Joel Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell Pt.2 Monday, Sep 28 2009 

****IMPORTANT****DO NOT CONFRONT THE SO-CALLED “PROPHETS” AT BETHANY ANYMORE!! JOEL ADMITTED TO USING VIOLENCE(HERE) TO SUPPRESS CONFRONTATIONS! HE EVEN LAUGHED AT THE “BEATDOWN”SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY BY THE HAND AND FLEE TO SAFETY!! AGAIN DO NOT CONFRONT THEM********

SERIOUSLY DO NOT CONFRONT THE CORRUPT PRIESTS ANYMORE!! FLEE!!

GET BACK IN YOUR SEAT BOY!!

In part one(CLICK HERE), we applied the exact same double-standard to Joel Stockstill’s wife and the defendants cried foul. Why? Their claim was the same, Joel is above God’s Law, we’re aren’t to condemn whites(one standard for blacks another less critical for whites).

This hypocrisy is made evident by Joel Stockstill’s own admission! Remember the harsh standard he applied to M.J.? Well, HE DIDN’T APPLY IT TO HIS ALL WHITE BAND(HERE, called MUTEMATH)!! In fact, he admits that this all white rock-and-roll band is addicting to listen to. In his twitter entry on SEPT. 04, 2009 he states(click here):

“ok, im not big on any music that isn’t worship but the new Mutemath cd rocks! cant get enough!”10:38 PM Sep 4th from web

Wow….!! What a double standard! As his history clearly shows, if people in his black congregation start complaining, one or two things will happen when they confront him:

  1. He, like his daddy Lying Larry, will quickly point out their “disclaimer”

298_mutemath

Those who attend this cult where beatings are issued to anyone who contests Bethany’s Prophets please take my advice. DON’T CONFRONT THEM ANYMORE!! SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY AND LEAVE!! AGAIN DON’T CONFRONT THEM!! YOU’RE IN DANGER!!

Now, back to The Stockstill’s second damage-control tactic. Joel always places small disclaimers in his statements:

  1. politicians do the same to re-direct money in their pockets
  2. used car salesmen place them in their contracts to get you stuck with a clunker
  3. cellphone companies do the same to hit you with extra charges
  4. These “as seen on T.V.” pitch-men use disclaimers to push their faulty products
  5. Insurance companies use disclaimers to deny coverage after you’ve paid for years

IT’S A SCAM!! Joel’s disclaimer above will certainly be used as a disclaimer to those who see his JIM CROW STANDARD. Joel Stockstill stated, “OKAY, I’M NOT BIG ON MUSIC THAT ISN’T WORSHIP BUT…..”. Don’t fall for it, he totally cancels that disclaimer by the conjunction “BUT…”. He clearly used a double standard for this all white band.

If he used his white-standard on Michael Jackson nobody would’ve had a problem BUT just like he did with Palin/McCain during the campaigns, whites are always right according to his grading curve but blacks have to be perfect!!

This all white band that Joel finds addicting admits THEY CALL RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY A “BARRIER” to music YET Joel Called them “CAN’T GET ENOUGH(click here)”:

For us, we just try to keep it simple. We’re obviously a band; that’s really all we ever wanted to be from the very beginning without catering to any particular genre or political or religious agenda. We just want to make music with no barriers.

Paul MeanyBoise WeeklyApril 11, 2007

On top of this, MUTEMATH SUED TIME WARNER FOR PUTTING THEM IN A CHISTIAN CATEGORY!! This rock band that Bethany’s Prophet finds “addicting” hates Christ so much they actually sued their parent company for marketing them as such!! Now that’s hate for Christ that should be exposed! BUT JOEL TURNS A BLIND EYE AGAIN TO HIS WHITE BROTHERS!! This white rock band said identifying them with Christ “HURT ITS IMAGE”, LOL, and y’all call Joel annointed??!!

“Mutemath has filed suit against their label Warner Bros. for breach of contract and negligent misrepresentation. While in negotiations with the label, they were told their releases wouldn’t carry the Word Records branding, a Christian imprint of Warner. Their first Warner album included the Word logo, which the band felt hurt its image, inspiring them to sue.”

Didn’t your self-proclaimed prophet just rebuke those who indulge in activities where Christ is not present? Did he not just condemn a black musician but later praise these white rock-and-roll musicians??!! This band admitted in the Boise Weekly that if they catered to a religion like Christianity it would be a “BARRIER”. Why is Joel praising this band and not “speaking the truth” as a man of God? The sell-outs at Bethany claim that Joel Stockstill is an annointed Prophet who speaks the truth, yet we continue to see he does so with a DOUBLE STANDARD. White rock-n-roll is praised while blacks like Michael Jackson are shredded to pieces. You wanna see blacks in modern day slavery who know their place? Go to Bethany, LOL. They know what will happen if they step out of line, again, in Joel’s own words “Can you say Big Mike….Beatdown!”.

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

y’all continue to swallow this poison and stay in your place or else….BIG MIKE will put you there!

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Joel Stockstill Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell!! Monday, Jul 6 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE BE UPON THE DISCERNING ONES WHO ESCAPED THE CULT OF BETHANY.COM

 

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy; Even mocking Michael's dead body!

 

I’ll have to say that Joel Stockstill has finally shocked me!  My soul and spirit was just floored at his post. I actually held back the tears to type this response to such an unmerciful and punitive false prophet like Joel Stockstill. He obviously has some sick joy in condemning Michael to hell. I’ll post Joel’s sick and twisted statements in bold and respond under neath. JOEL MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!! I sincerely pray for YOU! You’re treading on dangerous grounds by condemning people to hell! It’s one thing to make yourself a prophet but a whole heresy to place yourelf in GOD’s judgement seat, telling us who is in hell.

 

Joel fails to realise that Michael Jackson was FORCED to grow up. He had no child hood. He was taught during his childhood years to ISOLATE HIMSELF from others. IT WASN’T A CHOICE! Upon reaching adulthood, he only continued what he was taught, ISOLATION. In interview after interview you can hear Michael stating he wished he could be LIKE OTHER KIDS. This obviously effected his self esteem and mental state. On top of all of this, people sought to extort monies from this mealticket. As a result, he turned to narcotics while folks like Bethany’s Prophet Joel Stockstill continued mocking him, EVEN IN DEATH! I don’t know who to feel sorry for Bethany’ so called Prophet Joel or M.J.

