LARRY THE LYING $TOCK$TILL PT.3 Monday, Sep 28 2009 

hypocrisy

Larry Stockstill continues to have all the right words but all the wrong practice. As more and more people are fleeing from his authority and revealing the scams and coercion tactics of Bethany, he claims to have spoken with a represenative from the Billy Graham Ministry about their success. Lying Larry claims Bethany has ALWAYS followed a particular rule of not speaking against other ministries:

Finally, they would never criticize other leaders from the pulpit. Using the pulpit to elbow past your competitors is not the will of God.

That is EXACTLY what we are doing in the “Remnant” movement for pastors. Thousands of pastors are reading that book and resetting their values. It’s good to know that Billy Graham did that exact thing 60 years ago and is still going strong. I believe God will do it again for the new generation!(Sunday, July 19th, 2009 at 6:23 am)

The first and obvious thing we see is the continue promotion of his book “Remnant” not God’s book, the Bible(which is free) but Larry’s Book which he claims is getting these insufficient pastors to finally start “…RESETTING THEIR VALUES”. Lying Larry needs to start with his own house before he attempts to straighten out “THOUSANDS OF PASTORS….”. Both Larry and Joel have provided false prophecies and abuse of the Scriptures to steal money from naive christians.

Osteen's service is an uninhibited celebration that's part rock concert, part spectacular. There are no crosses, no religious symbols whatsoever. It's all taped and broadcast around the world. His service is seen in 100 foreign countries and is the most watched religious broadcast in America.

According to his CBS Interview, Osteen's service is an uninhibited celebration that's part rock concert, part spectacular. THERE ARE NO CROSSES, NO RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS WHATSOEVER. It's all taped and broadcast around the world. His service is seen in 100 foreign countries and is the most watched religious broadcast in America.(Click Here For entire article by CBS News)

Larry made the claim that Bethany “…WOULD NEVER CRITICIZE OTHER LEADERS FROM THE PULPIT.”. However, Joel Stockstill just condemned JOEL OSTEEN’S Church. Anyone familiar with Joel Osteen’s numerous interviews know that their Church is very liberal and does not display crosses or any religious relics or talk about sin, they only “motivate” people AND JOEL CONTRADICTS LARRY BY STATING:

“…when I hear PREACHERS say things like “our church doesn’t have a cross or anything like that in it” as a statement of relevance and persuasion to attend I GET DISGUSTED!(Posted Aug.29,2009. 11:19am)”

“No longer do LEADERS allow the gifts of the Spirit to operate in the gathering of believers on Sunday morning for fear of making some poor visitor uneasy. (most have no need to disallow because they couldn’t move in the gifts if their life depended on it!(Posted Aug.29, 2009, 11:19am)”

Joel’s criticizing The Osteens because they support Pres. Barack Obama while Joel promoted Sarah Palin/McCain during the campaign. Larry King’s interview has The Osteens stating that Pres. Obama “…DOING A GREAT JOB, LOVES THE LORD, I BELIEVE HE IS A CHRSTIAN“. Joel has yet to make any respectful statement(click here for entire interview with Osteens and Larry Kings):

“Larry King: Since you were last on, we have sworn in our first African-American president. What are your impressions [of Barack Obama]?

Joel Osteen: Well, I think he’s doing a great job. I’m impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I’ve been really impressed. In fact, I’ve been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she’s done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don’t know his religion, but to most of them it don’t matter. Should it matter?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it’s important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I’m making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. … I believe he is a Christian.”

Instead Joel continues the paranoid statements made by white christians that Pres. Obama is the an agent of the Anti-Christ. This statement has never been made from Bethany until an African-American took office:

“Yes, there is a spirit of anti-Christ that would try to take over our govt and nation, but yet there is still a remnant of righteous men and women who have been placed there strategically by the Holy Spirit.(Click Here)”

Question to those who deify the Stockstills. Who’s the liar? Larry or Joel? THEY JEALOUSY IS ELBOWING PAST THE COMPETITION!! Bethany claims ony 10,000 members and national televised airing while Joel Osteen’s Church has 30,000 and international airing. But Bethany would never speak against another leader, LOL. The Stockstills are annointed, the problem is they’ve used dirty oil. As “Chris P.” commented in the blog “Joel Condemns Michael Jackson”:

“Ummm…Ovadyah you’re wasting your time with “The Remnant’ LOL,

The blacks you see that stayed behind at Bethany are “sell-outs”. The Stockstills could crap in their lap and tell em it’s an annointing and they will believe it. There’s no amount of proof that will open their eyes, I’ve been there. They use your state as a sinner against you anytime you speak against their prophet “status”.

