Worry About Tithing NOT JUSTICE AND MERCY??!! Monday, Dec 14 2009 

WELL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IT’S TIME TO BE SHOCKED AGAIN BY THE CULT OF BETHANY WORLD PRAYER CENTER, PLEASE PRAY FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO BLIND GUIDES LEADING OUR CHILDREN INTO DITCHES!     

      

     

Jesus Said DON’T WORRY About Justice, Mercy, And Faith(30:23) if you ain’t even learn to tithe”, Joel Stockstill.

      

Joel’s latest sermon has confirmed that his Black Remnant is either illiterate or or place Joel Stockstill in a holier place than their Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. Joel Stockstill has received complaints that Christ Jesus didn’t command us to tithe. After assuring his Black Remnant the answer is “YES”, Joel asks for Matthew 23:23 to be placed on the big screen. I’ll use the EXACT SAME english version of the greek text that Joel used to quote from.   

(Please note:  Please read it carefully and slowly and allow the context of the oppressive nature of the Pharisees and Lawyers on the poor that Christ constantly chastised their group for. Also cross reference other situations where Christ rebuked the leaders like Joel for burdening the people with unmerciful demands instead of helping them;  Here it is:     

      

23 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest part of your income, but YOU IGNORE THE IMPORTANT THINGS OF THE LAW justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but you should not leave undone the more important things(Mt.23:23, NLT).     

      

Now Joel’s Version”(Minutes 30:16-26). He’s saying DON’T WORRYABOUT JUSTICE, MERCY, AND FAITH(30:23) IF you ain’t even learned to tithe”     

      

Joel’s version of Jesus claims that Christ IS NOT CONCERNED about:     

  1. JUSTICE-The principle or ideal of just dealing and right action
  2. MERCY- Compassion or a blessing that is an act of divine favor
  3. FAITH– Complete trust.

      

This is Amazing!! Right before their very eyes, Joel misquotes Scripture to prove to them Jesus stated that TITHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUSTICE, MERCY, AND FAITH! Poor Christ and His true words.      

Leaven and Burdens of The Pharisees:

Christ condemns the Pharisees in Joel’s proof-text because they  not only required the tithe BUT REQUIRED TITHES ON OTHER agriculture NOT LISTED in God’s law.  The (U)nited (B)ible (S)ocieties’ (T)ranslators (H)andbook informs potential translators:     

[Page 716] According to Deuteronomy 14.23, grain, wine, and olive oil were required to be tithed, though there is no mention of the requirement to tithe seasoning herbs such as mint and dill and cummin. It is possible though that this regulation was imposed by the Pharisaic interpretation of the Law. Newman, B. M., & Stine, P. C. (1992). A handbook on the Gospel of Matthew. Originally published: A translator’s handbook on the Gospel of Matthew, c1988. UBS helps for translators; UBS handbook series (716). New York: United Bible Societies.

      

Christ warned the crowds ahead of time of these burdens in the EXACT SAME CHAPTER(using Joel’s version of the greek text again)     

      

Mt.23:4 They crush you with impossible religious demands and never lift a finger to help ease the burden.     

      

These Pharisees forced people to give over and beyond what the Bible teaches YET THEY DON’T PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH! Just like The Stockstills who:     

  1. Require The Poor To Make Financial Sacrifices BUT THEY TRAVEL ABROAD and SPEND WITHOUT DISCRETION
  2. Require The Poor To Tithe(their version not the bible) money even if they can’t afford it, yet they claim to tithe from the church’s abundance.
  3. Coerce The Poor To Tithe every paycheck not just the first[fruit]
  4. Require the poor to tithe and never question what Bethany is doing with it
  5. Require the poor to tithe even if they flush it down the toilet!

      

Christ condemned such Pharisaic oppression on the people. Again, the U.B.S. Translators Handbook informs potential translators:     

 “They bind heavy burdens is a figure that suggests that the way the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees required people to do many difficult things to fulfill the law was like giving them heavy loads to carry. For some the biblical form will be relatively well understood, as in TEV: “They tie onto people’s backs loads that are heavy and hard to carry.” Other translators will use comparisons of some sort; for example, “They force people to obey difficult rules that are like burdens on their backs.” Another possibility is to drop the image altogether, as in “They oblige people to do very difficult things” or “They give people many obligations that are difficult to carry out.” TEV Today’s English Version Newman, B. M., & Stine, P. C. (1992). A handbook on the Gospel of Matthew. Originally published: A translator’s handbook on the Gospel of Matthew, c1988. UBS helps for translators; UBS handbook series (703). New York: United Bible Societies.     

      

Joel’s version of Jesus has once again sided with the oppressing Pharisees and Teachers of The Law. The IVP  Background To The New Testament agrees with Christ, ” his point is that they should have learned justice, mercy and covenant faithfulness first “(9:13; 12:7 Keener, C. S., & InterVarsity Press. (1993). The IVP Bible background commentary : New Testament (Mt 23:23). Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press.”     

THE TITHE RE-DEFINED AGAIN!

When was the last time the tithes and offerings were brought from The Stockstills' Storehouse and Sent To God? According to Scripture it should be burnt to send up in smoke! In fact, when has The Stockstill followed ANY OF GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS ON how to consume the tithes, offerigs, sacrifices?

As noted in the first post on Bethany’s version of the tithe, they’ve redefined it to mean ONLY MONEY given weekly and/or monthy. Yet have neglected on what God’s words says about who enjoys the tithes. It’s not the Priest alone! Again, for an exegetical study on the tithe and it’s abuse by televangelist like Joel, read the informative study by Russel Earl Kelley(PhD) at http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/     

A final reminder and confirmation that Christ was NOT TEACHING his disciples to neglect Justic, Mercy, and Faith:     

  Warnings About Experts in the Law(NET VERSION, GOSPEL OF MARK)     

  12:38 In his teaching Jesus also said, “Watch out for the experts in the law. They like walking around in long robes and elaborate greetings in the marketplaces, 12:39 and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. 12:40 They devour widows’ property, and as a show make long prayers. These men will receive a more severe punishment.”     

  12:41 Then he sat down opposite the offering box, and watched the crowd putting coins into it. Many rich people were throwing in large amounts. 12:42 And A POOR WIDOW CAME and put in two small copper coins, worth less than a penny. 12:43 He called his disciples and said to them, “I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the offering box than all the others. 12:44 For they all gave out of their wealth. But she, out of her poverty, put in what she had to live on, everything she had.”

   

  

      

Christ is NOT CONGRATULATING THE PHARISEES and LAWYERS for oppressing the poor widow! Christ forewarns his disciples how the Pharisees and Lawyers oppress the poor(Mk.12:38). The term “experts of the law” represented the leaders who were suppose to interpret God’s Word for the people. Yet, out of their greed like JOEL STOCKSTILL THEY DEVOUR…(v.40)”     

      

Joel forgot the advice Paul gave to the Overseers of The Church,i.e., it’s better to give than receive. These words weren’t addressed to the congregation, THEY WERE TO THE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH!     

Acts20:28 Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers,to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son. 20:29 I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 20:30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them. 20:31 Therefore be alert, remembering that night and day for three years I did not stop warning each one of you with tears.     

 20:32 And now I entrust you to God and to the message of his grace. This message is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. 20:33 I have desired no one’s silver or gold or clothing. 20:34 You yourselves know that these hands of mine provided for my needs and the needs of those who were with me. 20:35 By all these things, I have shown you that by working in this way we must help the weak, and remember the words of the Lord Jesus that he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”    

       

I understand that many of my brothers and sisters are unable to afford the commentaries and other works by the translators who produced our english bible. So I’ll add one more for your benefit to motivate you to conduct your own research:     

 23:23 “you tithe mint and dill and cummin”     

“NT believers must be careful of turning Christianity into a new legal performance oriented code (Christian Talmud). Their desire to be pleasing to God causes them to try to find guidelines for every area of life. However, theologically it is dangerous to pull old covenant rules which are not reaffirmed in the NT and make them dogmatic criteria especially when they are claimed to be causes or promises of prosperity!     

