Joel Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell Pt.2 Monday, Sep 28 2009 

****IMPORTANT****DO NOT CONFRONT THE SO-CALLED “PROPHETS” AT BETHANY ANYMORE!! JOEL ADMITTED TO USING VIOLENCE(HERE) TO SUPPRESS CONFRONTATIONS! HE EVEN LAUGHED AT THE “BEATDOWN”SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY BY THE HAND AND FLEE TO SAFETY!! AGAIN DO NOT CONFRONT THEM********

SERIOUSLY DO NOT CONFRONT THE CORRUPT PRIESTS ANYMORE!! FLEE!!

GET BACK IN YOUR SEAT BOY!!

In part one(CLICK HERE), we applied the exact same double-standard to Joel Stockstill’s wife and the defendants cried foul. Why? Their claim was the same, Joel is above God’s Law, we’re aren’t to condemn whites(one standard for blacks another less critical for whites).

This hypocrisy is made evident by Joel Stockstill’s own admission! Remember the harsh standard he applied to M.J.? Well, HE DIDN’T APPLY IT TO HIS ALL WHITE BAND(HERE, called MUTEMATH)!! In fact, he admits that this all white rock-and-roll band is addicting to listen to. In his twitter entry on SEPT. 04, 2009 he states(click here):

“ok, im not big on any music that isn’t worship but the new Mutemath cd rocks! cant get enough!”10:38 PM Sep 4th from web

Wow….!! What a double standard! As his history clearly shows, if people in his black congregation start complaining, one or two things will happen when they confront him:

  1. He, like his daddy Lying Larry, will quickly point out their “disclaimer”

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Those who attend this cult where beatings are issued to anyone who contests Bethany’s Prophets please take my advice. DON’T CONFRONT THEM ANYMORE!! SIMPLY TAKE YOUR FAMILY AND LEAVE!! AGAIN DON’T CONFRONT THEM!! YOU’RE IN DANGER!!

Now, back to The Stockstill’s second damage-control tactic. Joel always places small disclaimers in his statements:

  1. politicians do the same to re-direct money in their pockets
  2. used car salesmen place them in their contracts to get you stuck with a clunker
  3. cellphone companies do the same to hit you with extra charges
  4. These “as seen on T.V.” pitch-men use disclaimers to push their faulty products
  5. Insurance companies use disclaimers to deny coverage after you’ve paid for years

IT’S A SCAM!! Joel’s disclaimer above will certainly be used as a disclaimer to those who see his JIM CROW STANDARD. Joel Stockstill stated, “OKAY, I’M NOT BIG ON MUSIC THAT ISN’T WORSHIP BUT…..”. Don’t fall for it, he totally cancels that disclaimer by the conjunction “BUT…”. He clearly used a double standard for this all white band.

If he used his white-standard on Michael Jackson nobody would’ve had a problem BUT just like he did with Palin/McCain during the campaigns, whites are always right according to his grading curve but blacks have to be perfect!!

This all white band that Joel finds addicting admits THEY CALL RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY A “BARRIER” to music YET Joel Called them “CAN’T GET ENOUGH(click here)”:

For us, we just try to keep it simple. We’re obviously a band; that’s really all we ever wanted to be from the very beginning without catering to any particular genre or political or religious agenda. We just want to make music with no barriers.

Paul MeanyBoise WeeklyApril 11, 2007

On top of this, MUTEMATH SUED TIME WARNER FOR PUTTING THEM IN A CHISTIAN CATEGORY!! This rock band that Bethany’s Prophet finds “addicting” hates Christ so much they actually sued their parent company for marketing them as such!! Now that’s hate for Christ that should be exposed! BUT JOEL TURNS A BLIND EYE AGAIN TO HIS WHITE BROTHERS!! This white rock band said identifying them with Christ “HURT ITS IMAGE”, LOL, and y’all call Joel annointed??!!

“Mutemath has filed suit against their label Warner Bros. for breach of contract and negligent misrepresentation. While in negotiations with the label, they were told their releases wouldn’t carry the Word Records branding, a Christian imprint of Warner. Their first Warner album included the Word logo, which the band felt hurt its image, inspiring them to sue.”

Didn’t your self-proclaimed prophet just rebuke those who indulge in activities where Christ is not present? Did he not just condemn a black musician but later praise these white rock-and-roll musicians??!! This band admitted in the Boise Weekly that if they catered to a religion like Christianity it would be a “BARRIER”. Why is Joel praising this band and not “speaking the truth” as a man of God? The sell-outs at Bethany claim that Joel Stockstill is an annointed Prophet who speaks the truth, yet we continue to see he does so with a DOUBLE STANDARD. White rock-n-roll is praised while blacks like Michael Jackson are shredded to pieces. You wanna see blacks in modern day slavery who know their place? Go to Bethany, LOL. They know what will happen if they step out of line, again, in Joel’s own words “Can you say Big Mike….Beatdown!”.

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

Say Massa Joel Is Annointed Boy....Say It!! Say It!! He's Good White Folks!! Say It!!

y’all continue to swallow this poison and stay in your place or else….BIG MIKE will put you there!

Joel Stockstill Condemns Michael Jackson To Hell!! Monday, Jul 6 2009 

PEACE AND GRACE BE UPON THE DISCERNING ONES WHO ESCAPED THE CULT OF BETHANY.COM

 

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy

This self proclaimed prophet condemned Michael Jackson To Hell With No Mercy; Even mocking Michael's dead body!

 

I’ll have to say that Joel Stockstill has finally shocked me!  My soul and spirit was just floored at his post. I actually held back the tears to type this response to such an unmerciful and punitive false prophet like Joel Stockstill. He obviously has some sick joy in condemning Michael to hell. I’ll post Joel’s sick and twisted statements in bold and respond under neath. JOEL MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!! I sincerely pray for YOU! You’re treading on dangerous grounds by condemning people to hell! It’s one thing to make yourself a prophet but a whole heresy to place yourelf in GOD’s judgement seat, telling us who is in hell.