Furthermore, look at the black leaders that remained. They have no soul!! They didn’t attend a (H)istorically (B)lack (C)ollege like Southern University, they don’t hang around blacks, they don’t know black slang, they don’t use black dialect, and they don’t even listen to black gospel music. That is how they were recruited by The Stockstills, they(The Stockstills) saw these negroes at L.S.U. and loved their “good-ole boy” demeanor and that will be the closest thing to a black minister.

I say all of that to say this. I understand your expose’ but blacks like the above will refuse to even look this way because the Stockstills have convinced them that God will punish any contesting. So, those of us who left enjoy your stance but the remnant that was bullied into staying, WILL STAY NO MATTER WHAT. You’re wasting your time trying to get them to think apart from what the Stockstills are telling them.

Chris P.
Baker,La.

SEE THE MISCONCEPTIONS/RUMORS ABOUT OBAMA THAT WHITES ARE SPREADING

JOELS FAVORITE NEWS CHANNEL, FOX NEWS CHANNEL, IS RACIST!! CLICK HERE.

Law$ of Increa$e Friday, Dec 12 2008 

Peace to you in the name of The Holy One, Christ Jesus…

     It seems that the old greedy Larry Stockstill remains despite his deceitful attempt to repent from false doctrines and wierd practices. If you travel to Larry Stockstill’s television stations’s website WLFT, you will see the promotion of his profit making doctrine, The Laws of Increase. It really shocked me because even the corrupt televangelist who practiced deceitful capital campaigns (Joyce Meyer so far) are turning away from these scams. I guess when you start losing donations from a majority of your congregation, you have to go back to what works….SELLING HOPE!! Preying instead of Praying!! Endorsing Profits instead of Prophets!!

 

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     The author violates every basic reading comprehension rule there is. He redefines almost every biblical definition of Bible words to fit his obvious coveting. It should appaul even the teenager in middle school how Larry Stockstill deceitfully  supports his pretext. Have the naive at Bethany finally discovered the greatest protest is boycott?!  My biggest concern about re-advertising this book is….

 

  • HOW CAN LARRY STOCKSTILLL PROMOTE THIS DOCTRINE AGAIN WITH SUCH A HURTING ECONOMY?!  THIS DOCTRINE HAS DONE NOTHING BUT POOR SALT ON THE WOUNDS OF THE POOR  AND MAKE HIM MONEY TO TAKE TRIPS AROUND THE WORLD AND PUT HIS KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE!  ANY GODLY MAN WOULD HAVE NEVER CONTINUED SUCH DESTRUCTIVE DOCTRINE DURING THESE HARD TIMES! OR DOES HIS SON JOEL STOCKSTILL NEED TO GO ON ANOTHER WEST PALM BEACH SHOPPING TRIP DURING A  MAJOR DISASTER AT HOME?! Like Father like Son, during hard times they kick back with your money…LOL.

 

     He goes on to give a lesson on witnessing to unbelievers from Scripture.  A gross abuse of  the Gospel of Luke chapter-5. Larry Stockstill obviously has no conscience. He claims that this chapter shows us how to witness to unbelievers and he uses the catchphrase “GET INTO THEIR BOAT” (Pg. 10, Laws of Increase, Larry Stockstill, Xulon Press) . The phrase “GET INTO THEIR BOAT” according to Larry Stockstill means nothing more than “HEY, CAN I GET TO KNOW YOU?” and supports his eisegesis with Luke Chapter-5. Larry Stockstill states he encountered an unbeliever from another country and never informed that person he was a Christian or Pastor. Is this what Christ did in Luke’s narrative?  Let’s see without isolating verses to fit any pretext:

 

  1. After teaching in Syngagogue and healing the crowds. The Galileans didn’t want Yeshua to leave them but he responded that “I MUST PREACH GOOD NEWS TO OTHER TOWNS AS WELL….that’s MY PURPOSE(Luke 4:43)”.
  2. After seeing the empty boats(V.2) he got into the boat and SAT DOWN AND TAUGHT THE PEOPLE (V.3) which backs up His statement above, ‘ I MUST PREACH THE GOOD NEWS TO OTHER TOWNS(4:43)’.
  3. Christ’s miracle along with his words caused Peter to immediately repent(Luke 5:8)
  4. Peter immediately became a disciple (Luke 5:10)
  5. They left EVERYTHING and FOLLOWED him (Lk.5:11)