 

Upon being asked which song reveals the true Michael Jackson, he(M.J.) replied “The most honest song I’ve ever written is called CHILDHOOD(click here for lyrics), here is a concise quote on Michael’s painful honesty:

“Before you judge me, try hard to love me,
Look within your heart then ask,
Have you seen my Childhood?

People say I’m strange that way
‘Cause I love such elementary things,
It’s been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood I’ve never known…

Have you seen my Childhood?
I’m searching for that wonder in my youth
Like fantastical stories to share
The dreams I would dare, watch me fly…

Before you judge me, try hard to love me.
The painful youth I’ve had

Have you seen my Childhood…”

 

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers!

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers! Father Have Mercy On His Body & Soul. To All of Those who Tortured This Man And Continue To Mock Him, Forgive Them Too!

 

(MY PRAYER)Dear God who renders a righteous judgement. PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON MICHAEL’S SOUL, he was robbed of his childhood and only taught isolation. Hear his cry and pain, hear my plea, forgive those who mock him and enjoy laughing at his tortured body. The priests in your house, dear God, has lost all their senses. They mock the downtrodden and have become superstars. Lying to your sheep and leading them astray. Stealing their money and perverting your Holy Scriptures. Likewise, have mercy on their souls. AMEN.  Here is Joel’s whole blog(click here):

 

“Nothing could more picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purposes and then chew them up and spit them out (straight into hell) like the recent passing of superstar and world-known Michael Jackson.”

 

     Joel, if  we hold you TO THE SAME STANDARD you hold Michael Jackon to, would it not be logical that “nothing could picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purpose and then chew them up and spit them out STRAIGHT INTO HELL” like the passing of your wife Amy Stockstill due to your failed prophecy that Christ would heal her?! Who chewed up and spit out your wife?!

 

      Furthermore, who gave you the authority to condemn Michael Jackson to hell?!  Have you created another double standard or is this for those outside of your cult?  Remember the THIEF ON THE CROSS WITH CHRIST?  Surely in our eyes, he was condemened by GOD AND WENT STRAIGHT TO HELL. But thanks to the Gospels we know at the last minute on an EXECUTION STAKE, Christ forgave him and the condemened was saved and entered PARADISE(Lk. 23:43)!! Yet, you have some sick and twisted joy at condemnation. Even when time for repentance was down to a minimum and he practiced sin his whole life, Christ informed:

 

43  “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

 

Next you stated:

 

“His bald, sickly frame was resting in a coffin and the world tried to regurgitate some good memories about this fallen star and yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world he has entered the place of torment for the beginning of forever.”

 

The world wasn’t trying to “REGURGITATE SOME GOOD MEMORIES”, they were being respectful, merciful, and Christ-like! For you to demean this hurting man as:

 

  1. Bald
  2. Sickly
  3. Fallen
  4. He ha entered the place of torment

Who made you judge of the dead? To all those who remain silent at Bethany, SHAME ON YOU!! You wrote in here at Ovadyah and was quick to condemn me for exposing Joel’s failed prophecy that Christ would heal Amy Stockstill, yet you say nothing about the disrespect for Michael Jackson.

Joel claims that because there was no known “supernatural intervention”  Michael Jackson entered “the place of torment”.  IS THIS HIS DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS AGAIN??!!

 

 LET’S APPLY THIS EXACT SAME STANDARD TO HIS DEAD WIFE, AMY STOCKSTILL!!  Wouldn’t this be fair? Is Joel such a holy prophet in your eyes that he is really untouchable?  You should be scared and afraid to be under such leadership! Let’ look at Joel’s BODY! Who is he to describe ANY PERSON AS SICKLY??!!  If you want to mock ANYONE Joel, just look in the mirror. How would you like it if someone looked into Amy’s coffin and laughed at her bucked up teeth and big ears??!!  You would’ve condemned them to hell like Michael.

 

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill's DEATH BY DISEASE!! Why Is Larry Stockstill Constantly Letting This Clown Stand In God's Judgement Seat?.

 

Look at how he squeezes in “Britney Spears”.  I guess this is the proof that he doesn’t have a doulbe standard for Blacks. Ridiculous!! If he wanted to mock anyone, he should have LOOKED AT HIS OWN SICKLY BODY!  As M.J. said, “start with the man in the mirror”. He doesn’t degrade Britney Spears, he merely mentions her name. He did the same with his annointed Sarah Palin. Anyone see the double standards, one for blacks(Michael Jackson, Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson) and another for whites (Britney Spears, Sarah Palin, Bristol Palin, Oral Roberts)? Bristol Palin did the same thing as Britney Spears BUT JOEL NEVER MENTIONED IT DURING THE ELECTION!!

 

I agree Michael has “questionable”  actions but I REFUSE to put myself in GOD’S JUDGMENT SEAT usurping God’s grace and righteous judgement. Joel YOUR SICKLY BODY  and DEAD WIFE should remind you of that !!  The most disturbing statements came from the kids giving  their Cult Leader nothing but “Amens!” and “Right On” when Joel condemned Michael to hell. He’s turned them into hate mongers with double standards. Bristol Palin never repented during the election for having a teen pregnancy out of wedlock, so why didn’t Joel condemn her??!!

I only read two Comments (From Blake and Amber) that spoke in favor of M.J. and warned everyone of pre-judging without knowing the last moments or mental condition of M.J. However these two folks who spoke out will most likely remain under the authority of Joel. It just amazes me how they tolerate his mockery of Christianity. If not let me know, it’s rare.

 

DAMAGE CONTROL, THRILLER PT.2:

 

Joel quickly wrote another post after condeming Michael Jackson to hell and eternal torment.  Joel Stockstill has no sense of humility. Instead of repenting for clearly doing the wrong thing by condemning Michael Jackson to hell, he rewrites in Part2 that he only stated Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell,THIS IS A PURE LIE!! Joel clearly wrote that Michael Jackson “…HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF FOREVER”. He doesn’t say Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell but “he has entered….”. What type of Character and role model for our children? What a hypocrite and a liar!!

