Well, I decided to give in to requests on a new posts and stopped by Bethany.com to see if things are truly turning for the worse as readers claim. Lo’ and behold it’s true. Bethany has brought in a tattooed littered “prophet” Damon[FROM DEMON IN BIBLICAL GREEK] Thompson to prophesy to their congregation and get them in line. Any student of Biblical Greek will immediately recognize DAMON is a various of biblical greek which means DEMON!! Many baby-books try to clean it up to mean faithful but leave off the part of Faithful-DEMON. This DAMON does everything from humiliate the interns to admit he doesn’t get much Words From The Lord concerning the coming year. These should be red flags to the discerning christian. How can a prophet admit to rarely receiving prophesies?!
The tattooed littered prophet WAS a member of The Ramp Ministries for approximately 10-years. He made several disturbing statements concerning teen homosexuality. After making these crazy prophecies, the ministry split ways with him claiming The Holy Spirit was leading him in another direction. One claim was that gay-teen suicides were not from bullying but from the “demonic force of homosexuality.” He says:
“00:32 mark. I was flipping through the channels and watching a program you know what the program was about? It was about bullying! You heard this? Kids are killing themselves because they’re being bullied but what they’re not saying is the kid is not just miserable because he’s being bullied, he’s misrerable because HE’S GAY!! Cause there’s a lot of people that are bullied that never killed themselves! But the boy already hated himself BECAUSE HE WAS DEALING WITH THE DEMONIC FORCE OF HOMOSEXUALITY!!! I know y’all aint gonna help me with this. BUT I’M NOT GOING TO BOW DOWN TO THE CULTURE!! BEING GAY IS NOT NORMAL!!
Here we have the skin of the truth being stuffed with a lie. Yes, I agree homosexuality is not “normal”. However, this prophet in his violent rhetoric gives full pardon to those bullying gay teens by claiming it’s the victim who is demon possessed which hated himself to death not bullies. This is should be an embarassment to the Christian Church. Thankfully we have Christian Apololgist Hank Hanegraaf who notes that bullies are causing gay-teens to kill themselves. He adds that it’s not due to “christians” but “bullies”. After hearing Bethany’s prophet screaming and yelling, his disclaimer is hard to believe.
Anyway, back to “prophet”Damon Thompson who was given a platform at Bethany.com. Just a quick list(not exhaustive list) of additional red flags from his mouth in their video here:
01.25 mark -“The Holy Spirit gave me a vision on December 28th. I was driving…showed me 12 gates that would open in 2012….a state of Revival in Louisiana!” Here we go again, every year Bethany’s god is proclaiming this is the year of revival. Can your prophets come up with something new in first calendar month?!“01:52 Bethany is the hub for awakening America?!”. OMG, it’s the same recycled claims of Joel Stockstill and every other prophet they endorse. It definitely gives Bethany’s congregation a sense of hope. But don’t they get tired of hearing the same empty claims every first quarter of every year?!
“03:52 I don’t have that many friends. So the friends that I have are real good friends. I’m kinda like when uh Ike Clanton asked Doc Holiday in the shootout out in Tombstone. Y’all…y’all…Y’ALL NOT THAT SPIRITUAL ARE YA(emphasis mine)?!”. WoW, here is a so-called prophet of God, using a Rated-R movie to explain friendship to God’s Church and ask “Y’all not that spiritual are ya?!”. I can understand a newbie using a Rated-R movie to explain friendship but not a so-called prophet of over 10-years!!
05:40 “And I think Nick Saban’s name is in the Bible Code somewhere in Revlelations, it’s actually Satan. They just change they just changed the letter. I don’t know if that’s true. That’s just what I’m throwing out there. I don’t know….I don’t know…..you pray about it, see what you feel.”. WoW, a prophet of God calling fellow Christian Satan because he HATES Alabama State?! Damon Thompson’s character of a biblical prophet gets farther from Scripture, he’s more of a comedian to the world.