 

Joel fails to realise that Michael Jackson was FORCED to grow up. He had no child hood. He was taught during his childhood years to ISOLATE HIMSELF from others. IT WASN’T A CHOICE! Upon reaching adulthood, he only continued what he was taught, ISOLATION. In interview after interview you can hear Michael stating he wished he could be LIKE OTHER KIDS. This obviously effected his self esteem and mental state. On top of all of this, people sought to extort monies from this mealticket. As a result, he turned to narcotics while folks like Bethany’s Prophet Joel Stockstill continued mocking him, EVEN IN DEATH! I don’t know who to feel sorry for Bethany’ so called Prophet Joel or M.J.

 

Upon being asked which song reveals the true Michael Jackson, he(M.J.) replied “The most honest song I’ve ever written is called CHILDHOOD(click here for lyrics), here is a concise quote on Michael’s painful honesty:

“Before you judge me, try hard to love me,
Look within your heart then ask,
Have you seen my Childhood?

People say I’m strange that way
‘Cause I love such elementary things,
It’s been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood I’ve never known…

Have you seen my Childhood?
I’m searching for that wonder in my youth
Like fantastical stories to share
The dreams I would dare, watch me fly…

Before you judge me, try hard to love me.
The painful youth I’ve had

Have you seen my Childhood…”

 

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers!

Michael Jackson Robbed Of His Childhood and Extorted By Friends As An Adult. Mocked In Death By God's Preachers! Father Have Mercy On His Body & Soul. To All of Those who Tortured This Man And Continue To Mock Him, Forgive Them Too!

 

(MY PRAYER)Dear God who renders a righteous judgement. PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON MICHAEL’S SOUL, he was robbed of his childhood and only taught isolation. Hear his cry and pain, hear my plea, forgive those who mock him and enjoy laughing at his tortured body. The priests in your house, dear God, has lost all their senses. They mock the downtrodden and have become superstars. Lying to your sheep and leading them astray. Stealing their money and perverting your Holy Scriptures. Likewise, have mercy on their souls. AMEN.  Here is Joel’s whole blog(click here):

 

“Nothing could more picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purposes and then chew them up and spit them out (straight into hell) like the recent passing of superstar and world-known Michael Jackson.”

 

     Joel, if  we hold you TO THE SAME STANDARD you hold Michael Jackon to, would it not be logical that “nothing could picture the enemies desire to use someone for his evil purpose and then chew them up and spit them out STRAIGHT INTO HELL” like the passing of your wife Amy Stockstill due to your failed prophecy that Christ would heal her?! Who chewed up and spit out your wife?!

 

      Furthermore, who gave you the authority to condemn Michael Jackson to hell?!  Have you created another double standard or is this for those outside of your cult?  Remember the THIEF ON THE CROSS WITH CHRIST?  Surely in our eyes, he was condemened by GOD AND WENT STRAIGHT TO HELL. But thanks to the Gospels we know at the last minute on an EXECUTION STAKE, Christ forgave him and the condemened was saved and entered PARADISE(Lk. 23:43)!! Yet, you have some sick and twisted joy at condemnation. Even when time for repentance was down to a minimum and he practiced sin his whole life, Christ informed:

 

43  “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

 

Next you stated:

 

“His bald, sickly frame was resting in a coffin and the world tried to regurgitate some good memories about this fallen star and yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world he has entered the place of torment for the beginning of forever.”

 

The world wasn’t trying to “REGURGITATE SOME GOOD MEMORIES”, they were being respectful, merciful, and Christ-like! For you to demean this hurting man as:

 

  1. Bald
  2. Sickly
  3. Fallen
  4. He ha entered the place of torment

Who made you judge of the dead? To all those who remain silent at Bethany, SHAME ON YOU!! You wrote in here at Ovadyah and was quick to condemn me for exposing Joel’s failed prophecy that Christ would heal Amy Stockstill, yet you say nothing about the disrespect for Michael Jackson.

Joel claims that because there was no known “supernatural intervention”  Michael Jackson entered “the place of torment”.  IS THIS HIS DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS AGAIN??!!

 

 LET’S APPLY THIS EXACT SAME STANDARD TO HIS DEAD WIFE, AMY STOCKSTILL!!  Wouldn’t this be fair? Is Joel such a holy prophet in your eyes that he is really untouchable?  You should be scared and afraid to be under such leadership! Let’ look at Joel’s BODY! Who is he to describe ANY PERSON AS SICKLY??!!  If you want to mock ANYONE Joel, just look in the mirror. How would you like it if someone looked into Amy’s coffin and laughed at her bucked up teeth and big ears??!!  You would’ve condemned them to hell like Michael.

 

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill

Let's Place Joel's Standard of No Divine Intervention To Amy Stockstill's DEATH BY DISEASE!! Why Is Larry Stockstill Constantly Letting This Clown Stand In God's Judgement Seat?.

 

Look at how he squeezes in “Britney Spears”.  I guess this is the proof that he doesn’t have a doulbe standard for Blacks. Ridiculous!! If he wanted to mock anyone, he should have LOOKED AT HIS OWN SICKLY BODY!  As M.J. said, “start with the man in the mirror”. He doesn’t degrade Britney Spears, he merely mentions her name. He did the same with his annointed Sarah Palin. Anyone see the double standards, one for blacks(Michael Jackson, Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson) and another for whites (Britney Spears, Sarah Palin, Bristol Palin, Oral Roberts)? Bristol Palin did the same thing as Britney Spears BUT JOEL NEVER MENTIONED IT DURING THE ELECTION!!

