ones of the Most High
  3. He will try to change their Holy Festivals AND LAWS

Number-3 is what the Roman Catholic Church has done and what many churches follow,i.e., the changing of God’s set Holy Days and Laws. The first time we encountered Larry Stockstill’s authority was at your ENCOUNTER RETREAT. Remember, he isolated you from family/friends and all forms of communication with the outside? His cell leaders had everyone take on the oath to follow God’s Laws and you said amen to receive a curse if you change ANY OF THEM. Well, you wholeheartedly change the Sabbath Day to the pagan Sun’Day AND NOW Passover to the pagan feast of EASTER. Oh Bethany(House of Misery) you rightly deserve the curses. Larry Stockstill, you’re playing God and leading others astray and not back to simplicity and sincerity. THIS IS WHY CHRIST INFORMED US HE DID NOT COME TO ABOLISH HIS FATHER’S LAW AND CALLED FOR THE DEMOTION OF ANYONE WHO DID(Mt. 5:17-19).

 

The meal that Christ ate before the leaders of God’s people falsely accused him unto crucifixion was A PASSOVER MEAL.  If we are Christians(imitators of Christ) why do we not have these concerns:

 

  1. Where will you have us to eat the Passover?(Mt.26:17)
  2. I will keep the Passover AT YOUR HOUSE with MY DISCIPLES(Mt.26:18)
  3. The DISCIPLES DID AS JESUS DIRECTED, They prepared the Passover(Mt.26:19)
  4. I EARNESTLY DESIRE to eat this Passover WITH YOU(Luke 22:15)
  5. DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME(LUKE 22:19; 1COR.11:24)

 

passover

 

Instead the leaders of our time have joined themselves with man made Holidays which they have mixed with God’s Holy Days.  We have not abolished Passover but we have “changed God’s times(Dan.7:25) to Sun-Day. In the First Council of Nicea(325ad) Emperor Constantine agreed that Passover should no longer be celebrated as the disciples and Christ practiced it but that it should change to Easter. Constantine sent out a letter to “…EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN” to obey it. Below are some excerpts from THE SYNODAL LETTER located

 

We further proclaim to you the good news of the agreement
concerning the holy Easter, that this particular also has through your
prayers been rightly settled; so that all our brethren in the East who
formerly followed the custom of the Jews are henceforth to celebrate
the said most sacred feast of Easter AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE ROMANS
and yourselves and all those who have observed Easter from the
beginning.(The whole issue at the bottom of this letter preserved by Jesuit University of New York)

 

I encourage you to research the Roman Emperor Constantine’s Christianity. All scholars/historians, both christian and secular, will inform you that the Roman Emperor never truly converted to Christianity, he loved the idea of worshipping on Sun-Day because this is what he was doing before coming to Christ. HE WAS AN IDOL WORSHIPPER who set your Holy Days.

 

Paul wrote to the Corinthian Congregation about how they celebrated their Passover Feast with Sexual Sin. The Corinthian Church thought this was one big party like their former Idol Feasts were. After correcting them and instructing them to remove the LEAVEN from their lives HE INSTRUCTS THEM TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER!!

 

1Cor. 5:7-8 For Christ OUR PASSOVER LAMB has been sacrificed.  Therefore, LET US CELEBRATE THE FEASTIVAL….

 

Please read the whole context of 1Cor. 5:1-9. Paul instructs the Corinthians to first remove the leaven from their Congregation and celebrate because Our Passover Lamb has been sacrificed. These words mirror the times when Passover was celebrated by the great men of Faith. Cross reference Paul’s letter with Ex.12:21, Ex.13:7, Dt. 16:3,. This is why the Book of Revelation is filled with visions of Christ as a Lamb. Easter and rabbits have nothing to do with Christianity. Easter is leaven mixed into God’s Passover Feasts.  Christ instructs his disciples to “do this in remembrance of me(Lk.22:26). This was not the idol Easter’s Day or the Roman Sun-Day, it was God’s Passover.