In their legalism, they counted even the smallest spices so as to give precisely ten percent to God, but they neglected justice, love, and fidelity. The New Testament does not speak of tithing except here. The heart of New Testament giving is not found in a percentage (cf. II Cor. 8–9)! Utley, R. J. D. (2000). Vol. Volume 9: The First Christian Primer: Matthew. Study Guide Commentary Series. Marshall, Texas: Bible Lessons International.     

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Joel’s Tithe And Abuse of Authority Thursday, Dec 10 2009 

I PRAY THAT YOUR DEDICATION IS NOT TO THE COERCION TACTICS OF MAN BUT TO SOLA SCRIPTURA  AND ITS AUTHOR!!

 

Joel's Version Of Jesus Has Once Again Congratulated Him On Perverting The Scriptures And Coercing Christians Out Of Their Money!

 

  BEFORE YOU OVER-BLESS YOUR FAMILY, BLESS MINE….

  Well, it’s that time of the year again at Bethany. The time when people start focusing on blessing their children with gifts, spending extra on big Family Meals, traveling in and out of state for re-unions, donating to charities, and for the unfortunate paying those high utitily heating bills. The Stockstills, Joel in particular, has presented another sermon on tithing just in case folks dare not bless his family more and before they start re-directing their 10%. See Here, “The Test”, Joel Stockstill’s Sermon

DON’T QUESTION ME ABOUT YOUR TITHES….

WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU QUESTION JOEL RIGHT? REMEMBER HIS BRAGGING ABOUT A BEATING DOWN SOMEONE IN CHURCH! SO....TAKE HIS ADVICE LITERALLY, DON'T QUESTION HIM! https://225br.wordpress.com/joel-almost-beatdown-during-service/

One of the most disturbing points of  Joel’s sermon comes at the minute marks (14:28-15:22) where He instructs the Tithers to give without holding ministers accountable?! You will not find a Church with intergrity who will agree with that! That is a red flag that your money is being misappropriated and abused for personal-enrichment. Any NON-PROFIT Organization(churches, charities, hospitals, etc.) will and DOES PROVIDE their donors with:

  1. HOW MUCH WAS COLLECTED
  2. HOW THE DONATIONS WERE DISTRIBUTED
  3. THE COST SPENT ON TRIPS,  DINNERS, PLANE TRIPS, HOTELS
  4. PASTORS’ SALARIES
  5. UTILITIES

 

Our historical civil-rights churches practice this type of honesty and  not the DOUBLE-STANDARD that Joel’s predominately Black Congregation submits to.  Joel’s only defense, which he provides no biblcal reference for, is that

“(14:10-14:47)…THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH WILL GIVE AN ACCOUNTING TO GOD FOR THEIR STEWARDSHIP.”

 

 

 ***WARNING****AGAIN, TAKE JOEL’S COMMANDMENT NOT TO QUESTION HIM LITERALLY. HE ALREADY BRAGGED ABOUT HAVING BIG MIKE BEAT DOWN A BROTHER IN CHURCH(CLICK HERE). IF YOU’RE NEW, YOU MUST REALIZE THE CONGREGATION SEES HIM AS A BIBLICAL PROPHET WHO IS NOT TO BE QUESTIONED OR APPROACHED WITH CONCERNS. *******WARNING**********

 

 

JUST TRUST ME, I HAVE MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS:

He goes on to give his just-trust-me promise that he stays up at night trying be honest in his spending. IF HE WAS THAT WORRIED, WHY NOT SIMPLY(like other churches) PRODUCE A BREAKDOWN AS NOTED ABOVE(1.-5).  I remember attending the HEALING PLACE Church near Blue Bayou and in the main entrance they had A FULL COLORED BROCHURE ON ALL THEIR COLLECTIONS AND A PIE CHART on how it was distributed.

They don’t oppress AND dominate their congregation with “Do As I Say Without Holding Me Accountable“. In their honesty, they publicly published their total financial contributions and distributions. The shocking thing, it was not isolated for MEMBERS ONLY, it was in the main entrance FOR ANYONE TO READ and even had a way to contact someone if you had CONCERNS!!  In contrast Joel States:

 

Joel, God's Untouchable Prophet??!!

“But whether or not THE MONEY IS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET OR NOT, should have nothing to do with our willingness to be obedient to the commandment of God(15:11-15:22)

 

A GOOD STEWARD DOESN’T INVEST BLINDLY:

WOW….Joel told his congregation whether he chooses to flush the money “…DOWN THE TOILET OR NOT” should not prevent them from obeying God’s commandments on giving him 10% of their paychecks. Ironically, that’s just what’s happending to their money! Joel says they SHOULD OBEY God’s commandments BUT he has another standard. Why doesn’t Joel let the congregation be accountable to God like he does?

Joel has contradicted his own sermon in a mere 15 minutes. He used the Bible to coerce 10%  out of the majority black congregation but THEN ABANDON’S THE BIBLE AND CLAIMS HE’S NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THEM, ONLY GOD!!!  Since Joel knows that to be untrue he can not find a Scripture to back up his Give-Blindly commandment. So, he tells a  tale about correcting someone for challenging their preacher.

Obviously, this is a TOTAL CONTRADICTION IN BEING A GOOD STEWARD. A Good Steward knows how his donations are being used and ensure that He/She is not contributing to a deliquency. THERE’S THAT DOUBLE-STANDARD AGAIN,  Do as I say…..not as I do! If God sees us contributing to a ministry that claims to be UNTOUCHABLE PROPHETS and are abusing donations, that’s a TOTAL CONTRADICTION in good stewardship. Joel make up your mind…be a good steward or not? If we are called to be good stewards, your give-blindly sermon shows the congregations needs to stop!!

 

THE TITHER ENJOYS PART OF THAT TITHE GIVEN

Joel’s sermon from the start heads in the wrong direction because he re-defined the biblical word.  The tithe was NEVER MONEY but produce for the Levitcal Priesthood’s sacrificial system where these offereings were enjoyed by the tither, his family, the orphan, and God. It should be noted the biblical definition of “giving to God” was SENDING THE TITHE/OFFERING/SACRIFICE UP IN SMOKE VIA FIRE. That’s right….it was consumed as an aroma into the heavens. It was the crooked Priests who kept the tithe for themselves instead of consuming it with fire to God. So Joel if you want to use bible-words then ensure you use bible-definitions. The words alone are just the SKIN OF TRUTH that Joel FILLS WITH LIES.

 

  14:22 You must be certain to tithe28 all the produce of your seed that comes from the field year after year.

 14:23 In the presence of the Lord your God YOU MUST EAT FROM THE TITHE of your grain, your new wine,29 your olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the place he chooses to locate his name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

14:24 When he30 blesses you, if the31 place where he chooses to locate his name is distant, 14:25 you may convert the tithe into money, secure the money,32 and travel to the place the Lord your God chooses for himself.

14:26 ThenYOU MAY SPEND THE MONEY HOWEVER YOU WISH for cattle, sheep, wine, beer, or whatever you desire. YOU AND YOUR HOUSEHOLD MAY EAT THERE in the presence of the Lord your God and enjoy it.

 14:27 As for the Levites in your villages, you must not ignore them, for they have no allotment or inheritance along with you. 14:28 At the end of every three years you must bring all the tithe of your produce, in that very year, and you must store it up in your villages.

14:29 Then the Levites (because they have no allotment or inheritance with you), the resident foreigners, the orphans, and the widows of your villages may come and eat their fill so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work you do.

 28 28 tn The Hebrew text uses the infinitive absolute for emphasis, indicated in the translation by the words “be certain.” 29 29 tn This refers to wine in the early stages of fermentation. In its later stages it becomes wine (יַיִן, yayin) in its mature sense. 30 30 tn Heb “the Lord your God.” See note on “He” in 14:2. 31 31 tn The Hebrew text includes “way is so far from you that you are unable to carry it because the.” These words have not been included in the translation for stylistic reasons, because they are redundant. 32 32 tn Heb “bind the silver in your hand.” Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Dt 14:22-29). Biblical Studies Press.

