WWW.PULPIT-PIMPS.ORG Friday, Mar 13 2009

PEACE AND GRACE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS

 

Brother Melvin over at WWW.PULPIT-PIMPS.ORG has a posting which pretty much shows how the world views the church AND YES JOEL, I think it’s hillarious because these naive folks are in your congregation. CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO .

 

This brother has been sounding the alarm for years and was OFFICIALLY REBUKED by megachurches in his area. However, just like those gullible folks who deify The Untouchable  Stockstills, the naive don’t actually prove anything we say as wrong they just hurl adjectives like you’re “divisive, trouble maker, embarassing the church, twisting words, etc….”,

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Melissa Stockstill, European Royalty Thursday, Mar 12 2009

GREETINGS IN THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS OUR ONLY EXAMPLE AND SAVIOR

 

     I’m continued to be amazed at what the Stockstill’s get away with and how their lifestyles compare with those of their congregation. It’s clear why Larry Stockstill continues to advertise his Prosperity Gospel book, The Laws of Increase and claim that 2Sam.24:24 is about Capital Campaign which shows his members should give “over and beyond” their means.

 

 

Melissa Stockstill is another child of Larry Stockstill who the poor black congregation of Baker has put through college with their tithes/offerings. Melissa Stockstill showed up in December with so called “Royalty from London” to play a duet of Harps(CLICK HERE). On the video Melissa Stockstill informs the interviewer that she:

1. Started Playing The Harp At Four Years Old(what were you doing in the hood at four years old?)
2. Was Taught By An L.S.U. Teacher
3. When asked If She Travels Often, “Yes, I do”(Didn’t Larry Stockstill instruct via his 20/20 vision program for your families to make sacrifices. Why isn’t his family making sacrifices?)
4. She further admits she’s traveled to London “8 to 9 times within a year and half“!!  I’ve never known any of the poor black residents of Baker to have this privilege. I’m sure this LiL Sarah Palin is thankful for your tithes/offerings/sacrifices.

 After graduating from LSU (on the backs of those who will never see college) she moved to London to attend the Royal Academy of Music.

 

Question: How many children of Baker, La. have had these oppurtunities? Has Bethany supported your college tuition and traveling fees and Royal Music Lessons overseas??!! How many of your children have been able to TOUCH much less play a PRICELESS GOLDEN HARP?(READ HERE)

 

Melissa Stockstill is never seen with any of the Black members of Bethany, Why? She’s strictly European! This “Royalty” even copyrights her images. Visit her pics on Virb.Com and you’ll see she definitely doesn’t hold to the conservative views of her father. She shows a lot of skin(click here, I couldn’t post the pic here because she actually purchased to have them coyprighted). It reminds me of Sarah Palin and her daughter.

 

After checking the demographics of Baker, Louisiana, I see why The “SOUTH CAMPUS” WAS CHOSEN AND NOT THE ONE IN BAKER, LOUISIANA. Baker was not good enough to the Stockstill’s to host this ROYAL HARPIST. They didn’t want to be embarassed by the poverty and have this Royal European see its citizens. Instead the predominately white congregation at the North Campus hosted this event. Contrast or compare these demographics OF BAKER, LA. with the easy life of the Stockstills’ children(who must be that 2.4% below)

1. Only 2.4% get to college(That must be the Stockstill’s children)
2. Of that 2.4% that go to college ONLY 9% get their Bachelor Degree
3. of that 2.4% ONLY 5.8% get a graduate degree
4. The HOUSEHOLD income was only $38,500(remember the whole house income not one parent)

 

 

 

Melissa Stockstill, graduate of LSU, Royal Harpist. A very privilege many Baker, Louisiana children don't have. However, if your daddy convinces his congregation they have to make sacrifices and "give over and beyond", you can travel abroad and go to the best schools on the backs of the poor.