“05:52. Bethany’s prophet goes on to give a revelation by The Holy Spirit concering Acts 12. He forces a meaning onto The Book of Acts that is not there. This called Eisegesis, Allegory, and Scripture twisting. This has nothing to do with HIS 12 Gates Theory.
09:13. This Damon[Demon] goes on to do the worse Word-Study I’ve ever seen. His focus is the word “harass, Acts 12:1”. He claims this biblical word, based on the KJV/NKJV, “I don’t know if I could find a GREATER TRANSLATION of what the people that I’m most closely connected to went through in 2011. I guess not here.”. PROBLEM: If the Holy Spirit is giving a revelation to a prophet surely the Word-Study would NOT BE BASED ON ENGLISH and instead the Biblical Greek found in the MSS, κακῶσαί(KAKOSAI). The Congregations initial responses(nothing) was the right response. They know this text can’t be applied to them. They did not receive physical abuse from the government. This does not stop the Damon’s twisting of KAKOSAI.
The Damon claims the Holy Spirit showed him the following semantics based on prooftexting Acts 12:1′ KAKOSAI:
- Harassment last year(09:38)
- Some uncommon conflict last year(09:40)
- Some struggles within relationships(09:43)
- Some struggles with health(09:45).
- Some struggles within FINANCE(09:47)
- I saw people that I walked with, that I knew had a significant walk with The Lord begin to deal with some challenges last year BECAUSE 11 IS THE NUMBER OF TRANSITION and transition is challenging, transition is uncomfortable, transition is laborious(09:48)
WoW, absolutely a mishandling of God’s Word by this Damon! Again, The Congregation’s initial response was perferct, nothing. The Damon did not like their response and got some “Amens” from a few non-thinkers when we left the context of Acts 12:1 and forced his meaning of “SOME STRUGGLES WITH FINANCE(09:47)”!??
The whole of Acts 12:1-2 about Herod PHYSICALLY PERSECUTING The Church,i.e., KILLING THEM OFF! Here are some Key Words English first, original greek second, meaning last:
- LAID HANDS, ἐπέβαλεν-TO SEIZE/ARREST, χεῖρας-USE HANDS, κακῶσαί-TO INJURE(acts 12:1)
- PUT TO DEATH, ἀνεῖλεν-EXTERMINIATE/ANNIHILATE, μαχαίρῃ-DAGGER/STABBER.
This is what disturbs me about Bethany’s prophets. They constantly claim they Holy Spirit shows them these Word-Studies, yet their conclusion blatantly contradicts the text. These prophets even get insulted by the Congregations initial response and then tries to invoke their emotions.
Bethany World Prayer Center, PLEASE USE YOUR BRAINS AND STOP FOLLOWING DAMONS/DEMONS.
@12:25 mark, God is going to raise up a prayer movement that is going to rescue Apostolic-Function and move us into SIGNS, WONDERS AND MIRACLES THIS YEAR LIKE NEVER BEFORE”.
Another “Here we go again statment” from their prophets. So, like NEVER BEFORE(Biblical Times up to Jan.2012) we will see an SIGNS, WONDERS AND MIRACLES?! WoW, let me guess. January 2013 what Bethany’s prophets will foretell. “2013 will be the year of SIGNS AND WONDERS like never before!!”. SMH -_-
Thank you for your response to my email and linking to this post. Please keep up the analysis of BWPC. I am in total agreement with you
YES! finally an update!
This blog is a grammatical train wreck that I thoroughly enjoy.
GSM FOR LIFE!!!!
To the land of Buella!!!
Same old comments huh Jimmy?
Thanks for showing how you Stockstillians lie in wait for grammatical errors and can refute nothing else from my research and claims of your cult and its prophets.
THE STOCKTILL FAMILY IS TOUCHED BY GOD!!!!!!!! A TRULEY AMAZING FAMILY
GET OFF OF THEM N LEARN MORE ABOUT YOURSELF FIRST ARE YOU FOCUSING ON YOU N YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OR YOU JUST STUCK ON THE STOCKSTILL FAMILY?