He even mocks those who defended M.J. He made an attempt to prove he initially blogged that M.J. only “possibly” entered hell by quoting his statement(found in Thriller Pt.1):

 

“yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world”

 

Joel, if anyone believes the  fragment you provided is proof that you meant Michael “possibly” entered hell qualifies as gullible and blind.  You completed the above fragment with “HE HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT….”. Are your subjects really that naive?! Are they going to believe this? Why do they ignore the warning signs of this cult? He even mocks those call him “mean ol’ joel” by stating, “THAT HAS A NICE RING TO IT DOESN’T IT?”.  Parents did you hear that?! He loves the label!!

 If anyone studies cults, you’ll find one thing they all have in common with Bethany. Warning signs they should leave BUT ARE TOO INTIMIDATED OR NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO LEAVE.

Joel claims that being under “suspicion” makess you guilty and with that Joel is supposedly taught by Christ this allows us to condemn people to hell. INSANE!!  SUSPICION IS NOT PROOF. Can we condemn YOU TO HELL for being a false prophet?? Can we condemn Amy To hell for not speaking out against the unbiblical rituals Bethany practices(Benny Hinn’ Slain In The Spirit, babbling called tongues), Can we condemn you to hell for abandonding Baton Rouge after Gustav for shopping sprees?  Can we condemn Larry Stocktill to hell for lying to the congregation that he would make the biggest sacrifices during the 20/20 vision and is constantly on vacation? Did you practice fruits of righteousnesss by lying via Jordan Jopling that you went to West Palm Beach For Dialysis only?

IF YOU CAN CONDEMN M.J. TO HELL FOR SUSPICIONS SURELY WE CAN CONDEMN YOU TO HELL FOR STRONG EVIDENCE? Or does your rules only apply to blacks?

One thing history tells us is that many Christians from the Bible to modern times were killed UNDER SUSPICIONS by the governing authorities? According Joel’s standards this was enough to condemn them to hell. I would hate to see you sit in a jury. According to your standards, YOU SHOULD HAVE WEEKEND VISISTS TO HELL!  Surely the thief on the cross led a horrible and unfruitful life yet AGAIN, in his last breath he was saved. WHY NOT FOCUS ON THAT?

Let’s focus on your unfruitfulness!!

  1. FAILED PROPHECIES
  2. ABANDONING B.R. FOR SHOPPING SPREES AFTER GUSTAV DESTROYED BATON ROUGE
  3. QUOTING SCRIPTURE OUT OF CONTEXT
  4. CLAIMING TO HER GOD WHEN IN CONTRADICTS SCRIPTURE
  5. HOLDING A DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS
  6. PRAISING THE GOD OF EASTER(a pagan idol)
  7. ALLOWING JORDAN JOPLING TO LIE FOR YOUR ABSENCE
  8. WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH OF YOUR SICKLY WIFE?
  9. DOULBE STANDARDS, ONE FOR BLACKS AND ONE FOR WHITES

 

According to your standard Joel, YOU’RE OFF TO HELL!!  Where does Joel get his information that he spreads to Bethany? The same anti-minority news channel he quoted during the election, FOX NEWS NETWORK! He’s emulating Republican Rep. King who called Michael Jackson “A PERVERT” due to suspicion only. Rep. King stated “there’s nothing good about this person”. click here for latest.

 

 

Joel The Perfect Prophet or Profit? Wednesday, Mar 11 2009 

Peace Be Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus,

 

Well,  it’s obvious that Joel Stockstill has regained his authority after a failed coup d’etat by supporters of President Barack Obama.  This remnant was successfully divided and conquered; they either fled Bethany(House of Poverty/Misery) or  begged for the forgiveness of the Stockstills.

 

NOW THAT JOEL has regained his power, he restored himself as head teacher and “hearing from the LORD” again. As we know from the death of Amy Stockstill, his wife,  Joel’s prophecy has a 50/50 chance of becoming true. Unfortunately, a man of God who claims to hear God’s voice and exhorts the congregation to obey him HAS TO BE 100 PERCENT CORRECT. This is not a guessing game like the con-artists who sit in front of crystal balls or those televangelists on T.B.N.

 

 Joel even “sounds the trumpet” on his website that he is a “PROPHETIC VOICE TO THIS GENERATION“. Check out the graphic in the upper right hand corner of his blog, talking about vain. These self proclaimed half-right prophets are an embarassment to the Church.

 

MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND DECEIVE MANY(MT.24:11)

MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND DECEIVE MANY(MT.24:11)

 

 However, he’s no different than his father who prophecies about seeing  GOD opening a temporary “WINDOW OF OPPURTUNITY FOR REPENTANCE”. for the Churches. What Larry Stockstill fails to realise it’s not the Churches of America, IT’S HIS DENOMINATION(Neo-Charismatic/Charismatic)!! Ihighly recommend you PROTECT YOUR FAMILY from these Charismatic Cults. Don’t get defensive, check out the references from these Pastors who have been sounding the alarm about the Charismatics before Larry Stockstill’s “dream”  for repentance.

 

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

   ORIGINAL LINK HERE TO “SIGNS AND WONDER CAMP“. As you can see “The Remnant” cry is nothing new, just like I showed with Larry’s 20/20 Vision program the Charismatic Denomination just passes on their money making scams to the next preacher. Joel is the second profile in the article.

 If the  Senior Pastor of Bethany has been wrong with it’s messages and prophecies, WHY SHOULD I NOW BELIEVE YOU ARE RECEIVING A MESSAGE FROM GOD??!!  Larry Stockstill is just like his son, A FALSE PROPHET!! He admits to the church being the problem and need for repentance but NEVER GAVE THIS GRACE TO TED HAGGARD but banished him. Yet, when Larry’s the problem he calls for everyone to gather around him and believe his prophecies/dreams. FALSE PROPHETS HAVE ARRIVED!!  It was in plain site. They waited until they got many people to become members and then proclaim themselves Prophets, LOL. Y’all slick!! And just in time for his book, The Remnant. If God is truly showing Larry Stockstill Judgment Day on America, WHY IS HE VACATIONING IN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN GREECE??!! He claims Pastors are the problem because they’re carrying on as normal, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!! Get off vacation!

 

Joel’s statement is interesting because before stating what “The Lord says” he first let’s his congregation know that he’s turning thirty(30) on March 12, 2009. He correlates his age(30) with PERFECTION and snags proof-texts out the bible. Joel from his proof-texts goes on to call this Birth Day celebration a “…VERY SPIRITUAL MILESTONE”. 