So, we see from Scripture that the produce of the land NOT MONEY was to STORED UP. It was to help the Temple Priesthood in their daily blood sacrifices and burnt offerings….of which the tither also got to consume with his family, along with the orphans and widows. THEIR TITHES WERE NOT GIVEN SOLEY TO THE PRIESTHOOD BUT (((((((SHARED))))))) AND (((((((CONSUMED))))))). God did not allow the priest to convert the TITHES into MONEY! That defeats the whole purpose of the Communion meals! Only Joel wants money handed over without accountability!

Even the Apostle Paul identifies those who participate in the consumption of the Promised Land Produce at the Levitical Altar:

10:18 Look at the people of Israel.12 Are not those who eat the sacrifices partners in the altar?

12 12 tn Grk “Israel according to (the) flesh.”

 Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (1 Co 10:18). Biblical Studies Press.

 

 

JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IS NOT YOUR EXAMPLE(APPEALING TO HUMAN GREED):

Joel then goes on to  tesify that John B. Rockefeller:

11:08-11:12 MINUTES Joel testified that John B. Rockefeller “said he began by tithing on a $1.50 a week”.

First, John Rockefeller is not our example. Even so, John Rockefeller would  not  invest bad/blind investments. He was a very good researcher. In the days of John Rockefeller, churches made known their collections and distributions. Do you really think John Rockefeller would give to A CHURCH that condemned the congregation for holding their clergy’s stewardship accountable?! Regardless, John Rockefeller is not our example, this is simply an appeal-to-emotion(human greed for money) and not Scripture.

The reason why the naive are laughing and saying their Amens! is because Joel throws in comedy at the right moment, i.e., before anyone thinks about the shocking statement he just made. It’s the same way trainers dominate their animals. If the trainer gives a stern commandment to the animal it will bite back. However, if he creates a diversion of the mind at just the right moment, the animal will forget and submit to instruction. That’s just how Joel treats his congregation. Before they can think about his unbiblical traditions, he cracks a joke and the AMENS and HALLELUJAHS come out the naive congregation who is seeking entertainment over education.

 

P.S. JOEL, Abraham didn’t tithe his OWN PROPERTY, he ONLY tithed spoils from war ONE TIME not weekly or monthly or annually.

 

FOR FURTHER STUDY:

THE BIBLICAL TITHE, FULL EXEGESIS BY RUSSELL EARL KELLEY, PhD

 

 

Joel Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell Pt.2 Monday, Sep 28 2009 

****IMPORTANT****DO NOT CONFRONT THE SO-CALLED “PROPHETS” AT BETHANY ANYMORE!! JOEL ADMITTED TO USING VIOLENCE(HERE) TO SUPPRESS CONFRONTATIONS! HE EVEN LAUGHED AT THE “BEATDOWN”SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY BY THE HAND AND FLEE TO SAFETY!! AGAIN DO NOT CONFRONT THEM********

SERIOUSLY DO NOT CONFRONT THE CORRUPT PRIESTS ANYMORE!! FLEE!!

GET BACK IN YOUR SEAT BOY!!

In part one(CLICK HERE), we applied the exact same double-standard to Joel Stockstill’s wife and the defendants cried foul. Why? Their claim was the same, Joel is above God’s Law, we’re aren’t to condemn whites(one standard for blacks another less critical for whites).

This hypocrisy is made evident by Joel Stockstill’s own admission! Remember the harsh standard he applied to M.J.? Well, HE DIDN’T APPLY IT TO HIS ALL WHITE BAND(HERE, called MUTEMATH)!! In fact, he admits that this all white rock-and-roll band is addicting to listen to. In his twitter entry on SEPT. 04, 2009 he states(click here):

“ok, im not big on any music that isn’t worship but the new Mutemath cd rocks! cant get enough!”10:38 PM Sep 4th from web

Wow….!! What a double standard! As his history clearly shows, if people in his black congregation start complaining, one or two things will happen when they confront him:

  1. He, like his daddy Lying Larry, will quickly point out their “disclaimer”

298_mutemath

Those who attend this cult where beatings are issued to anyone who contests Bethany’s Prophets please take my advice. DON’T CONFRONT THEM ANYMORE!! SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY AND LEAVE!! AGAIN DON’T CONFRONT THEM!! YOU’RE IN DANGER!!

Now, back to The Stockstill’s second damage-control tactic. Joel always places small disclaimers in his statements:

  1. politicians do the same to re-direct money in their pockets
  2. used car salesmen place them in their contracts to get you stuck with a clunker
  3. cellphone companies do the same to hit you with extra charges
  4. These “as seen on T.V.” pitch-men use disclaimers to push their faulty products
  5. Insurance companies use disclaimers to deny coverage after you’ve paid for years

IT’S A SCAM!! Joel’s disclaimer above will certainly be used as a disclaimer to those who see his JIM CROW STANDARD. Joel Stockstill stated, “OKAY, I’M NOT BIG ON MUSIC THAT ISN’T WORSHIP BUT…..”. Don’t fall for it, he totally cancels that disclaimer by the conjunction “BUT…”. He clearly used a double standard for this all white band.

If he used his white-standard on Michael Jackson nobody would’ve had a problem BUT just like he did with Palin/McCain during the campaigns, whites are always right according to his grading curve but blacks have to be perfect!!

This all white band that Joel finds addicting admits THEY CALL RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY A “BARRIER” to music YET Joel Called them “CAN’T GET ENOUGH(click here)”:

For us, we just try to keep it simple. We’re obviously a band; that’s really all we ever wanted to be from the very beginning without catering to any particular genre or political or religious agenda. We just want to make music with no barriers.

Paul MeanyBoise WeeklyApril 11, 2007

On top of this, MUTEMATH SUED TIME WARNER FOR PUTTING THEM IN A CHISTIAN CATEGORY!! This rock band that Bethany’s Prophet finds “addicting” hates Christ so much they actually sued their parent company for marketing them as such!! Now that’s hate for Christ that should be exposed! BUT JOEL TURNS A BLIND EYE AGAIN TO HIS WHITE BROTHERS!! This white rock band said identifying them with Christ “HURT ITS IMAGE”, LOL, and y’all call Joel annointed??!!

“Mutemath has filed suit against their label Warner Bros. for breach of contract and negligent misrepresentation. While in negotiations with the label, they were told their releases wouldn’t carry the Word Records branding, a Christian imprint of Warner. Their first Warner album included the Word logo, which the band felt hurt its image, inspiring them to sue.”

Didn’t your self-proclaimed prophet just rebuke those who indulge in activities where Christ is not present? Did he not just condemn a black musician but later praise these white rock-and-roll musicians??!! This band admitted in the Boise Weekly that if they catered to a religion like Christianity it would be a “BARRIER”. Why is Joel praising this band and not “speaking the truth” as a man of God? The sell-outs at Bethany claim that Joel Stockstill is an annointed Prophet who speaks the truth, yet we continue to see he does so with a DOUBLE STANDARD. White rock-n-roll is praised while blacks like Michael Jackson are shredded to pieces. You wanna see blacks in modern day slavery who know their place? Go to Bethany, LOL. They know what will happen if they step out of line, again, in Joel’s own words “Can you say Big Mike….Beatdown!”.

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

y’all continue to swallow this poison and stay in your place or else….BIG MIKE will put you there!

Joel, G.I. Joe, Hypocrisy and Violence Tuesday, Sep 1 2009 

Joel Stockstill(Head Youth Pastor) has exposed his ultimate hypocrisy and status as a false man of God. As very well documented, he goes around condemning people for their actions and getting deified by those under his authority as “a true prophet of God, a man of God, etc.”. How can this be when he admits to spending God’s money to watch a movie filled with “violence….mayhem….profanity“?