I’m stuck on Demons named Damon who Bethany calls a prophet of god.
Touched By God? Or Touched by them checks with them big zeroes that keep getting written to them. I guess when we admire them like the Kennedy’s or the Rockerfeller’s or the Rothchild’s then you get stuck on a great family. Its amazing how people can hide behind the tv cameras and the websters dictionary and their wanna be great revivalist Tv evangelist copycat jargon and make you believe that they are “touched by God” Ida, guess what my fish are touched by God oK and they are a great family…..rotfl?
YOUR TRULEY OBSSESSED WITH THIS FAMILY
Once again, no supporting evidence, LOL. You Stockstillians are so silly.
Bethany has booked “Demon” next month to humiliate their interns and more Stockstillian Noob’s See below:
Guest Speaker: Damon Thompson
The Saturate Conference will take place June 20-22 at our South campus. Our guest speaker is Damon Thompson, who delivers a preaching ministry with a prophetic edge. God has raised up Damon to be part of a great spiritual awakening in the United States and throughout the world. He has seen revival break out in churches large and small, from a kaleidoscope of races and cultures, resulting in a phenomenal harvest of souls.
Neon Night & Hippo Fest
Some of the conference highlights are worship with the Deluge Band, Neon Night, and the Hippo Fest. Neon Night will be a chance for you to breakout your neon colors, dance under the black lights, wear your shades, and bring your glow sticks. This years hippo fest is over the top! We will have inflatable water slides, 50,000 water balloons, snocones, and so much more!
ROTFL!!!!!!
You know what? I went to the Conference and it was one of the most powerful gatherings i have ever been to. Damon had no ability to choose his name. He is blessed by God and your ignorance has blinded you from the fact that he is a mighty man of God. If you attended I imagine you would not be saying anything against Bethany church and Damon Thompson. If you listened to what he said at the conference you would leave petty things aside and be more concerned with your walk with God…
Powerful?! Scripture never denies that Demons are not “Powerful”. They can produce signs/wonders also.
Demon had no ability to choose his name BUT HE DOES have the authority to change it. Surely this Spirit filled profit(pun) knows the origin of his Shem(character/name). False prophets and cults are not petty issues.
Chandler, when the Apostles preached in the book of Acts, they did not need conferences or workshops to preach the word of God to change people’s lives. They preached by the convicting power of the Holy Spirit, they didnt need to use scare tactics to turn people into mindless zombies draining them of their finances and knowledge. Remember Jim Jones did that 34 years ago and minorities died believeing in his deranged self. Church is where you receive a life changing word and learn discipleship. Not have pastors trying to be People Magazine Celebrities trying to rule over your house. I’m the head of my house. God has entrusted me to rule of my house, Not Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, Ray Stevenson or Larry Stockstill.
DKF is friends with Jonathan and half the deluge band on facebook. Thats a big check over in the obsessed column. LOL ROFLCOPTER OMG OMG OMGand other childish sayings.
Is that right Fred J? And you Stockstillians wonder why there is no revival in the land. When you stop playing around with your Christian Cop Rock Punk Bands rocking out for Jesus and your laser tag light shows, and repent and cry out to God, then revival will come. The beginning New Testament church was ordained by God to preach repentance and salvation, It was not about grunging out for Jesus. Its so nice to see how you funnies like to keep tabs on people on this blog. I guess you spy on me when I take a shower too huh?…..Fred J you homo?
FYI Fred J: Music is not a spirtual gift, but an earthly acquired talent that is learned on the earth. Example. Just as much as you play tennis and study and pratice hard to become a tennis player or golf, or football, that is the same level you applied to become a better guitar player, keyboard player, etc. Jonathan is a talented piano player, I’m a very talented piano keyobard player, so what? Check out the True Church Perspective Podcast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2U2PzEJVE0 I’m also facebook friends with EX-Ministries and G. Craige Lewis. Does that mean I’m obsessed or that I seek and desire truth. Go back and look at the 220 flyer, we don’t need all of of this entertainment in the house of God. It’s nothing more but a distraction. And voids the presence of God of entering in.