 

I agree Michael has “questionable”  actions but I REFUSE to put myself in GOD’S JUDGMENT SEAT usurping God’s grace and righteous judgement. Joel YOUR SICKLY BODY  and DEAD WIFE should remind you of that !!  The most disturbing statements came from the kids giving  their Cult Leader nothing but “Amens!” and “Right On” when Joel condemned Michael to hell. He’s turned them into hate mongers with double standards. Bristol Palin never repented during the election for having a teen pregnancy out of wedlock, so why didn’t Joel condemn her??!!

I only read two Comments (From Blake and Amber) that spoke in favor of M.J. and warned everyone of pre-judging without knowing the last moments or mental condition of M.J. However these two folks who spoke out will most likely remain under the authority of Joel. It just amazes me how they tolerate his mockery of Christianity. If not let me know, it’s rare.

 

DAMAGE CONTROL, THRILLER PT.2:

 

Joel quickly wrote another post after condeming Michael Jackson to hell and eternal torment.  Joel Stockstill has no sense of humility. Instead of repenting for clearly doing the wrong thing by condemning Michael Jackson to hell, he rewrites in Part2 that he only stated Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell,THIS IS A PURE LIE!! Joel clearly wrote that Michael Jackson “…HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF FOREVER”. He doesn’t say Michael “POSSIBLY” entered hell but “he has entered….”. What type of Character and role model for our children? What a hypocrite and a liar!!

He even mocks those who defended M.J. He made an attempt to prove he initially blogged that M.J. only “possibly” entered hell by quoting his statement(found in Thriller Pt.1):

 

“yet without some supernatural intervention not known by the world”

 

Joel, if anyone believes the  fragment you provided is proof that you meant Michael “possibly” entered hell qualifies as gullible and blind.  You completed the above fragment with “HE HAS ENTERED THE PLACE OF TORMENT….”. Are your subjects really that naive?! Are they going to believe this? Why do they ignore the warning signs of this cult? He even mocks those call him “mean ol’ joel” by stating, “THAT HAS A NICE RING TO IT DOESN’T IT?”.  Parents did you hear that?! He loves the label!!

 If anyone studies cults, you’ll find one thing they all have in common with Bethany. Warning signs they should leave BUT ARE TOO INTIMIDATED OR NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO LEAVE.

Joel claims that being under “suspicion” makess you guilty and with that Joel is supposedly taught by Christ this allows us to condemn people to hell. INSANE!!  SUSPICION IS NOT PROOF. Can we condemn YOU TO HELL for being a false prophet?? Can we condemn Amy To hell for not speaking out against the unbiblical rituals Bethany practices(Benny Hinn’ Slain In The Spirit, babbling called tongues), Can we condemn you to hell for abandonding Baton Rouge after Gustav for shopping sprees?  Can we condemn Larry Stocktill to hell for lying to the congregation that he would make the biggest sacrifices during the 20/20 vision and is constantly on vacation? Did you practice fruits of righteousnesss by lying via Jordan Jopling that you went to West Palm Beach For Dialysis only?

IF YOU CAN CONDEMN M.J. TO HELL FOR SUSPICIONS SURELY WE CAN CONDEMN YOU TO HELL FOR STRONG EVIDENCE? Or does your rules only apply to blacks?

One thing history tells us is that many Christians from the Bible to modern times were killed UNDER SUSPICIONS by the governing authorities? According Joel’s standards this was enough to condemn them to hell. I would hate to see you sit in a jury. According to your standards, YOU SHOULD HAVE WEEKEND VISISTS TO HELL!  Surely the thief on the cross led a horrible and unfruitful life yet AGAIN, in his last breath he was saved. WHY NOT FOCUS ON THAT?

Let’s focus on your unfruitfulness!!

  1. FAILED PROPHECIES
  2. ABANDONING B.R. FOR SHOPPING SPREES AFTER GUSTAV DESTROYED BATON ROUGE
  3. QUOTING SCRIPTURE OUT OF CONTEXT
  4. CLAIMING TO HER GOD WHEN IN CONTRADICTS SCRIPTURE
  5. HOLDING A DOUBLE STANDARD FOR BLACKS
  6. PRAISING THE GOD OF EASTER(a pagan idol)
  7. ALLOWING JORDAN JOPLING TO LIE FOR YOUR ABSENCE
  8. WHAT ABOUT THE DEATH OF YOUR SICKLY WIFE?
  9. DOULBE STANDARDS, ONE FOR BLACKS AND ONE FOR WHITES

 

According to your standard Joel, YOU’RE OFF TO HELL!!  Where does Joel get his information that he spreads to Bethany? The same anti-minority news channel he quoted during the election, FOX NEWS NETWORK! He’s emulating Republican Rep. King who called Michael Jackson “A PERVERT” due to suspicion only. Rep. King stated “there’s nothing good about this person”. click here for latest.

 

 

Jordan Jopling of Bethany, LIAR, LIAR!! Monday, Dec 22 2008 

     Jordan Jopling , who works with Joel Stockstill’s 220U, has recently felt the need to respond personally to me,Ovadyah, to defend Gov. Sarah Palin and Joel Stockstill. I’ll place his entire response unedited and respond below it. As many of us have already seen, it’s done more damage than damage control. Oh, when will they learn!!  Jordan Jopling thinks we’re all ignorant not realizing that the modern day racist speak in “code words” and WAS RECENTLY UPHELD IN A COURT OF LAW AS ADMISSABLE EVIDENCE.

 

jordan-jopling

 

Ovadyah,

You are seriously mixing up facts.

1) Joel Stockstill never has been and is not a racist. Those that accuse him of this only expose themselves as not knowing him or his family AT ALL.

2) Sarah Palin is outspoken about her Christian faith (as is Obama). The reason that the Church in America is behind her is that her history confirms this. Unlike Barak Obama, she does attend a Spirit-filled church  and the people she is associated with in Alaska back up her Christian lifestyle.