Many sites that review motion pictures are upset at how Hasbro Toy Co.(targeting children) have corrupted this cartoon into a very violent fim.  HOWEVER, Joel Stockstill doesn’t(Like Frame By Frame.com) rebuke such entertainment. The further silence to such hypocrisy of their prophet is obvious, “IF JOEL LIKES IT, WE LOVE IT!! HE’S DA BOSS!“.  Do the youth of Baton Rouge not look up to their Youth Pastor for guidance and fruit of maturity and godliness, WHERE IS JESUS, JOEL? Practice what you preach. You condemn violence in your blogs but not in practice.

 

Joel Stockstill, Youth Pastor, Calls This "HIGHLY ENTERTAINING...FUN". Yet condemns the church and the world for low values and worldliness??!!

Parents need to know that this relentless action adventure inspired by the '80s cartoon/toy line is filled with extreme (albeit minimally bloody/gory) violence. Kids will want to see it because they're the ones who play with the toys, but there's no end to the parade of characters who are slashed, stabbed, shot, or dispatched in various other ways (it's important to note that, unlike in the similarly inspired Transformers movies, most of the victims here are people, not machines). There's also a lot of potentially scary medical imagery -- needles, scalpels, painful-looking procedures, and more -- and some intermittent strong language (including "s--t"). And Hasbro, the company that makes G.I. Joe toys, co-produced the movie -- meaning that the story doesn't contain product placement so much as the product placement contains a story.(THIS REVIEW WAS BY COMMONSENSE MEDIA@ http://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/gi-joe-rise-cobra

 

   Joel Stockstill(A Youth Pastor at Bethany.com) in his twitter entry praised the violent G.I. Joe Movie as “HIGHLY ENTERTAINING” and “FUN“! This movie has been labed as “TOO VIOLENT” for our children. Even by the world’s standards it’s described as:

 

STRONG SEQUENCES OF ACTION VIOLENCE AND MAYHEM THROUGHOUT(CLICK DESCRIPTION FOR LINK)”

 

Questions for those who continue to deify this hypocrite:

 

  1. Why does the world have more godly standards than your prophet? Joel calls it “HIGHLY ENTERTAINING”  and “FUN“but the movie rating system calls is “STRONG ACTION VIOLENCE AND MAYHEM THROUGHOUT”.
  2. Why isn’t he being rebuked for praising such worldly and violent films?
  3. In his latest blog did he not ask the world  “Where is Jesus?(click here)”, so where was Jesus in this movie??!!

 

Furthermore, Joel’s own words convict him as a hypocrite in his blog “Where Is Jesus?”. In it Joel is rebuking carnal christians and rebukes those who display violent characters in sports and shames those who even have  “…a bad temper on the golf course”. YOU HYPOCRITE!! First take the plank out your own eye!! What about giving God’s money to go see a film too violent for the majority of youth under your authority. If 13year olds and under couldn’t even get in, WHAT ARE YOU DOINT THERE??!!  His own words convict him:

 

“His precious Word is being manipulated and torn apart to fit what itching ears want to hear and what scintillates the crowds.”

 

AND

 

“No longer are the fruit of the Spirit valued. (Anyone with a bad temper on the golf course is now deemed “competitive” and not simply carnal and lacking self-control.) No longer do leaders allow the gifts of the Spirit to operate in the gathering of believers on Sunday morning for fear of making some poor visitor uneasy. (most have no need to disallow because they couldn’t move in the gifts if their life depended on it!) No longer is seeking the Lord Jesus for His direction and heart something required to lead a church. With creative teams and multimedia presentations becoming our only focus there is no room left for the direction of the One we used to know as Master.”

 

You hypocrite and snake! Not only does that describe BEthany in general but Joel in particular! Joel has aligned himself with those he condemened. Even a liberal christian(who Joel rebukes constantly) site who recommends it for older crowds, WARNS:

“The biggest problem, for the younger kids, is the film is too violent and complicated to be a PG-13.(Click here)”

 

What Will Our Youth Think When Their Minister Finds Violence and Worldliness "HIGHLY ENTERTAINING......FUN"?

What Will Our Youth Think When Their Minister Finds Violence and Worldliness "HIGHLY ENTERTAINING......FUN"?

 

Yet, this so called youth minister never gave us this warning. Would he show this in church? I’LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION YOU ASKED IN YOUR BLOG……”WHERE IS JESUS?” in this film you found “Highly Entertaining……Fun”??!!

Tell One Lie, You’ll Have To Tell Another To Cover Up The First Wednesday, Aug 5 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE TO THOSE SAINTS WHO WERE NOT COERCED BY THE FEAR TACTICS OF BETHANY’S PROPHETS

    

 I think we’ve all received the advice that “If you tell one lie, you’ll have to tell another to defend your first”. This is why the researchers that assist  Ovadyah’s blog provide references for EVERY CLAIM, unlike the Bethany defendants who provide baseless opinions.
Tell One Lie And You'll Have To Tell Another To Cover Up The First. Bethany's Prophets (Lawrence Dean Stockstill and Joel Stockstill) Need To Simply Repent And Let's Move On

Tell One Lie And You'll Have To Tell Another To Cover Up The First. Bethany's Prophets (Lawrence Dean Stockstill and Joel Stockstill) Need To Simply Repent And Move On. Now that Two Contradicting Reasons For Bethany's Prophet Joel Stockstill's Travel To West Palm Beach Will Do Nothing But Create An Upcoming Third Lie. The Medical Center Will Inform Anyone Who Calls That They Turned Away NOBODY!! AND WAS UP AND RUNNING IMMEDIATELY AFTER GUSTAV.

  

 The reasons for Joel Stockstill’s traveling to West Palm Beach have been evolving or I should say snowballing.  The first lie was put forth by Joel’s minister, Jordan Jopling CLICK HERE, who claimed the center was closed and Joel had no choice but to seek dialysis for his diseased body in one of the wealthiest vacation spots in the U.S.A.

However, anyone watching the news was informed that such clinics and the hospitals were immediately restored (which even the staff will inform you).

Now, an anonymous poster with the email guitarboy@aol.com states that Joel had to travel way to West Palm Beach because Joel was turned away for treatment and the doctors were busy with other patients(CLICK HERE). The first red flag was this person calling them “DOCTORS” they aren’t doctors at the treatment center they are “NURSES”, LOL, some are RN some LPN’s.

Second, to claim the center turned Joel Stockstill away because they were busy with other patients is CRIMINAL. Also, let’s say the News, the staff at the treatment center, and my family member lied and Joel is the only one correct. That still doesn’t explain why he traveled way to West Palm Beach. He had other parishes within the state itself, Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, and the Pan Handle of Florida. He frequents the controversial Brownesville Revival in Pensacola, surely he knows the area.

The point: stop lying! You’ll only have to create more and more lies to cover up the first one. The new claim that Joel Stockstill was turned away because the doctors were busy is a slap in the face to any half intelligent human being. Then again, if  Bethany’s other Prophet, LAWRENCE DEAN STOCKSTILL, could use fear tactics to coerce millions from poor blacks to invest in his predominately White South Campus and it’s area, they’ll believe this new lie, eventhough it contradicts their first lie.

Joel Stockstill Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell!! Monday, Jul 6 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE BE UPON THE DISCERNING ONES WHO ESCAPED THE CULT OF BETHANY.COM

 

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy; Even mocking Michael's dead body!

 

I’ll have to say that Joel Stockstill has finally shocked me!  My soul and spirit was just floored at his post. I actually held back the tears to type this response to such an unmerciful and punitive false prophet like Joel Stockstill. He obviously has some sick joy in condemning Michael to hell. I’ll post Joel’s sick and twisted statements in bold and respond under neath. JOEL MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!! I sincerely pray for YOU! You’re treading on dangerous grounds by condemning people to hell! It’s one thing to make yourself a prophet but a whole heresy to place yourelf in GOD’s judgement seat, telling us who is in hell.