 

Now Larry Stockstill’s version of witnessing:

  1. I didn’t tell them I was a pastor(Pg.11)
  2. I didn’t witness to them with words(Pg.11)
  3. I just sat down in their boat with them (Pg.11)
  4. I simply sacrificed a bit of time to be with them, to get to know them(Pg.12)
  5. Just get into their boat(Pg.12)

 

     Is that all Christ did? He didn’t witness to them? He didn’t preach? He didn’t cause repentance? He didn’t win a disicple? He merely became friends with people? He simply “sacrificed” time to get to know them? NO, GOD FORBID! Yeshua preached the goodnews without precondition. Christ did not wait months or weeks to get to know people and then slipped in the Good News. 

     Second, Larry Stockstill is quite prideful to suggest his model of lifestyle is what we should follow. I knew the naive deified him as an idol BUT TO PRAISE YOURSELF IS AN ABOMINATION!! Larry you are NOT the example, Christ alone(Blessed Be He).

     Oh my goodness! He goes on to apply JOHN  12:24 and 2Sam.24:24 which he again violates basic biblical hermeneutics and states these as examples of sacrificing. Again, not the biblical definition of Sacrifice but his capital and friendship witnessing versions. We’ve aleady become aware of the true CONTEXT of 2Sam.24:24.

     However, I must give credit where it’s due. He does correctly state that some people give with the expectation of giving which is not godly. We should give because we have found this giving to contribute to an annointed purpose (charity, homelessness, etc.). HOWEVER, this totally contradicts his purpose of writing that very book. He states his purpose is to show us how to get “increase”. In the context of the book it’s obviously an increase in capital/goods. Anyone who has REALLY read a contract that sounded to good to be true can see the deception. Many ads on T.V. promise you the world (weightloss, huge muscles, ripped abs, financial prosperity, etc.). Yet, when you read the “SMALL PRINT” you realise their hidden disclosure(results not typical, these statement have not been evaluated by the F.D.A., people shown are paid actors). It’s the same with Larry Stockstill’s promises. He knows the results won’t happen and his disclosure is DON’T EXPECT TO GET ANYTHING IN RETURN but at the same time I’LL SHOW YOU HOW TO GET INCREASE.

     The way Larry Stockstill goes back and forth out of context is very confusing. He uses the original author’s words but could care less of the original author’s definition(s) behind those words or their immediate context.  This is why it’s important to study the original languages and biblical hermeneutics.  Larry Stockstill is an expert at appealing to human greed. Everytime I read his steps on how to get “INCREASE” he reminds us, the readers, not to expect it or follow these steps simply to get increase. Why even produce this book then? Why state the reason is to show us how to obtain “increase” when we’re not to really follow his steps for increase?! Confusing….

I just had to stop because it was so hard to follow,i.e., NON-SEQUITOR!! He isolates so many verses and superimposes so many semantics on “SACRIFICE” the reader is left believing that the original authors sometimes used the hebrew/greek words for sacrifice to mean merely “spend time with people don’t preach the gospel” to “give over and beyond sacrifice your family’s needs”. We can see from his international trips, His kids graduating college, musical lessons, Joel’s West Palm Beach  shopping spree, that Larry Stockstill’s claim he doesn’t want your money is a “PHONEY TESTIMONY”. He merely wants us to be rich, LOL…OMGoodness…

 

It’s the skin of  truth STUFFED WITH LIES!!

 

 

 

 

Larry Stockstill’s Indirect Repentance Wednesday, Aug 27 2008 

PEACE AND GRACE IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS WHO GIVES US UNDERSTANDING AND FREEDOM

 

     I knew this day would come. The traffic that has dramatically increased to this site it was only a matter of time that word would get back to Larry Stockstill of Bethany.com concerning Ovadyah’s Weblog.