 

The problem is found in his next statement which is the basis of both his and his father’s(Larry Stockstill’s) rule for dishonest bible study EVERYTIME  they open that Holy Book,i.e., “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, WE SEE THAT….”.  This is a huge problem with the Stockstills and a major violation for any exegete. You can make the Scriptures say anything you want, “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL….”. The verses he yanks out of context are not didactic passages on the number thirty(30) as proof  this number is associated with perfection. In fact, in the Jewish context of Christ it’s the number seven that is associated with perfection!! I’ll save that study for the bottom but first let’s look at Joel’s supposed evidence that his turning 30 is perfection and/or a very spiritual milestone.

  1. (Joel)-JESUS STARTED HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY AT 30.

FALSE: Christ did not start his ministry “AT” age 30 but APPROXIMATELY/ABOUT age 30, it’s an estimate not an exact. Luke 3:23 is the closest evidence we have for guessing Christ’s age when He began his ministry. Here’s the verse:

 

  23     JESUS,   WHEN   HE   BEGAN   HIS   MINISTRY,   WAS   ABOUT   THIRTY   YEARS
      Καὶ1   Ἰησοῦς4   5   αὐτὸς2   ἀρχόμενος5       ἦν3   ὡσεὶ6   τριάκοντα8   ἐτῶν7
      Kai   Iēsous       autos   archomenos           ēn   hōsei   triakonta   etōn
      C   NNSM       PPNSM   VPNSMPD           VF3SIIA   T   MGPN   NGPN
      2532   2424       846   756           1510   5616   5144   2094
  OF   AGE,   BEING   THE   SON   (AS   WAS   SUPPOSED)   OF   JOSEPH,   THE   SON   OF   HELI,  
      ὢν9     υἱός10   ὡς11     ἐνομίζετο12     Ἰωσὴφ13   τοῦ14       Ἠλὶ15  
          ōn       huios   hōs       enomizeto       Iōsēph   tou           Ēli  
          VPNSMPA       NNSM   T       VF3SIID|VF3SIIP       NGSM   RGSM           NGSM  
          1510       5207   5613       3543       2501   3588           2242  
Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 3:23). Logos Research Systems, Inc.
I supplied an interlinear version to show you the greek text along with it’s English version. Please take notice TO THE DETAILS which Joel and his daddy love to leave out!! The greek word that “HOSEI” modifies “TRIAKONTA ETON(30YEARS). The original author is informing us that he is not sure of the EXACT AGE OF CHRIST but that Christ was “HOSEI(ABOUT)” 30.
The author of the Gospel of Luke uses this approximating again at LUKE 9:14-
  14   For   there   were   about   five   thousand   men.   And   he   said   to   his  
      γὰρ2     ἦσαν1   ὡσεὶ3     πεντακισχίλιοι5   ἄνδρες4   δὲ7     εἶπεν6   πρὸς8   αὐτοῦ11  
      gar       ēsan   hōsei       pentakischilioi   andres   de       eipen   pros   autou  
      T       VF3PIIA   T       MNPM   NNPM   C       VF3S2IA   EA   PPGSM  
      1063       1510   5616       4000   435   1161       3004   4314   846  
disciples,   “Have   them   sit   down   in   groups   of   about  
τοὺς9 μαθητὰς10   12   αὐτοὺς13   κατακλίνατε12       κλισίας14   17   ὡσεὶ15  
tous mathētas       autous   kataklinate           klisias       hōsei  
RAPMNAPM       PPAPM   VF2PAVA           NAPF       T  
35883101       846   2625           2828       5616  
fifty   each.”  
πεντήκοντα17   ἀνὰ16  
pentēkonta   ana  
MAPN   EA|D  
4004   303  

Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 9:14). Logos Research Systems, Inc.

 

 

The original gospel’s author is approximating again. The author is not saying he was present during this feeding!! In fact we are not sure who the author of this Gospel is. The name Luke was placed on this gospel because a second century document called the MURATORIAN CANON did so. FURTHERMORE, the author approximates because he is NOT AN EYEWITNESS but rather went and “investigated(LUKE 1:3)” everything so that a person by the name of THEOPHILUS would know about what the actual EYEWITNESSES passed on to him. As a result, Luke gives numbers and dates as “about” and not exactly.

So for Joel we see how cults have successfully con the naive out of money (as Larry Stockstill did with 2Sam.24:24 calling it a Capital Campaign) and how THEY CLAIM TO BE PERFECT (though have a history of failed prophecies like Amy’s death). It’s because they leave out the details while inserting their LIES!!! Like Hank Hangergraaf at the Christian Research Institute says about Televangelists, “They use the skin of truth and stuff it full of lies!!”. See his articles at WWW.EQUIP.ORG

This is not a teaching passage on the number thrity. Joel you are abusing the Holy Scriptures to exhalt your minsitry to “perfection”. Luke is not intending to show the number 30 to be an exact number of perfection. This is merely a NARRATIVE that informs the reader “…WAS ABOUT THIRTY”. The context and the author betrays your suggestion about the number thirty.

As far as your equating David’s age at the time he became King of Judah, nothing in the immediate context suggests that perfection was involved. In fact, David was chosen and annointed at a much younger age, He slew Goliath at a younger age, so……?? In the mind of a Hebrew(which Christ came as and King David is) the number SEVEN is associated with perfection NOT THIRTY. As Easton’s Bible Dictionary  THAT THE  APPEARANCES OF THE NUMBER SEVEN  “…sufficiently prove the importance of this sacred number”.

If I used the eisegesis of The Stockstill’s, that would mean that since Christ was betrayed with 30 pieces of silver, it proves that Joel will further betray his congregation when he turns 30. That would be ridiculous just as Joel’s 30 of perfection is dubious.

OR

Again, using Joel’s rules for bible study one would be allowed at teaching since Ezekiel(1:1) was exiled in the 30th. year it means that Joel’s congregation will finally exile him to Babylon.  If the age of 30 was that significant Joel shouldn’t have been a minister until age 30!!  According to his preaching about age 30, this means he’s been out of the will of God, jumping into ministry to early.