 

Joel fails to realise that Michael Jackson was FORCED to grow up. He had no child hood. He was taught during his childhood years to ISOLATE HIMSELF from others. IT WASN’T A CHOICE! Upon reaching adulthood, he only continued what he was taught, ISOLATION. In interview after interview you can hear Michael stating he wished he could be LIKE OTHER KIDS. This obviously effected his self esteem and mental state. On top of all of this, people sought to extort monies from this mealticket. As a result, he turned to narcotics while folks like Bethany’s Prophet Joel Stockstill continued mocking him, EVEN IN DEATH! I don’t know who to feel sorry for Bethany’ so called Prophet Joel or M.J.

 

Upon being asked which song reveals the true Michael Jackson, he(M.J.) replied “The most honest song I’ve ever written is called CHILDHOOD(click here for lyrics), here is a concise quote on Michael’s painful honesty:

“Before you judge me, try hard to love me,
Look within your heart then ask,
Have you seen my Childhood?

People say I’m strange that way
‘Cause I love such elementary things,
It’s been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood I’ve never known…

Have you seen my Childhood?
I’m searching for that wonder in my youth
Like fantastical stories to share
The dreams I would dare, watch me fly…

Before you judge me, try hard to love me.
The painful youth I’ve had

Have you seen my Childhood…”

 

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers!

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers! Father Have Mercy On His Body & Soul. To All of Those who Tortured This Man And Continue To Mock Him, Forgive Them Too!

 

(MY PRAYER)Dear God who renders a righteous judgement. PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON MICHAEL’S SOUL, he was robbed of his childhood and only taught isolation. Hear his cry and pain, hear my plea, forgive those who mock him and enjoy laughing at his tortured body. The priests in your house, dear God, has lost all their senses. They mock the downtrodden and have become superstars. Lying to your sheep and leading them astray. Stealing their money and perverting your Holy Scriptures. Likewise, have mercy on their souls. AMEN.  Here is Joel’s whole blog(click here):

 

“Nothing could more picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purposes and then chew them up and spit them out (straight into hell) like the recent passing of superstar and world-known Michael Jackson.”

 

     Joel, if  we hold you TO THE SAME STANDARD you hold Michael Jackon to, would it not be logical that “nothing could picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purpose and then chew them up and spit them out STRAIGHT INTO HELL” like the passing of your wife Amy Stockstill due to your failed prophecy that Christ would heal her?! Who chewed up and spit out your wife?!

 

      Furthermore, who gave you the authority to condemn Michael Jackson to hell?!  Have you created another double standard or is this for those outside of your cult?  Remember the THIEF ON THE CROSS WITH CHRIST?  Surely in our eyes, he was condemened by GOD AND WENT STRAIGHT TO HELL. But thanks to the Gospels we know at the last minute on an EXECUTION STAKE, Christ forgave him and the condemened was saved and entered PARADISE(Lk. 23:43)!! Yet, you have some sick and twisted joy at condemnation. Even when time for repentance was down to a minimum and he practiced sin his whole life, Christ informed:

 

43  “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

 

Next you stated:

 

“His bald, sickly frame was resting in a coffin and the world tried to regurgitate some good memories about this fallen star and yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world he has entered the place of torment for the beginning of forever.”

 

The world wasn’t trying to “REGURGITATE SOME GOOD MEMORIES”, they were being respectful, merciful, and Christ-like! For you to demean this hurting man as:

 

  1. Bald
  2. Sickly
  3. Fallen
  4. He ha entered the place of torment

Who made you judge of the dead? To all those who remain silent at Bethany, SHAME ON YOU!! You wrote in here at Ovadyah and was quick to condemn me for exposing Joel’s failed prophecy that Christ would heal Amy Stockstill, yet you say nothing about the disrespect for Michael Jackson.

Joel claims that because there was no known “supernatural intervention”  Michael Jackson entered “the place of torment”.  IS THIS HIS DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS AGAIN??!!

 

 LET’S APPLY THIS EXACT SAME STANDARD TO HIS DEAD WIFE, AMY STOCKSTILL!!  Wouldn’t this be fair? Is Joel such a holy prophet in your eyes that he is really untouchable?  You should be scared and afraid to be under such leadership! Let’ look at Joel’s BODY! Who is he to describe ANY PERSON AS SICKLY??!!  If you want to mock ANYONE Joel, just look in the mirror. How would you like it if someone looked into Amy’s coffin and laughed at her bucked up teeth and big ears??!!  You would’ve condemned them to hell like Michael.

 

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill's DEATH BY DISEASE!! Why Is Larry Stockstill Constantly Letting This Clown Stand In God's Judgement Seat?.

 

Look at how he squeezes in “Britney Spears”.  I guess this is the proof that he doesn’t have a doulbe standard for Blacks. Ridiculous!! If he wanted to mock anyone, he should have LOOKED AT HIS OWN SICKLY BODY!  As M.J. said, “start with the man in the mirror”. He doesn’t degrade Britney Spears, he merely mentions her name. He did the same with his annointed Sarah Palin. Anyone see the double standards, one for blacks(Michael Jackson, Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson) and another for whites (Britney Spears, Sarah Palin, Bristol Palin, Oral Roberts)? Bristol Palin did the same thing as Britney Spears BUT JOEL NEVER MENTIONED IT DURING THE ELECTION!!

 

I agree Michael has “questionable”  actions but I REFUSE to put myself in GOD’S JUDGMENT SEAT usurping God’s grace and righteous judgement. Joel YOUR SICKLY BODY  and DEAD WIFE should remind you of that !!  The most disturbing statements came from the kids giving  their Cult Leader nothing but “Amens!” and “Right On” when Joel condemned Michael to hell. He’s turned them into hate mongers with double standards. Bristol Palin never repented during the election for having a teen pregnancy out of wedlock, so why didn’t Joel condemn her??!!

I only read two Comments (From Blake and Amber) that spoke in favor of M.J. and warned everyone of pre-judging without knowing the last moments or mental condition of M.J. However these two folks who spoke out will most likely remain under the authority of Joel. It just amazes me how they tolerate his mockery of Christianity. If not let me know, it’s rare.

 

DAMAGE CONTROL, THRILLER PT.2:

 

Joel quickly wrote another post after condeming Michael Jackson to hell and eternal torment.  Joel Stockstill has no sense of humility. Instead of repenting for clearly doing the wrong thing by condemning Michael Jackson to hell, he rewrites in Part2 that he only stated Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell,THIS IS A PURE LIE!! Joel clearly wrote that Michael Jackson “…HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF FOREVER”. He doesn’t say Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell but “he has entered….”. What type of Character and role model for our children? What a hypocrite and a liar!!

He even mocks those who defended M.J. He made an attempt to prove he initially blogged that M.J. only “possibly” entered hell by quoting his statement(found in Thriller Pt.1):

 

“yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world”

 

Joel, if anyone believes the  fragment you provided is proof that you meant Michael “possibly” entered hell qualifies as gullible and blind.  You completed the above fragment with “HE HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT….”. Are your subjects really that naive?! Are they going to believe this? Why do they ignore the warning signs of this cult? He even mocks those call him “mean ol’ joel” by stating, “THAT HAS A NICE RING TO IT DOESN’T IT?”.  Parents did you hear that?! He loves the label!!

 If anyone studies cults, you’ll find one thing they all have in common with Bethany. Warning signs they should leave BUT ARE TOO INTIMIDATED OR NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO LEAVE.

Joel claims that being under “suspicion” makess you guilty and with that Joel is supposedly taught by Christ this allows us to condemn people to hell. INSANE!!  SUSPICION IS NOT PROOF. Can we condemn YOU TO HELL for being a false prophet?? Can we condemn Amy To hell for not speaking out against the unbiblical rituals Bethany practices(Benny Hinn’ Slain In The Spirit, babbling called tongues), Can we condemn you to hell for abandonding Baton Rouge after Gustav for shopping sprees?  Can we condemn Larry Stocktill to hell for lying to the congregation that he would make the biggest sacrifices during the 20/20 vision and is constantly on vacation? Did you practice fruits of righteousnesss by lying via Jordan Jopling that you went to West Palm Beach For Dialysis only?