@DKF – That was one of the worst arguments I’ve ever heard. Because you honed a skill on earth makes it an earthly talent? lol I guess those people who don’t know how or what to pray, but practice according to the Bible while on earth are really just building a repertoire of earthl-talents. haha
The congregation is dwindling, why? Only God knows. I will not condemn but the Holy Spirit must be allowed to move freely and not set aside for artificial mist, blinking lights etc. The ‘Glory cloud’ will appear when given a supernatural chance without the assistance of human effot! Love the Lord with all of your heart!
The Congregation is dwindling because they’re being exposed as the profit making business and cult it is.
i havent noticed any dwindle at all, you guys are nuts
Yes indeed. The dwindle is more and more apparent every week. I attend mostly at the South location now, but I was at the North location a couple of weeks ago and all except a small few of the pews at the upper levels were empty! More than half the church membership has left, and some of those who attend don’t even arrive until church is almost over anyway! People are leaving Bethany in droves, and I could notice some of the other members who were present looking around in amazement at all the empty space. It’s getting to the point where there will be no need for such a large auditorium-sized building. This is most likely the reason for all the fussing in the messages about “religious” people not participating in church activities and attending all those meetings and events. There’s hardly anyone left!
I attend the north campus on a regular basis. I will say that the north campus has lost a good amount of members. Though not because of the reasons you are saying. Though ironically or youth groups are steadily growing, along with the children ministry. Bethany is not perfect, I give you that but no church is either.
That’s because children are naive!
The youth is losing attendance too! I know so many people that have left. They are controling people with the fear of punishment. Kids are naive. Sad but true.
I could expose so many things about the youth ministry but even with all of its flaws I have grown in my relationship with The Lord. Thank God for his grace.
As Scripture shows, God has mercy on the deceived BUT WILL HAVE NONE FOR THE DECEIVERS. He will call his people out!
Check out Watchman Nee’s book Spiritual Authority chapter 3, both sides
Check out The Advocate Baton Rouge for the latest revelation on Watchman Nee. Thank God for His mercy and forgiveness for Watchman Nee.
I’m not sure what article you were referring to about Watchman Nee. A lady that lived under that Communist regime said he destroyed her faith.
“Hsu, a retired pediatric neurologist who practiced in Baton Rouge, describes how she gave up her faith for a time after hearing Nee admit sexual immorality and seeing him convicted of corrupt business practices.”
“Not very many Christians in the United States — or even in China — know he was excommunicated by the Shanghai Christian Assembly,” said Hsu, who insists Nee is not the martyr for the faith some make him out to be. “All the bad things have been covered up. The church leaders knew something, but they kept silent. I want to clear the fog.”
Here’s the link:
http://theadvocate.com/features/faith/3364444-123/book-challenges-watchman-nees-legacy
it doesnt negate anything of truth he wrote or spoke about.
Randal, Who are you referring to by “HE”? Demon Thompson or Watchman Nee?
I have been Delivered and Set free from that cult called Bethany!! Hallelujah! Keep this blog going…expose the FRAUD!!
DONNIE++++So I guess your Angelic, we all have flaw’s, but regarding Bethany as a cult is just pure ignorance on your part. If they were doing wrong, which I know in my heart their not, we will all be accountable on the day of judgement.
OVADYAH>>>Donnie, your statement is self contradicting. If Bethany isn’t wrong then what are these “Flaws” you’ve identified?
Donnie++++I was saved by Jesus Christ at the North campus in Aug of 1986 and for your information, no I don’t speak in tongue’s; I believe it is a gift from the Holy Spirit, not a requirement. If it is a requirement by God, then we don’t have a free will do we?