 

It amazes me how ministers claim to be Non-profit during tax time, yet their family members enjoy personal enrichment.  Again, hey Baker Louisiana have your kids:

 

1. Gradauted from LSU
2. Traveled to London, England
3. Traveled to Paris
4. Westminster
5. Birmingham
6. Oxford

 

Oooh, that’s right you guys have to obey Larry Stockstill and submit to his 20/20 Vision program where you’re told to do the opposite of his kids(Joel&Melissa). He tells you in 20/20 Vision to(click here for original website rules for YOU and YOUR FAMILY:

 

1. Practice priority budgeting.

Many families choose to rearrange their priorities and give up something in their current budgets in order to give more to a capital campaign. Priority budgeting may mean postponing a planned expenditure for such things as a new car, vacation, home remodeling, or other major expenditure. Many Christians giving to capital stewardship campaigns find the means to give through sacrificial commitments made in faith and coupled with priority budgeting.   (It’s interesting how he says many families choose to “give up something” while his kids travel the world and graduate from universities, shopping sprees in West Palm Beach, Music Lessons in London)

..2. Redirect present expenditures.

Often families have significant short-term expenditures for special needs that can be redirected towards the capital campaign after the short-term obligations are met. For example, a family realized that their daughters would be graduating from college during the last two years of the capital campaign, and consequently, they were able to increase their commitment by thousands of dollars in the second and third years simply by redirecting what they had been spending on their daughters’ tuition. Another example of redirecting expenditures would be committing cash flow that becomes available after a loan is repaid.   (DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT HAVE MERCY??!!  IF ANYONE BLACK CITIZEN IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ENTER COLLEGE, HE SUGGESTS YOU CONTINUE THOSE PAYMENTS TO HIS CAPITAL CAMPAIGN??!!)

..3. Increase giving with increased income.

Some people receive periodic increases in salary or bonuses from their employers. The temptation for many of us is to increase our lifestyle to fit the higher income. In many instances, families have decided that they will commit the full amount of salary increases to the capital campaign.   (DOES LARRY STOCKSTILL NOT REALIZE THESE INCREASES ARE NEEDED. IT’S NOT A “TEMPTATION” IT’S A NEED. IT’S ALSO AMAZING HOW HIS CHILDREN LIVE ROYALLY WHILE HE PLACES THESE RULES ON THE CONGREGATION)

..4. Give from your excess.

Some people have valuable possessions at their disposal. One young man decided that two of his collectors’ baseball cards worth over $20,000 would be the most appropriate means of sacrifice for his family. Other people save money over a period of years for a special project. For example, a couple had saved $80,000 to build a lake cabin. When their church entered a capital stewardship campaign, they decided the needs of the church were greater than their need for a second home.   (WOW, HE SAYS “OTHER PEOPLE SAVE MONEY”. UUUH, YEAH. IT’S CALLED RETIRMENT!! WHO ARE THESE MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE WHO GAVE UP THEIR LIVES FOR THE STOCKSTILL’S CHILDREN TO LIVE ROAYALLY??!!)

..5. Commit unexpected cash.

Often people pray for God to show them a way they can give beyond what they presently see or afford. Sometimes the answers come unexpectedly. A couple had been praying for weeks about their commitment to their church’s capital campaign. Much to their surprise, they received an inheritance of several thousand dollars. They gave the entire amount to their church as part of their three-year commitment, in addition to a commitment from their regular income.   (YOU TOOK A COUPLES INHERITANCE  IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY GIVING??!! HOW DID YOU CONVINCE THEM? MAN, YOU COULD SELL ICE TO AN ESKIMO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT AND T.V. STATION, BUT HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF SELLING USED CARS? YOU WOULD MAKE A KILLING!! I GUESS THAT’S WHY I’M NOT A TELEVANGELIST, BECAUSE MY CONSCIENCE WOULDN’T ALLOW ME TO TAKE THESE GIFTS MUCH LESS POST THESE SUGGESTIONS.  I’M SURE TEH STOCKSTILL KIDS ARE LOVING THE GIFTS, LOL)

..6. Sacrifice extra time.

Some family members have extra time they would be willing to use in a part-time job to enable them to give more to the church. This is particularly true for families whose children are grown and away from home and for semiretired or retired couples. In one situation, a man was in the process of retiring when his church entered a capital campaign. He and his wife secured new jobs and gave the first three years of their retirement income to the capital campaign.   (WOW, MOST FAMILY MEMBERS GET A SECOND JOB TO HELP OUT WITH BILLS. LARRY STOCKSTILL WANTS THAT MONEY TOO. HE EVEN WANTS THE ELDERLY WHO’S KIDS ARE GONE TO GET A PART TIME JOB AND GIVE HIM ALL THEIR INCOME, LOL, THAT’S BOLD!!)