IF YOU CAN CONDEMN M.J. TO HELL FOR SUSPICIONS SURELY WE CAN CONDEMN YOU TO HELL FOR STRONG EVIDENCE? Or does your rules only apply to blacks?

One thing history tells us is that many Christians from the Bible to modern times were killed UNDER SUSPICIONS by the governing authorities? According Joel’s standards this was enough to condemn them to hell. I would hate to see you sit in a jury. According to your standards, YOU SHOULD HAVE WEEKEND VISISTS TO HELL!  Surely the thief on the cross led a horrible and unfruitful life yet AGAIN, in his last breath he was saved. WHY NOT FOCUS ON THAT?

Let’s focus on your unfruitfulness!!

  1. FAILED PROPHECIES
  2. ABANDONING B.R. FOR SHOPPING SPREES AFTER GUSTAV DESTROYED BATON ROUGE
  3. QUOTING SCRIPTURE OUT OF CONTEXT
  4. CLAIMING TO HER GOD WHEN IN CONTRADICTS SCRIPTURE
  5. HOLDING A DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS
  6. PRAISING THE GOD OF EASTER(a pagan idol)
  7. ALLOWING JORDAN JOPLING TO LIE FOR YOUR ABSENCE
  8. WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH OF YOUR SICKLY WIFE?
  9. DOULBE STANDARDS, ONE FOR BLACKS AND ONE FOR WHITES

 

According to your standard Joel, YOU’RE OFF TO HELL!!  Where does Joel get his information that he spreads to Bethany? The same anti-minority news channel he quoted during the election, FOX NEWS NETWORK! He’s emulating Republican Rep. King who called Michael Jackson “A PERVERT” due to suspicion only. Rep. King stated “there’s nothing good about this person”. click here for latest.

 

 

Palin/McCain Campaign Portray Obama As AntiChrist Wednesday, Apr 8 2009 

PEACE BE UPON YOU IN CHRIST JESUS

 

     Well, it doesn’t amaze me about this one. During the campaign there was a lot of talk about President Obama being the possible Anti-Christ among white Christians. The source was difficult to determine since it was so widespread. However, it’s now been located to a Media Director within the Palin/McCain campaign.  Time Magazine has the article, “AN ANTICHRIST OBAMA IN McCAIN AD?”, click here. I like the question they asked because you start with a thought and examine the evidence.

 

Even URBANLEGENDS.COM investigated this claim, click here.

 

“Barack Obama, the Antichrist? This would have to count as the ultimate political smear. I mean, accusing a politician of accepting bribes or cheating on taxes is one thing; naming him as the “Seven-Headed Beast of Revelation” (a.k.a. “the Wicked One,” “False Prophet,” and “Beast from the Abyss”) is candidate bashing on an apocalyptic scale.”

 

     It just continues to amaze me of the bigotry and hypocrisy of the leaders at Bethany.COM. As they bashed and lashed out at Pres.Barack Obama and praised their “annointed” Princess Palin’s campaign which was confirmed by the false Prophet Kim Clement(LOL) they would have lashed out against this defamation of character! Here are some videos from Palin’s campaing where the racism comes to light:

 

McCain Palin Campaigners Say Obama Is A Monkey, Terrosist

I’m Democrat But I’m Not Voting For A Black Man (at 40second slot)

Las Vegas Palin Racist Rally

Children Calling Pres. Obama A Monkey and Tarzan.

 SARAH PALIN IGNORES RACIST COMMENT AT 56SECOND MARK, WATCH PALIN’S DAUGHTER IN RED, SHE SMILES AFTER RACIST COMMENT WAS SHOUTED

Why didn’t Larry Stockstill or Joel speak on these negatives at the Palin/McCain Rallies? Nope, the concealed it and chose  to remove the splinters from The President’s eye.

We see the Stockstills’ Defenders  practicing the same tactics when they respond here! They hurl all kinds of adjectives, insults, and condemnations, YET NOTHING TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THEIR STATEMENTS.  I guess is the guild of the gullible,i.e., the subordinates obey the Stockstill’s 20/20 Vision plan and their “Laws of Increase” while the Stockstills postpone NOTHING and actually brag about putting their kids through L.S.U., travels abroad, and shopping sprees for “phat threads” as Joel puts it.

Melissa Stockstill, European Royalty Thursday, Mar 12 2009 

GREETINGS IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS OUR ONLY EXAMPLE AND SAVIOR

 

     I’m continued to be amazed at what the Stockstill’s get away with and how their lifestyles compare with those of their congregation. It’s clear why Larry Stockstill continues to advertise his Prosperity Gospel book, The Laws of Increase and claim that 2Sam.24:24 is about Capital Campaign which shows his members should give “over and beyond” their means.

 

royalty

 

Melissa Stockstill is another child of Larry Stockstill who the poor black congregation of Baker has put through college with their tithes/offerings. Melissa Stockstill showed up in December with so called “Royalty from London” to play a duet of Harps(CLICK HERE). On the video Melissa Stockstill informs the interviewer that she:

  1. Started Playing The Harp At Four Years Old(what were you doing in the hood at four years old?)
  2. Was Taught By An L.S.U. Teacher
  3. When asked If She Travels Often, “Yes, I do”(Didn’t Larry Stockstill instruct via his 20/20 vision program for your families to make sacrifices. Why isn’t his family making sacrifices?)
  4. She further admits she’s traveled to London “8 to 9 times within a year and half“!!  I’ve never known any of the poor black residents of Baker to have this privilege. I’m sure this LiL Sarah Palin is thankful for your tithes/offerings/sacrifices.

 After graduating from LSU (on the backs of those who will never see college) she moved to London to attend the Royal Academy of Music.

 

Question: How many children of Baker, La. have had these oppurtunities? Has Bethany supported your college tuition and traveling fees and Royal Music Lessons overseas??!! How many of your children have been able to TOUCH much less play a PRICELESS GOLDEN HARP?(READ HERE)

 

Melissa Stockstill is never seen with any of the Black members of Bethany, Why? She’s strictly European! This “Royalty” even copyrights her images. Visit her pics on Virb.Com and you’ll see she definitely doesn’t hold to the conservative views of her father. She shows a lot of skin(click here, I couldn’t post the pic here because she actually purchased to have them coyprighted). It reminds me of Sarah Palin and her daughter.

 

After checking the demographics of Baker, Louisiana, I see why The “SOUTH CAMPUS” WAS CHOSEN AND NOT THE ONE IN BAKER, LOUISIANA. Baker was not good enough to the Stockstill’s to host this ROYAL HARPIST. They didn’t want to be embarassed by the poverty and have this Royal European see its citizens. Instead the predominately white congregation at the North Campus hosted this event. Contrast or compare these demographics OF BAKER, LA. with the easy life of the Stockstills’ children(who must be that 2.4% below)

  1. Only 2.4% get to college(That must be the Stockstill’s children)
  2. Of that 2.4% that go to college ONLY 9% get their Bachelor Degree
  3. of that 2.4% ONLY 5.8% get a graduate degree
  4. The HOUSEHOLD income was only $38,500(remember the whole house income not one parent)

 

 

 

Melissa Stockstill, graduate of LSU, Royal Harpist

Melissa Stockstill, graduate of LSU, Royal Harpist. A very privilege many Baker, Louisiana children don't have. However, if your daddy convinces his congregation they have to make sacrifices and "give over and beyond", you can travel abroad and go to the best schools on the backs of the poor.

 

It amazes me how ministers claim to be Non-profit during tax time, yet their family members enjoy personal enrichment.  Again, hey Baker Louisiana have your kids:

 

  1. Gradauted from LSU
  2. Westminster

 

Oooh, that’s right you guys have to obey Larry Stockstill and submit to his 20/20 Vision program where you’re told to do the opposite of his kids(Joel&Melissa). He tells you in 20/20 Vision to(click here for original website rules for YOU and YOUR FAMILY:

 

1. Practice priority budgeting.
 

Many families choose to rearrange their priorities and give up something in their current budgets in order to give more to a capital campaign. Priority budgeting may mean postponing a planned expenditure for such things as a new car, vacation, home remodeling, or other major expenditure. Many Christians giving to capital stewardship campaigns find the means to give through sacrificial commitments made in faith and coupled with priority budgeting.