     If you will take time to remember Pastor Joel Osteen’s interview on Larry King Live viewed by many on CNN. Larry King specifically asked Joel if he truly believed the words of Christ that He was the only way to The Father and if Muslims reject Christ and never accept Christ will they get into heaven. Joel danced around the question and was obviously afraid to back up Christ and buckled like Peter in the courtyard! After several complaints from his congregation, Joel Osteen apologized but not directly/formally but on a link tucked away on the congregations website which I can no longer locate.

     That brings us to Larry Stockstill. The word has obviously reached his ears about a menacing man of God who is slowly exposing the corruption of his House of Poverty(Bethany). Again, from the influx of traffic over the past (4) days I knew it was inevitable. Larry Stockstill quickly added TODAY(Aug.27,2008)!!!

 

In today’s world of hype, complex and false doctrine, phony testimonies, wild visions, and weird practices, I come back to “simplicity and sincerity.”

 

     Wow, this is definitely a mouthful and a good start. As I said to Miss Marian’s emotional message, “I give credit where credit is due”.  We the people at Ovadyah are still on alert and will never let our guard down but again good start. 

     I remain on alert because it’s an indirect repentance. He describes todays church or in his words “today’s world”  as(using his adjectives, Webster’s definitions, my examples):

  • Hype– To put on or deceive. For example Pastor Steve Hill’s claim about Congressman, Police with prisoners, etc. flooding his Pensacola/Brownesvill Revivals.
  • Complex– Hard to analyze, e.g., the voices that Televangelist constantly hear from God which contradicts written Scripture(complex because the member becomes confused. If my pastor claims to be hearing from God why does he/she contradict Scripture?! I don’t want to be a trouble maker)
  • False Doctrine- Deceptive teachings, e.g., Benny Hinn’s slaying people in the spirit, T.D. Jakes denial of the Trinity,  Oprah’s denial that Christ is the only way)
  • Phony Testimonies– A public confession of a FALSE EXPERIENCE, e.g., Steve Hill recanting and later admitting to exaggerate his preconversion life in order to “INCREASE THE IMPACT” of his autobiography, “Stone Cold Heart” which was exposed by the local newspaper(Pensacola News Journal AND  Encyclopedia of Evangelism, Randall Balmer, Pg.107 entitled Brownesville Revival).
  • Wild Visions- Fake dreams/divine Revelation(s), e.g., visits to heaven, dreams confirmed as visions from God without being sure, retelling complex dreams but not sure of it’s meaning (if any).
  • Weird Practices – Slain in the spirit(or as many have experience, shoved/forced down by cell leaders’ hands) disorder in the church by encouraging everyone to talk out loud which obviously will lead to unintelligable words falsey labeled “Speaking In Tongues”, Giving up money to the church until it ruins your families future.

 

     I couldn’t describe Bethany any better! However, let’s give credit where it’s due. Pastor Larry goes on to confess:

“I come back to simplicity and sincerity.”

 

     A Christian who knows Scripture and baby greek/hebrew knows that the above statement is a loud and clear confession of REPENTANCE, i.e., “…come back….”. Pastor Larry is now realising or has realised that things are out of control despite the many Yes-Men surrounding him. Or has he realised he was wrong? It’s definitely “COMPLEX” because to the laymen indirect. Is he only saying what people want to hear and continuing his old ways?! The same could be said of Jimmy Swaggart’s confession. Though he displayed a flood of tears and a red face and publicly, directly, repented. How can we know for sure? Only time will tell, is he still allowing disorder in the church and calling it speaking in tongues, is he still allowing false doctrines to be taught because it’s popular, are those on-the-run televangelist still allowed to teach at Bethany?

     I hope that Pastor Larry is truthful in his repentance and this is not a “PHONY TESTIMONY”. An interesting lexicon entry by Easton’s Bible Dictionary states:

 

Evangelical repentance consists of (1) a true sense of one’s own guilt and sinfulness; (2) an apprehension of God’s mercy in Christ; (3) an actual hatred of sin (Psalms 119:128; Job 42:5,6; 2co 7:10) and turning from it to God; and (4) a persistent endeavour after a holy life in a walking with God in the way of his commandments.

The true penitent is conscious of guilt (Psalms 51:4,9), of pollution (51:5,7,10), and of helplessness (51:11; 109:21,22). Thus he apprehends himself to be just what God has always seen him to be and declares him to be. But repentance comprehends not only such a sense of sin, but also an apprehension of mercy, without which there can be no true repentance (Psalms 51:1; 130:4).”

 

     We’ll see……

Peace to you,

Ovadyah