3) The accusations about Palin’s knowledge of Africa came out AFTER the election, Fox News said they wished they would have known, and Palin denied the accusations. All of this is on the video you link to, so please watch closely.

4) The Kim Clement prophecy you and Pastor Joel refers to does in fact claim that a vice presidential CANDIDATE…would shake things up. Did that not happen with Palin. Seems like the prophecy was fulfilled. Again, your own link supports this.

…would shake things up. Did that not happen with Palin. Seems like the prophecy was fulfilled. Again, your own link supports this.

5) Last, but most importantly: Pastor Joel went to West Palm Beach during the hurricane because he has kidney failure and must be on dialysis 3 times a week. Baton Rouge was without power for a week in most areas. He has a friend that lives there and stayed with them.

Please look at things objectively. When you interpret things based on a conclusion that you want, you will never see truth. You’re hurting yourself and everyone you lie to about these things.

 

 

Peace And Grace To You Jordan Jopling,

                                                           Upon reading your entire e-mail I was reminded of how Sen.John McCain(R) had to constantly remove Gov.Sarah Palin’s foot from her mouth when she attempted to conduct interviews without supervision.  She attempted to be a big girl and turned into a big embarassment for women across America and Sen.John’s campaign. As a result, John McCain felt the need to start sitting-in these interviews and interjecting before Sarah could further embarrass the Republican Campaign and cause Republicans to start jumping-ship and making an exodus towards PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA.

 

     In other words, You’re Joel Stockstill’s John McCain and Joel is of course your Sarah Palin, constantly putting his foot in his mouth and embarrassing his father’s Campaigns. Bethany now sees an exodous of their biggest financial supporters(African-americans) returning to their own churches from which Bethany seduced them from. I will respond to your claims in the same order as you numbered them. But first realize, that we’re not ignorant we know the racist CODE WORDS.  Even the courts of law recognize that the new racist speak in code.  Haven’t you seen the code that the N.Y. Time spoke in when they were clearly calling President Obama a monkey in their cartoon!?

 

I GUESS THIS IS NOT RACIST EITHER HUH JORDAN?

I GUESS THIS IS NOT RACIST EITHER HUH JORDAN?

 

1.)You claim that Joel Stockstill is not a racist yet he never extended the same courtesy and praise to PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Obama which he blindly gave to Sarah Palin. Joel Stockstill emulates the new racist. They provide one standard for whites and another standard for African-Americans. Joel NEVER gave us any negative concerns about Sarah Palin; Joel never exposed Sarah Palin’s questionable company but never had a problem with whipping the backs of the black folks(Jesse Jackson, Oprah Winfrey) with his berating tongue who supported PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Obama.Why not do the same with the questionable folks who supported Palin and McCain?! This is the same characteristics of the new racists,i.e., a double standard for blacks.  We fell for those tactics with Bush and Govenor Foster but NO MORE, AMEN!!  Bush is the biggest joke to ever land in the White House. If Joel’s not a racist he’s definitely adopted and simulated their behavior during THIS presidential campaign. Walk like a duck, talk like a duck, he’s a duck. Oh yeah, I’ve noticed all of the rewriting Joel has been doing to his blog entries. Will this fool the black majority? Probally, sad but probally. I know of many who deify the Stockstills.

Remember when Tiger Woods entered golf and the racist comment made by his colleage. The other whites came to his defense and stated the same thing your’re saying, “You just have to know him, he’s not a racist”. It seems everytime a white gets caught in such a bind their “brothers” come with the exact same defense, “You’ve got to to know him”. We minorities know that double standard!! We know the code words!! We know the berating words!! We know when LSU hangs that REBEL FLAG, they’re racist!! Depsite folks stating, “You just don’t understand us” or “it shows you just don’t know us”, we are just expressing southern pride. These are the signs/symptoms you ignore. I don’t blame you for your ignorance. Everyday minorities encounter certain phrases and quips by whites that set off alarms in their heads. It’s not until they get home from work that they call their fellow and state, “You won’t believe what so-and-so said today” and when it gets out…here comes that white guy with, “You just have to understand so-and-so he’s just old-school or you just gotta know him”. It makes us sick!!

 

Another example is his dad’s, Larry Stockstill’s blog entry about “THIS PRESIDENT “is another sign/symptom. Larry calls President Obama, “THIS PRESIDENT….”  AND NOT  “Our President” but a demeaning “THIS PRESIDENT“.We know YOU and we know JOEL. “THIS PRESIDENT”??!! At Southern University and black churches that statement says a lot and is similar to the other racist in Louisiana. Larry has claims in his blog maybe racial strife is coming to an end??!! Obviously not Bethany! He claims many whites voted for President Barack and claims to have rejoiced over this as proof that racism is coming to an end. WOW…Now he wants to praise President Barack, LOL! It was clear during the campaigns who He was voting for and it’s clear from his description of PRESIDENT BARACK as “THIS PRESIDENT” and not “OUR PRESIDENT” that shows his concealed prejudice, it just kills Larry Stockstill to say, “OUR PRESIDENT”.

There have been many half-truths about whites voting for Pres. Barack. Yes, many voted for this black man, however, THE MAJORITY DID NOT!! Despite the record breaking number of Black registrered voters, the white vote won Louisiana for McCain and Palin. What side was Joel on? The majority of black folks in his church or did he stick with his skin clan? It’s amazing how this white kid is leading our black elders.

 

  • How did they get so seduced from their churches??!!
  • How did our black leaders give up their STRUGGLE for freedom from white authority and later submit to white authority(Stockstills)??!!
  • How did Bethany trick our elders not to support President Barack??!!
  • How did our small family churches become empty and the Stockstills’ fill up?
  • How did our people abandon their historical civil rights churches for the Stockstill’s authority??!!
  • How did we stop supporting historic churches for new-age occultic experiences??!!
  • How did we become embarassed of our roots??!!