 

Ask a Christian why he celebrates Easter instead of Christ’s Passover and he’ll tell you to remember Christ’s ressurection. Christ instructed to remember HIS DEATH NOT HIS RESURRECTION.  The feast of Easter messes God’s Holy Days all up! Christ and Paul state we remember Christ’s Death not ressurection. Paul told the congregation since OUR PASSOVER LAMB WAS SACRIFICED not ressurected. Paul also states(1Cor.11:25-27), “You proclaim the Lord’s Death Till he comes”.

 

Since The Romans changed God’s times and laws. This Passover meal was relabled “the Lord’s Supper” and placed on Sunday usually the first Sun-Day of every month.  Surely, if Bethany seeks to be a role model REMNANT, they’ll abandon The Roman Catholic Pagan Feasts for God’s appointed times.

 

For more research on the Passover Vs. Easter controversy with Rome:

 

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA

 

WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

BIBLICALHOLIDAYS.COM

 

SHOULD NON-JEWS CELEBRATE PASSOVER?

 

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. (Eccl. 3:1).

 

 

Joel The Perfect Prophet or Profit? Wednesday, Mar 11 2009 

Peace Be Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus,

 

Well,  it’s obvious that Joel Stockstill has regained his authority after a failed coup d’etat by supporters of President Barack Obama.  This remnant was successfully divided and conquered; they either fled Bethany(House of Poverty/Misery) or  begged for the forgiveness of the Stockstills.

 

NOW THAT JOEL has regained his power, he restored himself as head teacher and “hearing from the LORD” again. As we know from the death of Amy Stockstill, his wife,  Joel’s prophecy has a 50/50 chance of becoming true. Unfortunately, a man of God who claims to hear God’s voice and exhorts the congregation to obey him HAS TO BE 100 PERCENT CORRECT. This is not a guessing game like the con-artists who sit in front of crystal balls or those televangelists on T.B.N.

 

 Joel even “sounds the trumpet” on his website that he is a “PROPHETIC VOICE TO THIS GENERATION“. Check out the graphic in the upper right hand corner of his blog, talking about vain. These self proclaimed half-right prophets are an embarassment to the Church.

 

MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND DECEIVE MANY(MT.24:11)

MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND DECEIVE MANY(MT.24:11)

 

 However, he’s no different than his father who prophecies about seeing  GOD opening a temporary “WINDOW OF OPPURTUNITY FOR REPENTANCE”. for the Churches. What Larry Stockstill fails to realise it’s not the Churches of America, IT’S HIS DENOMINATION(Neo-Charismatic/Charismatic)!! Ihighly recommend you PROTECT YOUR FAMILY from these Charismatic Cults. Don’t get defensive, check out the references from these Pastors who have been sounding the alarm about the Charismatics before Larry Stockstill’s “dream”  for repentance.

 

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

   ORIGINAL LINK HERE TO “SIGNS AND WONDER CAMP“. As you can see “The Remnant” cry is nothing new, just like I showed with Larry’s 20/20 Vision program the Charismatic Denomination just passes on their money making scams to the next preacher. Joel is the second profile in the article.

 If the  Senior Pastor of Bethany has been wrong with it’s messages and prophecies, WHY SHOULD I NOW BELIEVE YOU ARE RECEIVING A MESSAGE FROM GOD??!!  Larry Stockstill is just like his son, A FALSE PROPHET!! He admits to the church being the problem and need for repentance but NEVER GAVE THIS GRACE TO TED HAGGARD but banished him. Yet, when Larry’s the problem he calls for everyone to gather around him and believe his prophecies/dreams. FALSE PROPHETS HAVE ARRIVED!!  It was in plain site. They waited until they got many people to become members and then proclaim themselves Prophets, LOL. Y’all slick!! And just in time for his book, The Remnant. If God is truly showing Larry Stockstill Judgment Day on America, WHY IS HE VACATIONING IN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN GREECE??!! He claims Pastors are the problem because they’re carrying on as normal, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!! Get off vacation!