As the economy gets worse and the church becoming a laughing stock due to it’s leaders receiving gifts, watch how the leaders of 220 lavish their Prophet for his birthday. Which member of the congregation was ever granted such gifts as this?

joel1

  1. Official Kobe Bryant Jersey
  2. Courtside Tickets to Lakers vs. Spurs Game
  3. Roundtrip Plane Tickets to San Antonio
  4. The same for “Jonathan and Jared”
  5. A Brand New Fully Loaded Honda Four-Wheeler

    Wow, I remember driving through Baker, La. lastweek and was saddened at the poverty these Christians are forced to live in while their perfected prophet at 30 gets the royal treatment after abandoning them during Gustav for West Palm Beach!!!  Also, it’s amazing how absolutely Bethany didn’t honor any Civil Rights Leader during Black History Month but these folks lavished their deity(Joel) with gifts.

  

JOEL, ADONAI WILL TAKE HIS REVENGE ON YOU AND YOUR LEADERS!! YOU NEED TO WAKE UP!! YOUR LEADERS ARE WRONG FOR TAKING MONEY FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS FOR YOUR PERSONAL ENRICHMENT!! YOU LEADERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR COERCING THESE KIDS!!

It shouldn’t suprise us, we see how Jordan Jopling lies for him. In my other article, Jordan Jopling, Liar, Liar, I showed how he clearly fabricated the reason for Joel having to vacation in West Palm Beach while everyone else was struggling during Gustav. Now Jordan Jopling takes the offensive instead of  reacting to possible negative comments. He has clearly learned from the past incidents at Bethany. Jordan rationalizes the material gifts that Joel received with the weak cause….

 

(What follows must be read with the understanding that Pastor Joel is a huge basketball, NBA, and Lakers fan:-).)

 

So I guess all of these “GIFTS”(as Prosperity Televangelists call them) are okay. Thanks Jordan, it was also good to see you standing there in agreement.  I can’t believe y’all actually put this on the W.W.W. much less video. I’m so glad GOD woke me up. This is exactly what went on. 

If you listened carefully, the M.C. introducing Joel’s perfect prophet at 30 B-Day Bash, informs the teens at the 36second mark THAT THEIR monies was redirect to Joel’s B-Day Bash. That’s actually a crime. Donations such as offerings & tithes are not to be used for personal enrichment. After hyping up the crowd the M.C. holding the microphone informs the teens:

 

“(starting at 36 second mark) WHAT YOU GUYS DON’T KNOW is that …

  1. Pastor Joel’s Birthday is next Thursday, March 12
  2. He turns 30 years old
  3. And he’s gonna watch the Lakers play in his jersey
  4. YOU BOUGHT HIM

 

Okay did anybody catch that last phrase about what they “DON’T KNOW”??!! Again, “YOU BOUGHT…”. LOL, boy they are slick. They pump the crowd up and slide in the purchase they didn’t know they spent their money on.

Bethany’s Encounter Pt.2-Slain In The Spirit Tuesday, Dec 23 2008 

Peace And Grace Upon You, I Pray That The Deceivers Have Not Seduced You From Your Local Churches and Now Have You In Their Grasp. I Pray For Your Safety And Discernment During Bethany’s “Encounters” And That Your Family Won’t Fall Prey To Their Cultic Isolations and Practices!

 

 

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     Hank Hanergraaf of the Christian Research Institute has been sounding the alarm about this dangerous and unbiblical ritual when it appeared in the Pensacola/Brownsville Revival. As we have seen from Charisma Magazine, these cult leaders are a band of traveling con-artist. It’s sad to see Bethany has not only welcomed these men (Steve Hill, David Yonggi Cho,etc.) but have adopted their “weird practices” which Larry Stockstill claimed on his blog to abandon. This occultic ritual was popularized by Prosperity Televangelist Benny Hinn. Click here for one of many episodes.

 

     I highly recommend Hank Hanergraaf’s book, Counterfeit Revival, which has conducted extensive research about this travelling cult and it’s coercion tactics which are not only unbiblical but very dangerous!! PROTECT YOUR FAMILY!!! Here is a sample from Chapter-19’s “SEVEN SCRIPTURAL PRETEXTS”

 

“Ex-Domincan priest Father Francis MacNutt not only creates credibility for the slain in the spirit phenomennon by pointing to QUAKERS and SHAKERS in past revivals, but he also points to movers and shakers in the present revival. In Overcome By The Spirit, he writes, ‘in Protestant revivals, as we have seen, many people trembled and shook. So, too, in our day, the shaking phenomenon occurs in John Wimber’s conferences’. MacNutt points out that at one time Wimber was a Quaker pastor and presumes that the “shaking phenmenon is part of John’s spiritual heritage”.

Wimber himself, HOWEVER, focuses on Scripture rather than on his spiritual heritage as a Quaker. In 1981 Wimber(the founder of the International Association of Vineyard Churches) preached a series of sermons titled “Spiritual Phenomena:SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT”.

In this series Wimber points out that “the model as we’ve seen it ministered out in the land” IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE: ‘There’s no place in the Bible where people were lined up and Jesus or Paul or anyone else went along and bapped them on the head and watched them go down, one after another, and somebody else ran along behind. Can you picture Peter and James-‘Hold it, Hold it, hold it!”- running along behind trying to catch them? And so the model that we’re seeing, either on stage or television, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING THAT’S IN SCRIPTURE(john wimber, “spiritual phenomena: slain in the spirit-part 1, Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Anaheim, Ca, 1981, audiotape).

 

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     Remember how earlier we talked about how important it is to remain in context and proved successfully how Larry Stockstill practiced Eisegesis to get over-and-above donations from the naive(2Sam.24:24). Well, this former Quaker, John Wimber, practices the same flawed Hermeneutics. One of the Scriptures that John Wimber uses to have his disciples practice the occultic “Slain In The Spirit”  is Gen.2:21.

 

21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh.

 

On the same audiotaped sermon(Wimber,Spiritual Phenomena: Slain in the Spirit-Part 1) Wimber insists that translators, who’ve never been “slain in the spirit” are incorrect for translating the hebrew word “YASHEN” in Gen.2:21 as “sleep” because it means to become slack.  Brothers and sisters this is the same type of eisegesis conducted by Connie Williams on Joel’s website about the etymology for Sarah Palin!