 

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       It’s important to examine what Larry says about the racial divide. He made the claim that whites voting for Barack is proof that racial tension is healing. So would it not be logical that those who didn’t vote for Barack prove just the opposite? So with that in mind….

 

It’s clear the whites at Bethany who didn’t give President Barack their vote are not part of Larry Stockstill’s proof that whites voting for Pres. Barack shows racial healing. I would agree with Larry Stockstill that whites voting for a black President shows that some are healing that racial divide and are fulfilling Martin Luther’s dream that they didn’t see the color of his skin. It also brought out what was hidden under Bethany’s skin. Yes, Larry Stockstill is attempting to praise Pres. Barack ,NOW, BUT DID EVERYTHING IN HIS STRENGTH DURING THE ELECTION(with Joel’s support) TO ENSURE BARACK WOULD NOT BECOME OUR PRESIDENT. But now that his man lost and Joel’s black congregation is disgruntled about their comments, the Stockstill’s are attempting to seduce them back under THEIR authority and keep their fore-fathers churches empty.

 

     Furthermore, to elucidate how the WHITES OF LOUISIANA voted I guide you to the research by New Orleans Newspaper, The Times Picayune.  Even without their research it was clear that LOUISIANA WHITES WERE NOT GOING TO SUBMIT TO A BLACK PRESIDENT, yet blacks elders submit to a white kid(Joel Stockstill).  The article is archived at nola.com click here to access it, it also contains a visual map of the breakdown. Again, which side was Joel on. Here is a concise quote of their research:

 

 

“However, while Obama was improving on Kerry’s performance in most states — including such critical battlegrounds as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and North Carolina — he did worse than Kerry among white voters in a handful of states — ESPECIALLY Alabama, Mississippi and LOUISIANA.”

 

AND THEN THEY SADLY CONCLUDED

 

“They[LOUISIANA, ALAMBAMA,MISSISSIPPI] are moving contrary to the rest of the country,” said Bositis, who said Obama’s race — and the historic pattern of racially polarized voting in these states — seemed the most obvious reason.”

 

 

2.)Gov.Sarah Palin wasn’t outspoken about her Christian faith, she constantly referred to herself as a “MAVERICK”, I rarely heard Jesus or Scriputre or Praying and turned her campaigns to small white towns as the “real americans”. Furthermore the “Church of America” was not behind Sarah Palin, it was the WHITE CHURCH that was behind Sarah Palin,. 

 

     There goes that double standard again, you stated unlike Barack Obama’s Church Sarah Palin’s is “Spirit-Filled”. If a church doesn’t have the Holy Spirit then it’s logical to conclude it isn’t Christian; You can’t be saved unless you’re Spirit-Filled. What a judgement you’ve made against our President!! I’ve seen the hostile whites at McCain’s campaigns, even Sen. John. McCain had to ease white voters because they scaring off a lot of minority voters. Yet, nobody at Bethany’s blogs pointed out those white-pride Christians! Nobody at Bethany rebuked Palin for her shopping spree of $150,000.00 during a terrible economy. That didn’t show good stewardship. Why the double standard??!!

We know that our church leaders prayed over President Barack.  So I guess these blacks elders fall under your double standard of not being “Spirit-Filled”. It’s a beautiful picture of blacks not falling prey to white intimidation. I feel sorry for the blacks in Bethany’s 220SU. Brothers and Sisters view the pic’ in the link below, my family actually placed this above our fireplace encased with the American Flag. I know JORDAN JOPLING  how you feel about the black church. You clearly stated it above(#2)Unlike Barak Obama, she does attend a Spirit-filled church”.

 

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SPIRIT FILLED ELDERS PRAYING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA

 

3.)O.K. there’s not much too say about Number-3….OF COURSE Gov. Palin is going to deny it. She also claim that she read many magazines on the economy and couldn’t name one. She responded to Katie Kouric with “Oooh I read the ones put before me“, “Oooh I read lot’s of em”, LOL!! Again, not much to say about her truthfulness. That was hillarious. What a Spirit-filled woman! She was spirit-filled(not Holy Spirit) and spoke with lying tongues.

 

 

4.)Sarah Palin didn’t shake things up!! Not unless you mean she shook things up so hard their campaign deteriorated and caused Republicans to vote for Pres. Barack(Gen.C.Powell and Armstrong Williams)Yeah in that case she shook things up allright! Plus, anyone can make vague prophecies like that and they do, it’s big business cause their are so many gullible customers. However, my definition of shaking things up would’ve been a win not a huge loss!! Even John McCain says he sees more qualified people than Sarah Palin who he hill support for the 2012 Presidency. If she was part of Prophecy it’s definitely not the one by Kim Clement. Gov. Sarah was a panicked reaction when the whites saw President Barack had a chance to win even without Hillary Clinton as Vice President. Furthermore, not one Stockstill blogged, revealed, or rebuked Sarah Palin’s daughter(Bristol Palin) for SEX OUT OF MARRIAGE and a BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK!! Instead they continued focusing on Barack Obama! Bristol Palin gave birth to her child AND STILL REMAINS UNMARRIED!! What bias you and the Stockstills have!

 

 

5.)You’re definitely doing damage control on this one, LOL. Nowhere in his post does JOEL STOCKSTILL even hint that he had to travel to one of the most expensive and richer city in the U.S. FOR “DIALYSIS” or that he stayed with a friend in West Palm Beach. In his blog entry he clearly states it was “Hot and sticky” in Baton Rouge and when he arrived in West Palm Beach it was nice to get “A.C.” Or in his own words….

 

 

“NOTHING WORSE THAN NO AC!”

