Joel Stockstill, Persecuted Prophet??!! Tuesday, Jun 2 2009 

Peace And Grace Be Upon The Assembly of God Who Have Been Blessed With The Gift of Discernment

 

 

     First, a little history of those unaware. Joel Stockstill has a history of failed prophecies, in particular, he prophesied that Christ was going to heal his wife from her disease on the foundation of poor hermeneutics; See Here. The Biblical Prophets were very different from False Prophets by the fulfillment of their prophecies. Joel’s history is hit and miss; He misses on the details but when he speaks like a French Quarter Palm Reader with vagueness, he’s able to coerce his prophecies into a hit.

 

Second, he proclaimed Gov. Sarah Palin as an annointed princess versus President Obama. He campaigned for her via his website with article praising her Christianity and family as annointed. He along with the other false Televangelist/Prophet Kim Clement claimed Sarah Palin would “shake things up” during the election process. This is where he “hits” because the prophecy is so vague, it can be fulfilled no matter what. Wouldn’t a African American Christian President being elected considered to be “shaking things up” rather than a dense barbie like Palin whose daughter is pregnant unwed teen?

 

However,  his campaigning (or as Joel dressed it up) “Prophecy” about Sarah Palin caused a split in his predominately black congregation.  Joel, with the help of other managers, were able to divide and conquer this protest.  However, some continue to attend the church yet remain against Joel Stockstill and surely let him know it. These blacks only attend because of their loyalty to their Cell-Leader and friends.  Yet, this remnant continues to speak their minds and JOEL KNOWS IT!!

 

 

Joel Stockstill, Persecuted Prophet or Cry Baby?

Joel Stockstill, Persecuted Prophet or Cry Baby?

 

As a result,  Joel seeks more pity and dresses himself up like a “PERSECUTED PROPHET”. He uses a lone verse from Hosea(9:8) which states:

 

The Prophet, along with my God, is the watchman over Ephraim, yet snares await him in all his paths and hostility in the house of his God(V.8)

 

Joel obviously justifying his campaigning for Sarah Palin and the disturbance it caused, now claims to have “…snares await him in all his paiths and hostility in the house of his God(Hos.9:8)”.

 

The problem with Joel’s eisegesis is that Joel Stockstill IS NOT A BIBLICAL PROPHET no matter how many times he blogs about his claim AND Larry Stockstill IS NOT A BIBLICAL PROPHET despite him claiming to see visions of JUDGEMENT DAY approaching(this comes conviently in time for his latest book, The Remnant). Both so-called prophets have a history of failed prophecies. YOU CAN’T BE RIGHT SOME OF THE TIME YOU HAVE TO PROPHETICALLY CORRECT ALL THE TIME. I’m still awaiting an answer to my “Serious Question About The Stockstill’s Claim To Be Biblical Prophets“. Their propecies always comes in sync with either a book deal, conference, or members they can’t control.

 

Joel, having a double standard against Pres. Obama and being held accountable for it, doesn’t make you a Persecuted Prophet, it makes you a hypocrite and racist. One standard for whites and another for blacks. You still fail to speak about the lack of morality in the Palin houselhold with Bristol Palin’s out wedlock birth, yet you expose the splinters in Pres. Obama’s eyes.

 

You’re claim to be a Prosecuted Prophet is pathetic, God will continue to visit his judgements on your house and save the true victims.

Larry Stockstill’s Indirect Repentance Wednesday, Aug 27 2008 

PEACE AND GRACE IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS WHO GIVES US UNDERSTANDING AND FREEDOM

 

     I knew this day would come. The traffic that has dramatically increased to this site it was only a matter of time that word would get back to Larry Stockstill of Bethany.com concerning Ovadyah’s Weblog.

     If you will take time to remember Pastor Joel Osteen’s interview on Larry King Live viewed by many on CNN. Larry King specifically asked Joel if he truly believed the words of Christ that He was the only way to The Father and if Muslims reject Christ and never accept Christ will they get into heaven. Joel danced around the question and was obviously afraid to back up Christ and buckled like Peter in the courtyard! After several complaints from his congregation, Joel Osteen apologized but not directly/formally but on a link tucked away on the congregations website which I can no longer locate.