Two things should be noted;

  1. The hebrew YASHEN  is not in Gen.2:21
  2. YASHEN still means sleep not “slack” or “to become slack”

 

John Wimber’s deception for this occultic practice is based on lies!  Again, this is the same practice of Bethany. They don’t care what the context of the Chapter is as long as they verse has the right words to appear to support their practices. John Wimber at first told the truth and stated this ritual is not found in Scripture but when it’s popularity caught on, he isolated verses from their context to prove it is biblical. Since Christians didn’t test the ex-Quaker’s prooftext, he continued isolating verses to support his ritual of being “slain in the spirit”. The next six are:

  1. Abram FELL  on his face and God talked to him(Gen.17:3)

 

As Hank documents on Pg.186(Chapter-19, Slain In The Spirit, Seven Scriptural Pretexts) of how Wimber claims the original hebrew in Gen.17:3 for FELL is actually RADAM but it was actually NAPHAL and knowing a good interpreter sticks with the context, Hank elucidates “Furthermore, the Almighty did not cause Abraham to fall through a blow that stupefied and knocked him senseless, rather Abraham fell of his own accord in response to the Majesty of the Almighty. FINALLY, AS HE DID WITH ADAM, WIMBER INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE IN LIGHT EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN INTERPRETING EXPERIENCE IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE”. It should also be noted brothers and sisters that the ENEMIES of God fall backwards as opposed to falling forward like the friends of God do in the Holy Bible.  

Since you can see the abuse of context I’ll simply list the other pre-texts and let you continue studying on your own.

 

2.Acts 10:9-10

3.Acts 9:3-4

4.Rev.1:17

5.John 18:6

 

Remember context is very important to honest interpretation. Isolating sentences from the chapters can be made to say ANYTHING and back up ANY RITUAL.  I’ll leave you with a quote from the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements(Pg. 790-791):

 

“An entire battalion of Scripture proof texts is enlisted to support the legitacy of the phenomenon, ALTHOUGH SCRIPTURE OFFERS NO SUPPORT for the phenomenon AS SOMETHING TO BE EXPECTED IN THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE….From an experiential standpoint it is unquestionable that through the centuries Christians have experienced a psycho-physical phenomenon in which people fall down; morever, they have attributed the experience to God. It is equally questionable that there is NO BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE EXPERIENCE as normative in Christian life. ”

    

      Again, I sincerely pray for your safety. I sincerely ask You Father that these who seek your presence will realize the counterfeits they’ve been exposed to. I also pray ADONAI that Larry Stockstill will truthfully “come back to” sincerity and turn away from these occultic practices, Amen!

Coveting, Stockstill, and 2Sam.24:24(Pt.2) Thursday, Nov 20 2008 

Blessings In The Name of Christ Who Calls Us To On Guard Against The Scams of The Greedy

 

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     In part-1 of this series, I showed how Larry Stockstill follows the flawed hermeneutics of the greedy and corrupt televangelist he commonly quotes and associates with. He abused the Holy Scriptures of 2Sam. 24:24 as a prooftext to covet the monies of the biblical illiterate.

 Larry Stockstill claims the narrative of David is actually a teaching on Capital(money) Campaigns. However, when we follow context and the basic rules of reading comprehension, we discover that the only campaign Larry Stockstill is crusading for is a “Coveting-Campaign”. He himself boasts about having lived a good life.

     Larry Stockstill is not only guilty of misusing the Holy Scriptures to covet money but he and his family don’t even practice what they preach!!  They are just like the Big Bankers/C.E.O.’s who cry to everyone for bail out money while taking trips to NBA games and shopping sprees in West Palm Beach. The first suggestion in his coveting plan is:

 

1. Practice priority budgeting.
 

Many families choose to rearrange their priorities and give up something in their current budgets in order to give more to a capital campaign. Priority budgeting may mean postponing a planned expenditure for such things as a new car, vacation, home remodeling, or other major expenditure. Many Christians giving to capital stewardship campaigns find the means to give through sacrificial commitments made in faith and coupled with priority budgeting.

 

 

     Larry Stockstill further adds that he and his wife are totally committed in making these sacrifices with the congregation:

 

It’s going to take tremendous sacrifice and teamwork to achieve our 20/20 Vision. Melanie and I are prepared to make the greatest commitment to Bethany we have ever made. “

 

   Thus far we see Larry Stockstill calling on the naive to “…give up something in their budgets….” and redirect that money to his capital campaign which “…may mean postponing a planned expenditure for such things as a new car, vacation, home remodeling, or major expenditure”.

     First of all, I couldn’t ask any hard working member in this stress-burdened market to postpone a vacation!! This recreation is much needed for those work long hours and many days to put their kids through college, food on the table,  beat-up cars in tune, and clothes on their family. Larry Stockstill is blatanly speaking as one who is clueless about hard labor and obviously has had the benefit of coveting the income of the church.

     Second of all, Larry Stockstill lies to his naive members while they continue to make sacrifices. Larry claims he and Melanie will likewise give up and postpone things, e.g., a planned expenditures. Yet he himself doesn’t postpone or give up traveling. Imagine how much money he could have contributed instead of coveting from the members by giving up trips overseas. Last year (2007) he traveled to Germany AND Seoul, Korea as was noted on his website Larrystockstill.com. It’s very interesting that like his son Joel Stockstill, he has deleted posts which make such admissions. Remember his son Joel’s deletion of his Anti-Obama posts?

     Larry Stockstill has deleted all posts of his previous travels which were contradicting his preaching for his members to postpone and give vacations during the capital campaing until 2020. However, 2008 is no exception, he states:

 

 

       The most blatant splap-in-the-face to those who deify the Stockstills and naively give over-and-beyond during Larry’s Captital Campaign should be Joel’s statement in his blog posted on Sept. 05, 2008 titled “Wild Week!”

 

 

Boy, has this been crazy week! As many of you know, this week began with the worst hurricane in recent BR history. Hurricane Gustov (i think is how you spell it) came slamming into our lives on Monday Sept. 1. Of course, much to my dismay, we lost power around noon on Monday and stayed out till Fri. night where I live. I was corralled up at my parents house and things were hot and sticky. Nothing worse than no ac!
On Wed. I caught a flight to West Palm Beach and have had a great time here in the air conditioning and going shopping. Today I had the opportunity to hang out with my good friends Jonathan and Christina Miller, who came down from Orlando. We preceded to hit every mall in the area and do some major damage of our own! Amy would be proud of me how I shopped it up today. I thought of her much as I traveled the many stores and malls that she loves so much and made me sit and wait for hours. No one could shop like that girl!
I can tell you all this, and I think I speak for all in the Gulf Coast area, Hurricane season go away and never come back another day! It won’t disappoint me if I never have another week like this one.