 

     If his dialysis treatments were that effected, he sure didn’t complain about it or seek treatment in Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, or the very close pan-handle of Florida. I’m sure there were no immediate areas for this Prosperity Preacher but “West Palm Beach” where the average single family home in 2007 was $396,000.00. For someone who constantly blogs about his health he definitely didn’t this time. In his words, “NOTHING WORSE THAN NO AC!”.

 

     Futhermore, I know people who are treated at the same facility(one is a family member who needs to stop smoking, yeah I went there on ya, LOL) and they were directed to alternate sites that were IMMEDIATELY restored. On top of that, anyone listening to the news knows that even the surrounding neighborhoods of hospitals recieved electricity. I’m also sure none of the surrounding parishes were able to take him. It’s ironic how my family member who receives the same number of treatments per week was able to remain in Louisiana and get treatment. I’m going to interview more patients and see how far they had to travel, I’m sure they couldn’t travel to West Palm Beach.

 

     Finally, he makes no mention of thanks to his “friend in West Palm Beach” for allowing him to stay in their West Palm Beach House. HOWEVER, he does state that some friends came down to visit him and join in the $hopping $pree$!! It would make more sense to thank his “friend” in West Palm Beach for allowing him to stay at his house. If he stayed with his friends in Orlando, Joel wouldn’t have said they “came down” to visit him and join in the $hopping $pree$. These friends had to travel from Orlando to West Palm Beach which is approximately 170.97 MILES which is about 2HOURS AND 42 MINUTES. Yeah but he stayed with them, SHAME ON YOU JORDAN!! Like my momma says, “TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL”.

 

“Today I had the opportunity to hang out with my good friends Jonathan and Christina Miller, who came down from Orlando. We preceded to hit EVERY MALL IN THE AREA and do some major damage of our own!”

 

     Hmmmm, sound like they were visiting his AC not vice-versa. But keep attempting to clean up behind your Sarah Palin everytime he puts his foot in his mouth! From the above evidence you clearly need to learn objectivity and stop with the damage control. Just repent and move on. Sarah Palin failed, Joel hated being without AC, and Obama is OUR President. I know it disgusts you to see that black face in a high place AND I LOVE IT!! HOW DID IT HAPPEN, huh?! Too bad FOR YOU America isn’t like THE WHITE DIXIE SOUTH!! Amen.

 And yes, I already know what Bethany is going to do to keep their biggest financial contributors(African Americans). They will promote  more black faces in high places(teachers, front pew with more black folks). The sad thing those black faces are not from black places. I’ve read their profiles they didn’t grow in black neighborhoods or went to black schools (high school or college). They’ve allowed the Stockstills to assimilate their culture.

***Please note I will interview my family member and staff at that dialysis center to get exact details concerning Gustav’s effects on their patients. But even without it, we’ve seen you’re Maverick cleanup. Again, I’m sure the other Parishes didn’t have dialysis centers or the surrounding states. It’s ironic how my family member was able to receive treatment here and didn’t have the access to church’s money for travel. I’ve also noticed Joel has added/edited his Palin Part2 blog, LOL. Feeling the heat huh?

False Prophet Kim Clement Wednesday, Nov 26 2008 

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord(Jer.23:16).

 

“This is what the Lord says– your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: who foils the signs of false prophets and makes fools of diviners(Is.44:24-25)

 

     Well, now it makes sense why The Stockstill’s at Bethany are so pro-bush! They submit to the prophecies of TBN false prophet, Kim Clement. Kim Clement constantly receives prophecies from God about how a godly man George W. Bush is and how he’s such a prayer warrior.

 

Like Joel and Larry Stockstill, Kim Clement claims to be a biblical prophet. Their prophecies have a 50/50 chance of being fulfilled. The more vague it is, the more probable.

Like Joel and Larry Stockstill, Kim Clement claims to be a biblical prophet. Their prophecies have a 50/50 chance of being fulfilled. The more vague it is, the more probable.

 

 

     I can say false because a prohet who claims to speak on behalf of The Almighty God can not be 50% correct, he must be 100% correct. Why? Because it’s real easy to be correct half of the time and amaze the simple minded. It’s not their correct hypothesis we should hold to but their failed prophecies. Unfortunately, Bethany constantly brings up this False Prophet as a resource and the Stockstill’s words are identical to Kim Clement’s words. Let’s look at one of Kim Clement’s obvious failed prophecy concerning Bush; link also provided for reference:

Tribute to President George W. Bush 
Nov 2, 2004

In honor of President George W. Bush, posted below are a few words of prophetic significance given by Kim, regarding his destiny to lead our Nation. On October 12, 2004 Kim was privileged to personally minister a word to President George W. Bush in Paradise Valley, AZ.
 

October 24, 2004- Humble, TX
“The Spirit of God has announced that, you have looked at candidates for the next four years. I have looked at a man after my own that will pray. I am looking and have searched for a man who would pray in the house called White, and I have found that man. He shall pray. He shall pray sturdily, powerfully, until the year 2006…and a great storm shall rise upon America. But because of the prayers of George W. Bush, I will save this country from a damage and a destruction upon your economy and upon your children.

Yes, you may look at this prophet and say, what would he know about American politics? But I have taken the mantle that rested upon Ronald Reagan in the heart and have placed it upon this man—President Bush. For what purpose? To bring again honor and dignity to the office of the President of the United States of America.

Nations shall come one by one and they will say, we were mistaken. France! France…who once buried the dead of American soldiers because they fought for you. You will repent for what you have done secretly. Three things shall be exposed because of transactions that took place in France and two other nations. And they shall be repentant. And your allies will increase. Four of your enemies shall become allies, and in the Middle East I will raise up honor because of what this Nation has done. Rejoice, for I am raising up laughter and joy upon your Nation.