 

(It’s interesting how he says many families choose to “give up something” while his kids travel the world and graduate from universities, shopping sprees in West Palm Beach, Music Lessons in London)

 
..2. Redirect present expenditures.
 

Often families have significant short-term expenditures for special needs that can be redirected towards the capital campaign after the short-term obligations are met. For example, a family realized that their daughters would be graduating from college during the last two years of the capital campaign, and consequently, they were able to increase their commitment by thousands of dollars in the second and third years simply by redirecting what they had been spending on their daughters’ tuition. Another example of redirecting expenditures would be committing cash flow that becomes available after a loan is repaid.

 

(DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT HAVE MERCY??!!  IF ANYONE BLACK CITIZEN IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ENTER COLLEGE, HE SUGGESTS YOU CONTINUE THOSE PAYMENTS TO HIS CAPITAL CAMPAIGN??!!)

 
..3. Increase giving with increased income.
 

Some people receive periodic increases in salary or bonuses from their employers. The temptation for many of us is to increase our lifestyle to fit the higher income. In many instances, families have decided that they will commit the full amount of salary increases to the capital campaign.

 

(DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT REALIZE THESE INCREASES ARE NEEDED. IT’S NOT A “TEMPTATION” IT’S A NEED. IT’S ALSO AMAZING HOW HIS CHILDREN LIVE ROYALLY WHILE HE PLACES THESE RULES ON THE CONGREGATION)

 
..4. Give from your excess.
 

Some people have valuable possessions at their disposal. One young man decided that two of his collectors’ baseball cards worth over $20,000 would be the most appropriate means of sacrifice for his family. Other people save money over a period of years for a special project. For example, a couple had saved $80,000 to build a lake cabin. When their church entered a capital stewardship campaign, they decided the needs of the church were greater than their need for a second home.

 

(WOW, HE SAYS “OTHER PEOPLE SAVE MONEY”. UUUH, YEAH. IT’S CALLED RETIRMENT!! WHO ARE THESE MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE WHO GAVE UP THEIR LIVES FOR THE STOCKSTILL’S CHILDREN TO LIVE ROAYALLY??!!)

 
..5. Commit unexpected cash.
 

Often people pray for God to show them a way they can give beyond what they presently see or afford. Sometimes the answers come unexpectedly. A couple had been praying for weeks about their commitment to their church’s capital campaign. Much to their surprise, they received an inheritance of several thousand dollars. They gave the entire amount to their church as part of their three-year commitment, in addition to a commitment from their regular income.

 

(YOU TOOK A COUPLES INHERITANCE  IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY GIVING??!! HOW DID YOU CONVINCE THEM? MAN, YOU COULD SELL ICE TO AN ESKIMO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT AND T.V. STATION, BUT HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF SELLING USED CARS? YOU WOULD MAKE A KILLING!! I GUESS THAT’S WHY I’M NOT A TELEVANGELIST, BECAUSE MY CONSCIENCE WOULDN’T ALLOW ME TO TAKE THESE GIFTS MUCH LESS POST THESE SUGGESTIONS.  I’M SURE TEH STOCKSTILL KIDS ARE LOVING THE GIFTS, LOL)

 

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..6. Sacrifice extra time.
 

Some family members have extra time they would be willing to use in a part-time job to enable them to give more to the church. This is particularly true for families whose children are grown and away from home and for semiretired or retired couples. In one situation, a man was in the process of retiring when his church entered a capital campaign. He and his wife secured new jobs and gave the first three years of their retirement income to the capital campaign.

 

(WOW, MOST FAMILY MEMBERS GET A SECOND JOB TO HELP OUT WITH BILLS. LARRY STOCKSTILL WANTS THAT MONEY TOO. HE EVEN WANTS THE ELDERLY WHO’S KIDS ARE GONE TO GET A PART TIME JOB AND GIVE HIM ALL THEIR INCOME, LOL, THAT’S BOLD!!)

 
..7. Donate appreciated assets.
 

Many people own stocks that are worth significantly more than the original purchase price. That is good news. The bad news is that if these stocks are sold, a significant portion of the gain will be lost to taxation. Gifts of appreciated assets typically, investment securities or real estate—can be very advantageous to both the donor and the church. By transferring ownership of the asset to the church, the donor avoids income taxes on the sale of the asset. In addition, the donor receives an income tax deduction for the full market value of the asset. That, in effect, renders the gift less costly to make.

 

(YES, THESE STOCKS ARE USUALLY PART OF A 401K RETIRMENT PLAN, GOODNESS LARRY, HAVE MERCY!!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 If Larry Stockstill wanted to truly pay off bills, he should have practiced what he preached to the people instead of sending his Melissa through college, overseas to study, and travel Europe on motorcycles OR shopping sprees in West Palm Beach while the city is helping citizens after a major hurricane!?

Oh that’s right, it’s not their job, IT’S YOUR JOB church member!! Please…continue to give over and beyond(stocks, pay raises, heirlooms, inheritance,  college tuition).

 

Trouble Making Negro!! Tuesday, Feb 17 2009 

Peace And Grace Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus,

 

I’ve noticed a common trait among those who defend the cult of Bethany World Prayer Center and the Stockstills. These folks constantly lable those who disagree with them as a  “TROUBLE MAKER” or “AGITATOR”. These insults could be halfway decent if they provided some supporting evidence to those statements. However, they don’t because they can’t. It’s easier just to hurl these stones at anyone who disagrees with their god, Larry Stockstill and his angel Joel Stockstill. Despite Bethany’s silence, the McCain/Palin campaign catered to racists. They had no problem with exposing those who sided with President Barack but remained silent with those who sided with McCain/Palin. This is why McCain/Palin remained in small country towns and called them the “Real America”. If you watched any of the interviews that occurred during McCain/Palin’s conventions you’ll hear the same thing over and over, “I’m concerned the niggers will take over”; “They’re not Christian”.

 

Now even the most respected Newspaper has exposed their racist views!!! The N.Y. Post, famous for their political cartoons, published this one:

 

baracko

During Black History Month, the cable channel TVone has played several good movies on the Black Churhces’ role during the Civil Rights movement when the White Churches remained silent(as they did during the Jewish Holocaust). It seems not much has changed since then. I viewed several movies that were true stories that took place in the South(Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia). 

The Black Churches that chose to expose the racist South, expose Racist Churches, racist businesses or chose to  participate in protests, participate in voter registration, or participate in getting a black leader in goverment were called “Troublemakers, Communists, Agitators, Divisive”. Ever since I’ve revealed the scams and racial bias from the Stockstill’s guess what Ovadyah has been labled as? Yep, “Troublemaker, Agitator, Divisive”.  Not much has changed!

Furthermore, there were those blacks in the South who despite having all the evidence of wrongdoing, prejudice, and racism refused to join their brothers and sisters in the struggle. The whites back then would label these as “good negroes” or “good boys” or “good Christian”. Again, not much has changed.

Unlike the research and supporting evidence from Ovadyah, the defenders of The Stockstills do just as their forefathers; they hurl insults and adjectives without supporting evidence, NONE!! Read their comments! They simply give opinions or insults.

 

Futhermore,  watch how Bethany is now trying to prevent their biggest bank rolls from leaving(naive black folks). The ad below has not one black face on it, however….

 

racist

 

It’s obvious Bethany is in Damage Control mode You now see blacks being pushed into leadership/pastoral roles, LOL and look at the videos(What’s Love Got To Do With It), THEY ARE ACTUALLY FALLING FOR IT!!  Too bad for them, they made this advertisement before fully realizing the Black Exodus back to their historic congregations.