 

Joel’s statement is interesting because before stating what “The Lord says” he first let’s his congregation know that he’s turning thirty(30) on March 12, 2009. He correlates his age(30) with PERFECTION and snags proof-texts out the bible. Joel from his proof-texts goes on to call this Birth Day celebration a “…VERY SPIRITUAL MILESTONE”. 

 

The problem is found in his next statement which is the basis of both his and his father’s(Larry Stockstill’s) rule for dishonest bible study EVERYTIME  they open that Holy Book,i.e., “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, WE SEE THAT….”.  This is a huge problem with the Stockstills and a major violation for any exegete. You can make the Scriptures say anything you want, “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL….”. The verses he yanks out of context are not didactic passages on the number thirty(30) as proof  this number is associated with perfection. In fact, in the Jewish context of Christ it’s the number seven that is associated with perfection!! I’ll save that study for the bottom but first let’s look at Joel’s supposed evidence that his turning 30 is perfection and/or a very spiritual milestone.

  1. (Joel)-JESUS STARTED HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY AT 30.

FALSE: Christ did not start his ministry “AT” age 30 but APPROXIMATELY/ABOUT age 30, it’s an estimate not an exact. Luke 3:23 is the closest evidence we have for guessing Christ’s age when He began his ministry. Here’s the verse:

 

  23     JESUS,   WHEN   HE   BEGAN   HIS   MINISTRY,   WAS   ABOUT   THIRTY   YEARS
      Καὶ1   Ἰησοῦς4   5   αὐτὸς2   ἀρχόμενος5       ἦν3   ὡσεὶ6   τριάκοντα8   ἐτῶν7
      Kai   Iēsous       autos   archomenos           ēn   hōsei   triakonta   etōn
      C   NNSM       PPNSM   VPNSMPD           VF3SIIA   T   MGPN   NGPN
      2532   2424       846   756           1510   5616   5144   2094
  OF   AGE,   BEING   THE   SON   (AS   WAS   SUPPOSED)   OF   JOSEPH,   THE   SON   OF   HELI,  
      ὢν9     υἱός10   ὡς11     ἐνομίζετο12     Ἰωσὴφ13   τοῦ14       Ἠλὶ15  
          ōn       huios   hōs       enomizeto       Iōsēph   tou           Ēli  
          VPNSMPA       NNSM   T       VF3SIID|VF3SIIP       NGSM   RGSM           NGSM  
          1510       5207   5613       3543       2501   3588           2242  
Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 3:23). Logos Research Systems, Inc.
I supplied an interlinear version to show you the greek text along with it’s English version. Please take notice TO THE DETAILS which Joel and his daddy love to leave out!! The greek word that “HOSEI” modifies “TRIAKONTA ETON(30YEARS). The original author is informing us that he is not sure of the EXACT AGE OF CHRIST but that Christ was “HOSEI(ABOUT)” 30.
The author of the Gospel of Luke uses this approximating again at LUKE 9:14-
  14   For   there   were   about   five   thousand   men.   And   he   said   to   his  
      γὰρ2     ἦσαν1   ὡσεὶ3     πεντακισχίλιοι5   ἄνδρες4   δὲ7     εἶπεν6   πρὸς8   αὐτοῦ11  
      gar       ēsan   hōsei       pentakischilioi   andres   de       eipen   pros   autou  
      T       VF3PIIA   T       MNPM   NNPM   C       VF3S2IA   EA   PPGSM  
      1063       1510   5616       4000   435   1161       3004   4314   846  
disciples,   “Have   them   sit   down   in   groups   of   about  
τοὺς9 μαθητὰς10   12   αὐτοὺς13   κατακλίνατε12       κλισίας14   17   ὡσεὶ15  
tous mathētas       autous   kataklinate           klisias       hōsei  
RAPMNAPM       PPAPM   VF2PAVA           NAPF       T  
35883101       846   2625           2828       5616  
fifty   each.”  
πεντήκοντα17   ἀνὰ16  
pentēkonta   ana  
MAPN   EA|D  
4004   303  

Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 9:14). Logos Research Systems, Inc.