A record has been broken. A President has broken a record. I see headlines. Impossible! Nothing, nothing, nothing is impossible.

And they are going to say it’s impossible because of what happened in this election and what happened with the President that broke a record. Listen to me. Nothing is impossible to those that believe.”

 

     George W. Bush is a man after God’s own??!! The economy ((((DID collapsed))))), gasoline rose to an all time high, 401k retirement plans lossed thousands of dollars,thousands of jobs were lost, and the United States received a devasting attack by Muslim extremist/terrorists. If this was the result of a George W. Bush’s praying I don’t want him praying for me and my house. What really got me was the “HOUSE OF WHITE”. Uh…that’s about right!

     This prophet claims that God’s mantle was on George W. Bush, “For what purpose? To bring again honor and dignity to the office of the President of the United States of America.” U.S.A. has lost much honor and dignity in the eyes of the world. George W. Bush has made the office of Presidency a joke in the eyes of America’s citizens. Has George W. Bush really fulfilled the false prophet’s purpose because God has exposed this “christian” as a fraud.

     “Nations shall come one by one and they will say, we were mistaken.” and “they shall be repentant“!!?? O.K., Kim Clement needs to test the Spirit(s) that he consults in divination because  the  U.S.A. has received several rebukes not other countries submitting to us in repentance.

 

     Even the black republican & Christian Armstrong Williams commented:

 

Armstrong Williams, an African American conservative and talk radio host who is not an Obamacon but said he might become one: “I’m not going to just blindly go to the polls and vote for someone because they’re a Republican anymore. I wouldn’t have given two cents of thought to this in the past, but fortunately I’m maturing and fortunately for the first time in my life I could vote for a Democrat for president.” Williams refuses to base his vote on race, “however the stain of America is race, human slavery and de jure segregation and no one can ignore the fact that since the founding of this country, only white men have occupied the White House.”

 

    That’s good to hear because I remember living up North and constantly hearing Armstrong’s radio show and how be chastised other minorities for going against the the republicans which he saw as Christian. I agree we can not ignore the facts. In particular, we can not ignore the past 8years and claim George W. Bush is a man after God’s own.

 

One can go on and on about this false prophet who sways toward whoever is in power!! In contradiction to Bush being a man of prayer and a man after God’s own and God will save America BECAUSE OF  the prayers’ of Bush NOW SAYS:

 

 I will bring you out of what they call a recession into your highest economy that you’ve ever had in your next four years, says the Spirit of God.

 

Now remember, during Bush’s reign as Presidency he was supposed to care of America through the power of prayer. But now Kim Clement wants to hop on the Obama band-wagon. I pray that Barack won’t fall for Kim’s tricks and consult his divinations. President Barack(Blessed) please use discernment. It’s a little interesting though despite all the signs and symptoms Kim Clement like Bush fails to call it a recession and maintains “…what THEY CALL a recession….”. It is what it is.

However, He still holds in “prophecy” that Bush will be vindicated by God. It’s not the media it’s the economy that testifies against George W. Bush!! Kim states in his prophecy:

 

Your present President will not leave his office or his term in shame.  There will be a very precise vindication  of numerous things that were scorned, that were mocked by men that thought they knew but understood nothing.  And when the baton is handed over, God said there shall be no fear in the nation.  Now take that and be secure. 

 

 

Kim Clement is a trip. He’s definitely playing both sides of the fence. Kim Clement cites an article where uranium was removed secretely from Iraq as proof that Bush is vindicating for entering Iraq. The problems that arise with this:

 

  1. We’re suppose to be hunting for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan NOT IRAQ
  2. The terrorist responsible for 911 are Al-Queda NOT Iraq’s President
  3. The uranium of Iraq was NOT weapons grade
  4. According to the International Courts, the uranium was legal to possess(however Bush went against them and started his war)

 

And speaking of the war Bush claimed about two years ago the war was a success AND OVER.  Yet go and research as to how many of our children have died since then. Kim Clement’s ‘prophecies” are so broad. There is even one where he attempts to explain away because it never came to pass.  So he says well it could mean this or it could mean that, LOL. and the sheep continue to get fleeced. The ones that do come to pass are so obvious a blind man could have seen these events coming.

 

    In repsonse to the crashing economy, he now claims God told him it’s only for a short time. This is in total contradiction to Bush’s prayers and a Man after God’s own.  The economy with the 2nd. election of George Bush was supposed to great and bring HONOR. This dude is a clown!! Link below to see his revision of prophecy….

 

Dear Warriors,

    I would like to take a moment to encourage you in regards to the present economic crisis.

 

Be careful my people

Bethany’s Black Congregation Pt.2 Tuesday, Nov 25 2008 

Peace In The Name of Christ Jesus Who Reveals The Deceptions of Men:

 

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     It seems the more and more I read and re-read the blogs of Bethany’s leaders and interview members of their congregations, the more my heart aches at the obvious prejudice coming forth. George W. Bush was likewise hailed as a mighty Christian(Methodist) and as we have seen he was a total embarassment. The man even stocked the shelves of The Lifeway Christian Bookstore by the Bluebonnet Mall.  LIFEWAY Christian Bookstore even carries not ONE BUT TWO of Sarah Palin’s books

  1. Sarah Palin: Faith, Family, Country
  2. Sarah: How A Hockey Mom Turned The Political Establishment Upside Down

 

The employees looked at me like I was nuts for asking if they had any Obama books since they had Bush’s AND Sarah Palin’s books. After questioning two of the cashiers as to why they replied, “ISN’T HE A MUSLIM?”. What??!! 

Seeing how Bush clearly screwed up America, how can we say he was sent by God?! His election to office stings the Black community so much THE CHURCH SHOULD REPENT for endorsing him. They got him elected!! Do we hear of BETHANY repenting for endorsing such a leader?! Nope!! They want to continue with the same old Bush-Doctrine.  