 

     That is just amazing!!! He rightly understands that Hurrican Gustav was the “…worst hurricane in recent BR history”.

  1. Did Joel Stockstill make a sacrifice and postpone his vacationing after such a tragic storm with the congregation?
  2. Did Joel Stockstill make a sacrifice and postpone shopping  West Palm Beach shopping spree”?
  3. Did Joel Stockstill make a sacrifice and used his extra time to asssist those in need during Hurricane Gustav’s aftermath?
  4. Did Joel Stockstill make a sacrifice and “rearrange his priorities” (shopping spree, hotel stay, rountrip airfare)?
  5. Did Larry Stockstill forbid Joel Stockstill from “shopping it up” and vacationing in West Palm Beach?
  6. Did Larry Stockstill’s family choose to give up something during this “worst hurricane….”?
  7. When forced to give up A.C. did Joel make the sacrifice and ride it out till the end with the congregation?
  8. When the 220 leaders coerced the kids to contribute to Joel’s B-Day gifts  “rearranging or giving up” something during this campaign?
  9. What does a fully loaded Honda Four Wheeler help Bethany’s capital campaign, 20/20 Vision?
  10. How does roundtrip airfare to San Antonio and courtside tickets for the Stockstill boys strenghten their father’s plea for the congregation to give “OVER AND BEYOND”?

 

      At a time The members of Bethany needed Joel Stockstill the most he abandoned them  for one of the wealthiest and most expesive cities in the United States, i.e., West Palm Beach! Upon arriving at West Palm Beach Joel Stockstill goes on to brag about how  “I SHOPPED IT UP TODAY” and how during this capital campaign when Amy was alive and others were sacrificing he admits “NO ONE COULD SHOP LIKE THAT GIRL!” and strenghthens that statement with how she “…MADE ME SIT FOR HOURS.”.

     Yet the gullible continue to make sacrifices and give over and beyond while the Stockstill’s travel and shop!! The gullibe continue to postpone while the Stockstill’s update their websites AND blogs!! In comparing the poor who continue to give over and beyond with the fine living of the Stockstill’s my heart aches!!

 

Look at the comments naive made to this entry:

  1. Robin Savoy says “There is no better medicine than shopping!”.
  2. Brad Barker says, “Well I hope you shopped til you dropped Pastor Joel…Good to hear from you I was worried!”
  3. Brock Beesely says, “a man after my own heart.”.
  4. Mark and Connie Williams says, “Indeed, Pastor Joel, nothin like a lil shoppin to sooth the soul LOL!”.

 

As recent as Nov.14, 2008(See blog entry, Dr. Oral Roberts) he traveled to San Diego for a “preaching engagement”. Surely this was another trip that could have been postponed?! Or the author of the capital campaign Larry Stockstill when he brags about “traveling the world”.

 

 Larry Stockstill and his children are no different than the big Bankers/C.E.O.’s who cry for bail-out money and continue to lavish themselves with trips to NBA games and countless trips across America. The Stockstills have definitely lived the good life during their cry for bail out money, yet like the big bankers, don’t practice what they preach.

May God continue to visit misery/sickness on Bethany (House of Misery/Poverty).

Rodney Howard Browne And Bethany Thursday, Jul 31 2008 

This article has been updated. I was unaware that the (C)hristian (R)esearch (I)nstitute updated their site and changed the links to their articles on Rodney Howard Browne and The Pensacola/Toronto Revivals. I couldn’t do better research on this Cult and scam artist so I’ll let Hank Hanegraaf’s research remain the source.

 

The C.R.I.’s journal is also on sale at Lifeway Bookstore and Books-A-Million near the Mall of Louisiana. Their latest research is a warning against the book called, “The Shack” where the author has God declaring on Pg. 182 that His son didn’t come to make anyone a Christian. I highly recommend it’s subscription.

Link to Rodney Howard Browne’s Cult:  http://www.equip.org/articles/rodney-howard-browne-and-the-toronto-blessing

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Link in general to search results on all the articles on this cult:

 

http://www.equip.org/search.php?zoom_query=rodney+howard+browne

 

The Christian Research Institute’s book “Counterfeit Revival” on this movement is a biblically based research on how these false prophets lead many away from the Churches into unbiblical rituals like “slain in the spirit” and how Bethany requires their Cell’ leaders to speak in tongues.

 

Just like Larry Stockstill’s book “Laws of Increase”, his teacher Rodney Howard Browne claims the death of Christ not only saves us from sin but also gives us riches http://www.forgottenword.org/browne.html . I have to give credit to Mr. Browne though because he’s not scared to place his TRUE BELIEFS in his doctrinal statements. On the other hand, when you read Bethany’s “what we believe” they only list a very very small generic list. They say nothing about what they believe on the following rituals that constantly take place at Bethany:

 

  1. Speaking In Tongues
  2. Slain In The Spirit
  3. Prosperity Gospel
  4. Won’t acknowledge Black History Month
  5. Teaching On Salvation By Works or Faith
  6. Christians Can Lose Their Salvation
  7. Christians Can Be Demon Possessed
  8. Generational Curses
  9. Endorsing Benny Hinn
  10. Endorsing The Toronto/Pensacola Blessing Cult
  11. Details About Their Real Conversion (Coercion) Process Called “Encounter”
  12. Members Aren’t Given Any Details About Bethany’s Finances Like Other Churches Do
  13. The Truth About Bethany Being A Denomination (Charismatic 3rd. Wave)

 

     They hide so much from the crowd. People attend this cult because their friends attend. It’s like the old Pyramid Scam relabled as a Cell Group.

Counterfeit Revivals of Steve Hill Wednesday, Jul 30 2008 

PEACE AND GRACE IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS WHO WARNED US OF FALSE PROPHETS TO COME!!