 

 

The original gospel’s author is approximating again. The author is not saying he was present during this feeding!! In fact we are not sure who the author of this Gospel is. The name Luke was placed on this gospel because a second century document called the MURATORIAN CANON did so. FURTHERMORE, the author approximates because he is NOT AN EYEWITNESS but rather went and “investigated(LUKE 1:3)” everything so that a person by the name of THEOPHILUS would know about what the actual EYEWITNESSES passed on to him. As a result, Luke gives numbers and dates as “about” and not exactly.

So for Joel we see how cults have successfully con the naive out of money (as Larry Stockstill did with 2Sam.24:24 calling it a Capital Campaign) and how THEY CLAIM TO BE PERFECT (though have a history of failed prophecies like Amy’s death). It’s because they leave out the details while inserting their LIES!!! Like Hank Hangergraaf at the Christian Research Institute says about Televangelists, “They use the skin of truth and stuff it full of lies!!”. See his articles at WWW.EQUIP.ORG

This is not a teaching passage on the number thrity. Joel you are abusing the Holy Scriptures to exhalt your minsitry to “perfection”. Luke is not intending to show the number 30 to be an exact number of perfection. This is merely a NARRATIVE that informs the reader “…WAS ABOUT THIRTY”. The context and the author betrays your suggestion about the number thirty.

As far as your equating David’s age at the time he became King of Judah, nothing in the immediate context suggests that perfection was involved. In fact, David was chosen and annointed at a much younger age, He slew Goliath at a younger age, so……?? In the mind of a Hebrew(which Christ came as and King David is) the number SEVEN is associated with perfection NOT THIRTY. As Easton’s Bible Dictionary  THAT THE  APPEARANCES OF THE NUMBER SEVEN  “…sufficiently prove the importance of this sacred number”.

If I used the eisegesis of The Stockstill’s, that would mean that since Christ was betrayed with 30 pieces of silver, it proves that Joel will further betray his congregation when he turns 30. That would be ridiculous just as Joel’s 30 of perfection is dubious.

OR

Again, using Joel’s rules for bible study one would be allowed at teaching since Ezekiel(1:1) was exiled in the 30th. year it means that Joel’s congregation will finally exile him to Babylon.  If the age of 30 was that significant Joel shouldn’t have been a minister until age 30!!  According to his preaching about age 30, this means he’s been out of the will of God, jumping into ministry to early.

As the economy gets worse and the church becoming a laughing stock due to it’s leaders receiving gifts, watch how the leaders of 220 lavish their Prophet for his birthday. Which member of the congregation was ever granted such gifts as this?

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  1. Official Kobe Bryant Jersey
  2. Courtside Tickets to Lakers vs. Spurs Game
  3. Roundtrip Plane Tickets to San Antonio
  4. The same for “Jonathan and Jared”
  5. A Brand New Fully Loaded Honda Four-Wheeler

    Wow, I remember driving through Baker, La. lastweek and was saddened at the poverty these Christians are forced to live in while their perfected prophet at 30 gets the royal treatment after abandoning them during Gustav for West Palm Beach!!!  Also, it’s amazing how absolutely Bethany didn’t honor any Civil Rights Leader during Black History Month but these folks lavished their deity(Joel) with gifts.

  

JOEL, ADONAI WILL TAKE HIS REVENGE ON YOU AND YOUR LEADERS!! YOU NEED TO WAKE UP!! YOUR LEADERS ARE WRONG FOR TAKING MONEY FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS FOR YOUR PERSONAL ENRICHMENT!! YOU LEADERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR COERCING THESE KIDS!!