     That brings us to Larry Stockstill. The word has obviously reached his ears about a menacing man of God who is slowly exposing the corruption of his House of Poverty(Bethany). Again, from the influx of traffic over the past (4) days I knew it was inevitable. Larry Stockstill quickly added TODAY(Aug.27,2008)!!!

 

In today’s world of hype, complex and false doctrine, phony testimonies, wild visions, and weird practices, I come back to “simplicity and sincerity.”

 

     Wow, this is definitely a mouthful and a good start. As I said to Miss Marian’s emotional message, “I give credit where credit is due”.  We the people at Ovadyah are still on alert and will never let our guard down but again good start. 

     I remain on alert because it’s an indirect repentance. He describes todays church or in his words “today’s world”  as(using his adjectives, Webster’s definitions, my examples):

  • Hype– To put on or deceive. For example Pastor Steve Hill’s claim about Congressman, Police with prisoners, etc. flooding his Pensacola/Brownesvill Revivals.
  • Complex– Hard to analyze, e.g., the voices that Televangelist constantly hear from God which contradicts written Scripture(complex because the member becomes confused. If my pastor claims to be hearing from God why does he/she contradict Scripture?! I don’t want to be a trouble maker)
  • False Doctrine- Deceptive teachings, e.g., Benny Hinn’s slaying people in the spirit, T.D. Jakes denial of the Trinity,  Oprah’s denial that Christ is the only way)
  • Phony Testimonies– A public confession of a FALSE EXPERIENCE, e.g., Steve Hill recanting and later admitting to exaggerate his preconversion life in order to “INCREASE THE IMPACT” of his autobiography, “Stone Cold Heart” which was exposed by the local newspaper(Pensacola News Journal AND  Encyclopedia of Evangelism, Randall Balmer, Pg.107 entitled Brownesville Revival).
  • Wild Visions- Fake dreams/divine Revelation(s), e.g., visits to heaven, dreams confirmed as visions from God without being sure, retelling complex dreams but not sure of it’s meaning (if any).
  • Weird Practices – Slain in the spirit(or as many have experience, shoved/forced down by cell leaders’ hands) disorder in the church by encouraging everyone to talk out loud which obviously will lead to unintelligable words falsey labeled “Speaking In Tongues”, Giving up money to the church until it ruins your families future.

 

     I couldn’t describe Bethany any better! However, let’s give credit where it’s due. Pastor Larry goes on to confess:

“I come back to simplicity and sincerity.”

 

     A Christian who knows Scripture and baby greek/hebrew knows that the above statement is a loud and clear confession of REPENTANCE, i.e., “…come back….”. Pastor Larry is now realising or has realised that things are out of control despite the many Yes-Men surrounding him. Or has he realised he was wrong? It’s definitely “COMPLEX” because to the laymen indirect. Is he only saying what people want to hear and continuing his old ways?! The same could be said of Jimmy Swaggart’s confession. Though he displayed a flood of tears and a red face and publicly, directly, repented. How can we know for sure? Only time will tell, is he still allowing disorder in the church and calling it speaking in tongues, is he still allowing false doctrines to be taught because it’s popular, are those on-the-run televangelist still allowed to teach at Bethany?

     I hope that Pastor Larry is truthful in his repentance and this is not a “PHONY TESTIMONY”. An interesting lexicon entry by Easton’s Bible Dictionary states:

 

Evangelical repentance consists of (1) a true sense of one’s own guilt and sinfulness; (2) an apprehension of God’s mercy in Christ; (3) an actual hatred of sin (Psalms 119:128; Job 42:5,6; 2co 7:10) and turning from it to God; and (4) a persistent endeavour after a holy life in a walking with God in the way of his commandments.

The true penitent is conscious of guilt (Psalms 51:4,9), of pollution (51:5,7,10), and of helplessness (51:11; 109:21,22). Thus he apprehends himself to be just what God has always seen him to be and declares him to be. But repentance comprehends not only such a sense of sin, but also an apprehension of mercy, without which there can be no true repentance (Psalms 51:1; 130:4).”

 

     We’ll see……

Peace to you,

Ovadyah