 

    Steve Hill (speaker at Bethany’s 220 power conference) is one of the main leaders of the “Pensacola Revival” who was caught in some serious lies! He has claimed that Congressman from the United States goverment have flocked to his revivals, cops have been bringing drug dealers, crime has decreased significantly, all due to his revivals. However, even the police have provided proof that Steve Hill’s claim that crime decreased IS A PURE LIE WITH NO BASIS! This same man has been approved by Larry Stockstill’s Bethany to prey on Christ’s sheep at their past conferences. Parents protect your youth!!

 

     The link below will bring the reader to an outstanding expose’ on lies and scams that Steve Hill has pulled on the naive Christians who seek experiences instead of truth. My prayer is that you equip yourself with God’s Word and protect your family from this dangerous teacher who is approved by Larry Stockstill!

 

     The reader will be directed to the (C)hristian (R)esearch (I)nstitute’s article entitled “The Counterfeit Revival (Part 3) Separating Fact From Fabrication On The Pensacola Outpouring” by Hank Hanergraaf at the following link, pay special attention to the middle of the article’s subsection “Seperating Fact From Fabrication” which interviewed and researched Steve Hill’s claims:

 

Steve Hill’s Counterfeit Revivals  

 

     Most importantly, J.Lee Brady(an editor for Charisma Magazine ) published his experience at Steve Hill’s counterfeit revivals and follow-ups of the results of their claims. It should be noted that Charisma Magazine is an unbiased view which actually is a supporter of the Charismatic Community which produced such disciples. However, their investigations revealed the following article title “What Happened To Brownsville’s Fire? :

 

“I am wondering why the church that hosted hundreds of thousands of visitors has shrunk to a few hundred members and now owes millions of dollars for a building they can’t fill. I am struggling to understand why so many people who once were part of the Brownsville church now feel hurt and betrayed. I am wondering if the leaders of this movement mishandled the anointing of God’s presence like Uzzah did when the ark of God almost toppled on the ground (see 2 Sam. 6:6-8).
 
History shows us that revival is always risky. The devil opposes it, and carnal flesh gets in the way of it. The Holy Spirit is easily quenched by pride, greed, selfish religious agendas and broken relationships.
 
I can’t be the judge of what brought Brownsville’s demise. But we must face the facts and learn some lessons, or we will repeat the scenario next time.”
      
Well, it’s being repeated at Bethany(House of Misery in original Hebrew) right now!!  A response to Charisma Magazine’s ambiguity can be read at Steve Lumbley’s site, APOSTASY WATCH.
    
      Another unbiased article is being preserved/hosted by Rick Ross’s ministry which was originally published by The Pensacola News Journal(1997) entitled “PASTORS ORCHESTRATED FIRST REVIVAL“. It should be noted that The Pensacola News Journal at first published favorable articles on this counterfeit revival until they too (like Charisma Magazine) discovered the scams for themselves.

          In the words of Joel Stockstill at his blog at 220POWER.COM :

 

“The presence of God in the atmosphere is as electric as lightning in the midst of a mighty wind storm. In an instant, lives are changed as the touch of heaven descends like showers rain. Suddenly a roar begins. It is coming from an army of young people charging forward with thunderous momentum. They are bursting forth from the flood gates with the hurricane force of the Holy Spirit.”

     Are you ready? Well for only $25.00 which is not the cost BUT “The cost of EARLY registration….”. The conference with Steve Hill is hosted by Bethany twice(June 17-19 2008, July 8-10). If you can’t afford to be there maybe you can purchase the DVD that recorded “The presence of God in the atmosphere….” for the following list prices at Bethany’s online store:

 

 

     These men false prophets feed on people’s ignorance and dwell on their emotions instead of their logic. As a result, experience and not knowledge of Scripture is the key to an “encounter with GOD”.  They hold on to the latest fad and give disguise it with church clothes so the world can be comfortable. They pretend that thousands upon thousands are being saved YET reality shows that thousands upon thousands are doing ungodly things. If we hold these men to their numbers which they put forth everyone in Baton Rouge should be saved and producing godly fruit. However it’s all for profit, charging admissions fees to enter GOD’s presence with conference after conference.

 

“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                 

Larry Stockstill’s Prooftexting Fallacy Tuesday, May 6 2008 

     PROOFTEXTING:

     One of the tools Prosperity Televangelist abuse to covet believers valuables is Scripture itself.   They will constantly use the “proof text” method when interpreting Scripture.  For example,  televangelist will start with their own desires and then seek verses that appear to support their authority. A believer should instead research what Scripture says about a particular topic and adjust their lives to its authority and not force Scripture to submit to our authority. An decent method of interpreting Scripture is the Inductive Bible Study method. This method seeks to understand the biblical author’s instended meaning versus a preconceived plan to justify a desire. There are several good books in the Christian academic field.  Please do not skip this section as I want you to sharpen your skills and become a Christian reader with integrity and not follow eisegesis of these televangelists.

 

     The first  quote is from Grant R. Osborne’s(Ph.D, Univ. of Aberdeen) Hermeneutical Spiral(Pg.19, Chapter-1, Context):

 

“The first stage in serious bible study is to consider the larger context within which a passage is found. Unless we can grasp the whole before attempting to dissect the parts, interpretation is doomed from the start. Statements simply have no meaning apart from their context. If I say, ‘Give it all you got,’ you would rightly query, ‘What do you mean by IT?’ and ‘How do I rightly do so?’ Without a situation to give the command content, it becomes meaningless. In Scripture the context provides the situation behind the text”.

 

     The second quote is from Kay Arthur’s “How To Study Your Bible:

 

“(Pg.61, The Search for meaning) When you know God’s Word thoroughly, you will not accept a teaching simply because someone has used one or two isolated verses to support that teaching.”

“(Pg.64) When we ascribe meaning to a passage that the author did not intend, then we are assuming an authority equivalent to that of the author. And the author of all Scripture is really God”.

 

     In other words, if we remove or ignore certain verses while reading Scripture that do not favor our preconceived ideas, we have corrupted the Word of God.  As a result, the Christian will hear many interpretations over one verse. Why? because the whole was ignore!

 

     Now read the article on how Larry Stockstill employs the “proof texting” fallacy to engage his capital campaign or more properly his “20/20 Vision” plan. If you scroll to the bottom you will see “MAKING AN OVER AND ABOVE GIFT TO GOD” brochure link.   See the next article on Larry’s use of 2Sam. 24:24