It shouldn’t suprise us, we see how Jordan Jopling lies for him. In my other article, Jordan Jopling, Liar, Liar, I showed how he clearly fabricated the reason for Joel having to vacation in West Palm Beach while everyone else was struggling during Gustav. Now Jordan Jopling takes the offensive instead of  reacting to possible negative comments. He has clearly learned from the past incidents at Bethany. Jordan rationalizes the material gifts that Joel received with the weak cause….

 

(What follows must be read with the understanding that Pastor Joel is a huge basketball, NBA, and Lakers fan:-).)

 

So I guess all of these “GIFTS”(as Prosperity Televangelists call them) are okay. Thanks Jordan, it was also good to see you standing there in agreement.  I can’t believe y’all actually put this on the W.W.W. much less video. I’m so glad GOD woke me up. This is exactly what went on. 

If you listened carefully, the M.C. introducing Joel’s perfect prophet at 30 B-Day Bash, informs the teens at the 36second mark THAT THEIR monies was redirect to Joel’s B-Day Bash. That’s actually a crime. Donations such as offerings & tithes are not to be used for personal enrichment. After hyping up the crowd the M.C. holding the microphone informs the teens:

 

“(starting at 36 second mark) WHAT YOU GUYS DON’T KNOW is that …

  1. Pastor Joel’s Birthday is next Thursday, March 12
  2. He turns 30 years old
  3. And he’s gonna watch the Lakers play in his jersey
  4. YOU BOUGHT HIM

 

Okay did anybody catch that last phrase about what they “DON’T KNOW”??!! Again, “YOU BOUGHT…”. LOL, boy they are slick. They pump the crowd up and slide in the purchase they didn’t know they spent their money on.

A “black” Man or Oreo, Tim S.? Thursday, Mar 5 2009 

Peace Be Upon You In The Name Of Christ Jesus The Passover Lamb (not the Stockstill’s idol the EASTER BUNNY/EGG HUNTS),

 

I, Ovadyah, determined this respondent deserved his own post also. There are many Blacks who have made the exodus from out of The House Of Poverty(Bethany), yet there is a remnant who remains(eventhough Tim.S is really in Los Angeles,Ca. not La.). They remain despite the supporting evidence that GOD gives them that they SHOULD LEAVE!! I will present Tim S.’s post in bold text and respond accordingly.

 

<strong> You obviously do not know the Stockstills personally. I am a BLACK man and the Stockstill’s church itself represents a standard and example for racial integration world wide. Get the facts. The Bible says that, “Man sees the outward appearance, but God sees the heart.” Let’s try to be a little more Godlike. </strong>

 

Oreos-Black Skin Double Stuffed With White

Oreos-Black Skin Double Stuffed With White

 

     Dear Tim S., I never claim to have known them personally. Thanks for clarifying that and I would like to support that fact. This website is not a personal attack on the Stockstills but an expose’ on their doctrine. You will not find me attacking them personally(i.e., making claims without evidence) because that’s not the intention. This is what the defenders of The Stockstill’s do when they respond to my posts. They attack me as a “Liar, word twister, bitter, etc.” without supporting evidence. If we don’t give supporting evidence to our statement they become “defamation of character” or “opinions”. This usually happens when people respond emotionally instead of logically. I’m attacking their bias with evidence that their subjects have yet to refute.

 

So, what particular statement is false?

 

Furthermore, I don’t have to know them personally to clearly see the double standard they present to Our now President Back Obama(as noted in my blog).  Joel constantly hailed Sarah Palin as a “Phenomenon(PART ONEPART TWO )” while hurling insults at our now President. Why didn’t he mention the short comings of the Palin family or even the McCain Campaign? Isn’t the possible election of a black man as President of the United States more of a “Phenomenon” than a dizzy Govenor from Alaska??!!