OVADYAH>>>Again, this blog isn’t about “Donnie’s Theology”, its about Bethany’s. Your opinion was pointless. What is Bethany’s statement of faith or official teaching on tongues? You failed to give it. I don’t care about YOUR theology.
DONNIE++++Like I said before, Damon does not mean demon;
OVADYAH>>>The Holy Bible I read(NA28, USB4) says it does. What reference or evidence can you provide to disprove me?
DONNIE:but before you start throwing stone’s; read the word Lived backward’s; and tell me what you come up with, its very interesting! Sincerely yours!
OVADYAH: What English scholar supports your ridiculous word study method? Where did you get this insane method of etymology?!
I don’t know where Bethany is, but I knew Damon in our youth, same school, etc. His parents are really good people, I admired them a lot, his dad in particular had a great positive influence on many young people in our home area. I was there when Damon started his ministry in 1996, and was closely involved with the first few years of it before he moved on. He’s a talented motivational speaker/cheerleader type.
I agree Dave if we were talking about “Cheer Leaders” Demon/Damon would be great. However, he claims to be a biblical prophet like the wolf Joel Stockstill. This is a huge problem in Non-Denominational Churches. They pick people who are good at conjuring up Teen-Spirit and not The Holy Spirit.
It is my experience that there are a LOT more problems in churches associated with a denomination than those without the label of a denomination.
Chaz, you do realize when you make a claim with absolutely no supporting evidence, that’s “OPINION”.
“I’d like to tell you something ovadyah, though I’m probably talking to a brick wall, I will try.”
OVADYAH>>>>Thanks for starting your post with an insult.
“You say the Stockstill’s are asking the congregation to give their house’s to the Church, well unless I was told by the Lord directly, there’s is no way I would give up my house, car etc. Jesus said His sheep hear His voice, and knowone comes to the Father but through Him.”
OVADYAH>>>>You are incorrect. I did not “SAY” The Stockstills are asking their congregation to give their houses to The Church. I posted a link that showed Bethany’s 20/20 program lists several ways in which the people can give over-and-beyond to The Church. Signing over their homes is one of those suggestions.
“Larry has been my pastor 25 yrs, and Jhonathan 2 1/2 yrs, I respect them greatly.”
OVADYAH>>>>Well, I don’t respect them and many others are contesting their pseudo signs and wonders. Joel is not a “prophetic voice” as he elevates himself to be.
“As far as damon,(demom as you say) I don’t see him as a prophet; no dis-respect to him, I see him as a teacher of the Word: same as Larry, Joel and Johnathan.”
OVADYAH>>>>>First, Damon means Demon! It’s not what I say, it’s what Biblical Grrek says.
>>>>>>Second, if you don’t see Damon/Demon as a Prophet or Joel as a “Prophetic Voice then you are contradicting their claims. You further contradict yourself because every prophet is a teacher BUT not every teacher is a prophet. I agree with you in one aspect, I ALSO don’t see them as prophets as they promote themselves.
” I believed in Prophets of the O.T, but now we are to teach the word, to one another. Its like the mormon church having 12 apostle’s they think were suppose to listen too just them; now thats a cult. And since Damon means demon to you, have you ever considered what the word lived means? it means devil backward’s.”
OVADYAH>>>>>Unfortunately, Scripture contradicts your claim that prophets were isolated to an “Old Testament”. The first prophet in The N.T. is John The Baptist. All of the gospels portray Christ as a Prophet. Paul also advocates and promotes prophecy over tongues. I agree Bethany’s prophets is just like The Mormon Cult, they’re phony!
>>>>Again, Damon means Demon in Biblical Greek. I will have to side with Scripture not your twisted an made tradition of arranging letters backwards and claim this to be proper word study. Is this how your Pastors/Prophets teach word study?!
“As far a melissa playing the harp at 4 who cares! the menendez brother’s killed their parent’s for their inheritence and lost it all anyway.”
OVADYAH>>>>O.K.? Your point? I never had a beef with Melissa playing the harp in and of itself. It was on the backs of poor people who flipped the bill.