 

Eventhough Bethany has deceptively pushed these black folks into these positions, THEY REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE BLACK HISTORY MONTH! You couldn’t even tell there was such a thing.  Again, Check out the latest 220POWER advertisement(posted Jan.29, 2009) above, NOT A SINGLE BLACK FACE ON IT!!  Now, check out who is preaching at the latest 220POWER. What’s even more obvious is how the congregants are grouped. The Blacks are all huddled in unity, like these kids were forced by their parents to attend!

The Stockstills obviously have mental ownership on those poor blacks that fill their pews. No matter what the evidence, they stay! They admit they have many concerns but WON’T LEAVE! That’s a cult! To make things worse, check out Joel’s latest blog. HE BLAMES THE BLACK FOR CALLING HIM A RACIST and boldy states, “I am not looking for apologies personally but desiring for us to learn from our mistakes and not allow this type of thing to tear us apart in the future.”. WHaaaat??!! and Y’all staying, LOL. He’s the one who started this whole mess. He’s the one who quickly deleted the questionable blog. Don’t be deceived by the cleaned up version Bethany now circulates. Again, Joel you’re the one who started this whole mess by your verbal lashings on Pres. Obama’s back while praising the McCain/Palin campaign. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH HOMEBOY!!

He clearly points out the sins of others but never acknowledges his and the other leaders who coerced the congregation. Yes, I agree, Obama isn’t perfect BUT LOOK AT BUSH WHO MCCAIN SAID HE WOULD CONTINUE! You expose how Obama allows abortion when the mother’s life is in danger BUT SAY NOTHING ABOUT

  1. HOW MANY ADULTS THE BUSHES KILLED IN THEIR WARS FOR OIL!!
  2. SARAH PALIN’S DAUGHTER HAVING SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE
  3. SARAH PALIN’S DAUGHTER MAY NOT EVEN GET MARRIED TO HER BABY’S DADDY
  4. SARAH PALIN LYING ABOUT READING POLITICAL MAGAZINES AND COULDN’T NAME ONE
  5. HOW CAN THE PALINS PREACH AND DON’T PRACTICE!!
  6. HOW SARAH PALIN SPENT $150,000 IN DONATIONS ON A SHOPPING SPREE
  7. HOW BUSH HAS BANKRUPT AMERICA!!
  8. HOW TERRORISTS ATTACKED (911) AMERICA DURING BUSH’S WATCH
  9. THE NON-CHRISTIANS AND RACISTS WHO SUPPORTED MCCAIN/PALIN
  10. HOW PALIN SUPPORTERS CALLED BARACK A “NIGGER” AND PALIN SPIRIT FILLED(CLICK HERE)
  11. SO-CALLED GODLY BRISTOL PALIN SAYS “ABSTINENCE IS NOT REALISTIC” IN INTERVIEW (CLICK HERE)
  12. HOW MAJOR HURRICANES (KATRINA, RITA,GUSTAV) RIPPED THE SOUTH WHO VOTED FOR THE BUSHES!!

This double standard is what makes you a racist!! You ignore the whites’ sins(Palin) and magnify President Obama’s. Joel and Larry Stockstill you ARE HYPOCRITES AND RACISTS!!  You’re  just like the racists on Fox News, who you constantly quote. It’s okay for one group to sin but not the other??!! My heart truly weeps to see how you rebuke the blacks who NOTICED YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD and even had the audacity to say, “I’m not looking for apologies”. I agree, you should be GIVING OUT apologies. You didn’t give a one, you put it all on your congregation. Oh, my people wake up!! Wake Up!! Stop letting this child tell you that you were wrong when YOU WERE RIGHT! He’s only as powerful as you let him be. Oh yeah, it was real convient for you Joel to be out of town after deleting that infamous blog. I’m sure we have to give Dad that credit.

Nobody is defending Pres. Obama simply because of the color of his skin. We’re defending him because, like us, we’re held to a double standard! You are the one that needs to apologise for your actions. You are the one that failed, STOP BLAMING YOUR CONGREGATION YOU HYPOCRITE!!

Only now you call the election “Temporal and Earthly” before you stated prophets were proclaiming:

 

Despite your conviction on politics and the presidential race there has been a true phenomenon that has happened since the appearance of VP nominee Gov. Sarah Palin. This bright and beautiful new face has electrified the nation and brought a whole new spin on everything. I believe it was in January that Kim Clement prophesied that a vice presidential candidate would come into the picture and shake up the whole race. Boy, did that word ever come true!

Gov. Palin is a spirit-filled believer who was strongly involved in her home church (from the city she is from Wasilla). She then became a part of a great church in Juneau as she moved there to be governor. This church uses methods of discipleship very similar to what we do here at Bethany”. (PALIN PHENOMENON, SAT.OCT.04,2008)  

 

You used the adjectives “true phenomenon, electrified, spirit-filled”. But since your prophecy or I should say hopes have failed, you now modify the election with “TEMPORAL AND EARTHLY”. Boy you’re too much and tell the poor black folks, “I don’t expect an apology”. You remind me of my childhood when the boastful would appear on the basketball court and shout “Oh yeah we’re gonna beat y’all so bad, we gonna win!!” and yet when these boastful pretenders LOSE THEY RENIG LIKE YOU with “Hey, it’s only game….why y’all making a big deal about us losing, let’s put that type of boasting away, y’all need to be a little more mature”. Now it’s Temporal and Earthly, I know why it’s because you’re the loser. Now the election wasn’t and isn’t a big deal to you. BUT IT IS, AMERICA HAS IT’S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT….HELLLLLO??!! Futhermore, YOU’RE THE ONE WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS!!  Stop blaming those poor black folks under your authority. How you never admit to have done anything wrong during this campaign is incredibly bold and to see how much ownership you have over those black kids is astonishing.

 

I feel so sorry for them. WAAAAAKE UUUUUUUP!!

Bristol Palin 17,Sex Before Marriage and Bethany’s Silence Thursday, Jan 8 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS OUR ONLY STANDARD!

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     It’s no longer astonishing to see how The Stockstills at Bethany promoted Gov. Sarah Palin and demoted President Barack Obama. They continued to expose the splinters in Barack’s eyes while ignoring the beams blocking Sarah’s eyes.  We constantly heard and read of Sarah’s godliness and leadership and how much of a mom she was leading her children down a godly path. Yet, one of the many beams the Stockstill’s failed to inform their gullible congregation was the pregnant state of her UNWED-TEEN daughter Bristol Palin.

 

     How could this be? How could the Stockstills ignore Bristol Palin’s pregnancy in their blogs and praises of their godliness?! How could the Stockstills ignore Bristol Palin’s conception without being married?!  The answer is simple. Anything but a black president!! It makes no other sense. This women has showed she was a dunce and failure. Her daughter’s pregnancy shows, the lack of leadership. The Stockstill’s cover up shows deception. I was waiting to see when this pregnancy would be brought up while they chastised Barack and it never was and now Bristol has given birth. Still nothing by the Stockstills….

 

To the unwed pregnant mother’s at Bethany, Are you being praised like Bristol Palin while your teen pregnancy is being ignored and your “godliness” promoted? Or are you being told to repent of your sin? Seeing how the Stockstill’s constantly quoted Fox News and rebuked Barack Obama, How do you think they would’ve responded if Obama had an unwed pregnant teen daughter? They definitely wouldn’t conceal that fact as they did with the Palins.  Again, It’s a double-standard. It’s cute when they(The Palins) do it but a sin when blacks do it.

The most astonishing thing is that Bristol Palin who is supposed to be “annointed” and “Spirit Filled” DOESN’T EVEN BELIEVE IN ABISTINENCE, she says that it’s “UNREALISTIC“.(CLICK HERE). Abstinence is realistic “IF YOUR TRULY GROUNDED IN GOD”!

Furthermore, when the press asked Gov. Palin if her daughter was going to get married to the baby’s father, Gov. Palin did not have an anwer. She was clueless. Surely the Stockstills should have informed us of this and preached a sermon about it BUT NO!! NOT THEIR PRECIOUS PRINCESS!

Why didn’t you praise Sasha Obama and Malia Obama during the campaign??!!

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Blessed Be Christ,

Ovadyah

 

 

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