     To show how Bethany continues to deceive people. MARK AND CONNIE WILLIAMS commented to Joel’s blog about Sarah Palin being Spirit Filled and endorsed by Prophecy(via Kim Clement) stated:

 

In Hebrew, Sarah means ‘noble woman’ (Strong’s 8283).

In Greek, the word Palin means ‘renewal.’ (Strong’s 3825).

She indeed is a noble woman who will bring renewal to this country. A desperate need indeed for the poor state of our nation when folks don’t care about what’s on the heart of the Father. They just care about their agenda being promoted.

 

     First, there are some half truths in the above comment. Sarah indeed means a noble woman, i.e., a princess. Why because the biblical Sarah(Gen.17:16) would have Kings(children) come forth from her. However a noble woman or an annointed princess:

 

  1. Would know Africa was a continent
  2. Wouldn’t spend $150,000.00 of donations on clothes in only 2months with a suffering economy
  3. Wouldn’t lie about reading economy magazines and couldn’t name ONE!
  4. Wouldn’t end up with a pregnant unwed teen!!
  5. Would’ve won the election if it were really GOD’s will

 

     The leaders at Bethany should remove the BEAM from Sarah Palin’s eyes before they dwell on the splinters in Barack’s eye.  

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 Futhermore, Mark and Connie Williams are stating half the truth. The Greek word “PALIN” in fact means “RENEWAL” but that’s not the whole dictionary entry!! It means “renewal or REPETITION of action”. Click here to see the dictionary entries and start with Matthew to see how it’s used. The word “PALIN” is renewing what has been done NOT destroying the old and starting freshSort of like Sarah Palin REPEATING THE ACTIONS OF BUSH. Repeating the same lack of knowledge. Repeating the same old lies!! Renewing Bush’s policies, starting again.

 

 

THE SECOND LIE is posted by “JOSH O” where he quotes John 4:14 and lies about the greek behind the words “SPRINGING UP” meaning “PALIN” in the original greek. Brothers and Sisters click here and check their claims and stop ignoring the warning signs that they ARE DECEIVING YOU!! The greek word PALIN is nowhere in John 4:14. These people know you either don’t have the means to check or you trust them so much, you wouldn’t dare test what they say.  Thayer’s and Smith’s Greek Lexicon states that the word translated as “springing” is the original Greek word ALLOMAI(Strongs#242) which means to leap or gush up; it depends on the context.  Again, My Brothers and Sisters you have to examine what these people say!!

 

     As the responder “The Undeniable Truth Speaking” stated on Oct.05,2008

We have had EIGHT YEARS of a very conservative president, and six years of a conservative congress, and now after Justice Alito and Roberts, a conservative Supreme Court. But, abortion and gay marriage are STILL LEGAL. Sarah Palin does not have a clue on how to explain almost anything but energy and being “mavericks.” She cannot control her own children, nevertheless the USA.
P.S.
Sarah Palin did pass legislation in Alaska giving SAME-SEX COUPLES THE SAME RIGHTS AS MARRIED HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES adding to the very few states that allows this.

 

   

Furthermore, as a surname, Palin has a much different meaning as noted by ANCESTRY.COM

 

palin Name Meaning and History

  1. Welsh: Anglicized form of the Welsh patronymic ap Heilyn ‘son of Heilyn’, which is probably a derivative of a word meaning ‘to serve at table’.
  2. English: habitational name from Palling in Norfolk or Poling in Sussex. These were named in Old English with the personal names Pælli and Pal respectively, + -ingas ‘followers of’, ‘dependants of’.
  3. French: unexplained.

Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-508137-4

 

I will be the first to admit that Obama isn’t perfect, only Christ. What disturbs me is the over-and-beyond endorsements and courtesy that McCain and Palin received from the leaders of Bethany. In their Pre-election Posts the calls for prayer that God would lead her in the right direction(WHY NOT BARACK OBAMA?) and how she is a Christian(WHY NOT BARACK OBAMA?), Joel, why can’t Barack Obama’s family represent America? Is it because they don’t look like yours?!

 Please Brothers and Sisters don’t ignore the deception of Bethany(House of Misery). God has showed you too many warning signs. How long will you sit and pray inside of a burning house before you finally take in all of the signs God is sending and GET OUT!!! Stop being complacement! Stop igoring the warning signs! It reminds me of the parable about the man stuck in the Hurricane’s flood waters:

 

     There was once a man who lived in the city of New Orleans. He was watching the news and heard about the “mother of all storms” heading his way. He replied, “I claim safety, all I need to do is pray”. As the storm drew closer and grew bigger he replied, “I stand on the word and pray for safety”. As the Hurrican hit land and the flood waters began to rise. The man steadfast in his faith replied, “I claim safety in Jesus name”. A police officer began pounding on his door, “Get out, I can still drive you to safety”. The main replied, “I’m waiting on Jesus to save me, that’s why we pray, things will change, I claim it”.

     The waters, without warning, caused the man to retreat to his rooftop. The U.S. Coastguard flew over his home and sent down a basket for the man to enter. He shoved it away and claimed, “I claim safety and will wait on God to change things”. Needless to say the waters rose too high and the man drowned.

     Upon entering heaven and standing face to face with Christ(blessed be he), the man asked, “Master, I stood in faith and prayed continually for things to get better but you LET ME DROWN!! Why didn’t you save me??!!

     Christ repsonded, who do you think sent the Deputy, Coastguard, and forecast warnings!! The man’s head sunk into his chest in shame.

 

     How long will you sit in Bethany and ignore the warning signs?!

Seeing how I don’t endorse TBN, due to it’s corrupt priesthood and failed prophecies, I had no idea who Kim Clement was. A simple Yahoo.com search revealed several CHRISTIAN ministries WARNING Christians of this false prophet.