” I’d like to go to various cities as well, but I can’t:; I’m on dialysis, and have been for 32 yrs; but I’m not going to let what I can’t do, stop other’s from doing what they can.”
OVADYAH>>>>Sorry to hear about your disability. Again, I never had a beef with dialysis patients, LoL. But thanks for sharing. My beef is with those who use their “dialysis” as a pretext for enrichment and vacationing in West Palm Beach.
“If Larry, Johnathan and Joel, and damon are wrong, they will be judged by the Eternal Father; including you and me; so before you start throwing stone’s and accusations whatever; take a long look in your backyard 1st; and take the beam out of thine own eye, then remove the plank that is in thy brother’s eye!”
OVADYAH>>>>First, you’re using the same tactics/defense that the unsaved use. When these DECEIVERS are caught they hide behind, “Dont judge me”. Any disciple involved in witnessing encounters this flimsy defense. However, the same thing can be sad to ANY LEADER. My concern is why doesn’t this rule apply to Bethany’s leaders?
“And a lot of people want the best for their children, just because we can’t have it, doesn’t make them wrong.”
OVADYAH>>>>If you claim to be a NON-PROFIT organization like Bethany, yes it is wrong! If you claim to work FOR-PROFIT like the poor people in the pews then no, it’s not wrong.
” Many upscale parents send their children to high costly institution’s, does that make them wrong as well; because they didn’t give it to the poor; hardly.”
OVADYAH>>>>Again, if you’re claiming to be FOR-PROFIT then no, it’s not wrong. You are clearly telling The Government you and your house is for getting rich and not for charity. Your organization has to pay certain taxes and can’t use scams like Bethany’s 20/20 program to have people sign over heirlooms ad estates.
“I pray for you with all my heart, that the Lord would open your eye’s of your heart in Jesus name I pray Amen! Stop looking at the monetary element, rather than Spirituality fact. I don’t have much to give, but I give what I honestly can, no more no less!”
OVADYAH>>>>Please do not pray for me as your discernment is horrible. The Spiritual Gift of discernment shows embezzlement of charitable giving from the poor.
C.C.++++You honestly disgust me, if you honestly cared for your spiritual well being, then you would go to a church that feeds you.
OVADYAH>>>>The Bible I read says man lives on The Words of God not Church institutions.
C.C.++++Instead you are pointing out tiny judgmental issues that everyone makes.
OVADYAH>>> What exactly have I pointed out that is “TINY” and should not be exposed at Bethany? That statement is very vague.
C.C.++++You need to look at your walk. If Bethany is so bad, dont go back, stop obsessing over Bethany…
OVADYAH>>>>I am called to defend the poor. You are obviously called to defend false prophets.
hello again,
this is sad. Damon came in June 2012 and tried to shame and guilt people into giving more of their hard-earned money. He made statements like he can tell how spiritual people are by whether or not they tithe or by how much they give. Spiritual abuse at its finest!!! We had Robert Morris of Gateway Church come and preach hiis scripture-twisting “Blessed Life” series! How shameful of these leaders who rob the poor and ignorant!! However, its just the tip of the iceberg of a much bigger problem. If you are aware the institutional church of today does not resemble NT Christianity. It is an institution of people who have put themselves as mediators between God and man. The translation of the Greek word “ecclesia” as Church in the KJV was intentional to support the unbiblical church institution. it is correctly translated as “assembly” in Acts chapter 19. Also Jesus said the greatest among you will be the chief servant. I recommend reading the article The Church: Distorted and Deformed at website http://www.wickedshepherds.com. Bethany recented did the Blessed Life series last month and tithing was again preached deceptively to encourage members to give more. It breaks my heart. But why leave that church to go another institution that basically tells you ” you’re not smart enough, gifted enough, anointed enough to know what God wants for your life and for your family’s lives, so be quiet and obedient or your family will be destroyed”? God said we are a royal priesthood (1Peter 2:9). I could go on brother, but thanks for taking a stand.
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