 

HE DOESN’T KNOW SARAH PALIN OR PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA YET HE DOG’S ONE WHILE PRAISES THE OTHER!!! Yet, here you come defending Joel??!! I’ve said it before and I’ll say again. This is that clear doulbe standard!! You deify the Stockstills. Why didn’t you rebuke Joel when he “dogged out” President Obama with the same way you rebuked me??!! with….

 

“JOEL YOU CLEARLY DON’T KNOW OBAMA PERSONALLY….”

 

Why didn’t you rebuke The Stockstills Mr. “Black Man”??!! Why the double standard??!! One for your white leader and one for your black people. You clearly have been taught well by your Masters, good boy. You really disappoint me. How could you? People who present this double standard like you are known in the black community as “OREOS”. You’re black on the outside and WHITE ON THE INSIDE. It shouldn’t suprise us, in this day and age we even have blacks who are official members of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

If You Ignore The Warning Signs, You're Discernment Will Embarrass You Before The World

If You Ignore The Warning Signs, You're Discernment Will Embarrass You Before The World

 

Instead of rebuking Joel, you attack the black folks who expose him; SAD, truly SAD!!  First, practice what you preach. Next, uphold justice and maintain ONE STANDARD FOR ALL NOT TWO  like Joel has taught you. I have yet to see anyone who defend the Stockstills practice what they preach to me. Yet, I know why….it’s because they don’t even believe in it. It’s just that they’ve been taught there are two standards, one for whites and another for blacks(mexicans, any non-white)!!

You paraphrased from the bible “Man sees the outward appearance, but God sees the heart”.

 

Again, why didn’t you rebuke Joel & Larry Stockstill with these verses??!! Why do you continue with the double standard??!! Why didn’t you rebuke them??!! LOL, you really have sold out haven’t you? You remind of the new G.O.P. Chairman Steele who was obviously pushed into that position. Chairman Steele(who is black) rebuked Rush Limbaugh(who is white) for shouting at the applause of other hateful whites at how he wants “Obama to fail”. Why did this black man do that??!! Rush Limbaugh shouted black at Chairman Steele with pure disrepect for defending Obama and what does Chairman Steel do? He apologizes to Rush Limbaugh, LOL and withdraws his defense for his brother Obama!! So you’re not the only puppet out there. Practice apologizing here so they can be proud of you. Oh that’s right Joel stated on his blog he’s not SEEKING APOLOGIES, LOL. Leave him alone, I’m sure he’s “hearing from GOD” again.

I’ve also notice when the whites wanted to rebuke Obama they sent another minority puppet to do it for them,i.e., Gov. Bobby Jindall, Chairman Steele, etc.. Goodness..y’all funny. I’ve notice also that Jonathan has FINALLY ADDED a black face to his advertising of his “Deluge Band”. Will minorities fall for it? Time will tell….

Furthermore, I’m not judging the outside of Larry Stockstill. I could care less how pale he is. You will not find a baseless attack on whites simply because their white. You will not find a double standard for whites and one for blacks. I’ve quoted and referenced THEIR DOCTRINE AND POLITICAL BLOGS. It’s a shame to see them using church funds to endorse Sarah Palin/John McCain’s campaign. Palin Phenomenon, LOL. I agree if this site were attacking Larry’s whiteness instead of his doctrine ONLY THEN WOULD YOUR PARAPHRASE MAKE SENSE.

You know whites have always put blacks like you in charge. In THE MOVIE “ROOTS” this REAL LIFE SLAVE was played by Louis Gossip Jr.(Fiddler, a mythical character) in the movie “ROOTS”. There was one set of rules for whites and another set of rules for black AND ANYTIME THE NEGRO STEPPED OUT OF LINE….there was FIDDLER & UNCLE TOM correcting them, while praising their superiors. Way too go, “brother”.

Peace To You Double Standard Tim.S.,

Ovadyah