..7. Donate appreciated assets.

Many people own stocks that are worth significantly more than the original purchase price. That is good news. The bad news is that if these stocks are sold, a significant portion of the gain will be lost to taxation. Gifts of appreciated assets typically, investment securities or real estate—can be very advantageous to both the donor and the church. By transferring ownership of the asset to the church, the donor avoids income taxes on the sale of the asset. In addition, the donor receives an income tax deduction for the full market value of the asset. That, in effect, renders the gift less costly to make.   (YES, THESE STOCKS ARE USUALLY PART OF A 401K RETIRMENT PLAN, GOODNESS LARRY, HAVE MERCY!!)

 

 

 

 If Larry Stockstill wanted to truly pay off bills, he should have practiced what he preached to the people instead of sending his Melissa through college, overseas to study, and travel Europe on motorcycles OR shopping sprees in West Palm Beach while the city is helping citizens after a major hurricane!?

Oh that’s right, it’s not their job, IT’S YOUR JOB church member!! Please…continue to give over and beyond(stocks, pay raises, heirlooms, inheritance,  college tuition).

 

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Bethany’s Holidays Vs. God’s Holy Days Thursday, Mar 12 2009

Peace And Grace To You In The Name of Christ Jesus, Our Passover Lamb 

We’ve all seen Pastor Larry Stockstill’s constant call for integrity in the House of God and their actions contradicting. The latest you’ll see is Bethany World Prayer Center’s man made Pagan Feasts celebrations instead of God’s Holy Days.  The first and most obvious is replacing God’s Holy Day with the Roman Catholic Holiday that includes Pagan Rituals.

 

 

Now, you ask most Christians about African Paganism(Voodoo, Hoodoo, Witch Craft) and they’ll without hesitation tell you it’s wrong and unbliblical. However, when it comes to European Paganism, that double standard that appeared during the Presidential election comes back.  Pastors will tell you it’s okay to mix European Paganism with Christianity,e.g., Feast of Easter.

 

The name Easter was applied by the Roman Catholic Church onto  God’s Holy Festival of Passover. It’s amazing to see Pastors correct the Roman Catholic Church and its Pope, yet they observe the Catholic’s Holy Days(Easter Mass, Sunday Mass, Mardi Gras, Lent, Christ-Mass/Christmas, Good Friday). Let’s start with the Bible and move towards today to see how the Tradition of The Elders has abolished God’s Holy Days.

 

The Prophet Daniel gave us the agenda and Characteristics of the ANTI-CHRIST/FALSE CHRIST. The one characteristic that pertains to this article is located at Dan.7:25:

1. He will speak words against the Most High
2. He will harass the Holy Ones of the Most High
3. He will try to change their Holy Festivals AND LAWS

Number-3 is what the Roman Catholic Church has done and what many churches follow,i.e., the changing of God’s set Holy Days and Laws. The first time we encountered Larry Stockstill’s authority was at your ENCOUNTER RETREAT. Remember, he isolated you from family/friends and all forms of communication with the outside? His cell leaders had everyone take on the oath to follow God’s Laws and you said amen to receive a curse if you change ANY OF THEM. Well, you wholeheartedly change the Sabbath Day to the pagan Sun’Day AND NOW Passover to the pagan feast of EASTER. Oh Bethany(House of Misery) you rightly deserve the curses. Larry Stockstill, you’re playing God and leading others astray and not back to simplicity and sincerity. THIS IS WHY CHRIST INFORMED US HE DID NOT COME TO ABOLISH HIS FATHER’S LAW AND CALLED FOR THE DEMOTION OF ANYONE WHO DID(Mt. 5:17-19).

 

The meal that Christ ate before the leaders of God’s people falsely accused him unto crucifixion was A PASSOVER MEAL.  If we are Christians(imitators of Christ) why do we not have these concerns:

 

1. Where will you have us to eat the Passover?(Mt.26:17)
2. I will keep the Passover AT YOUR HOUSE with MY DISCIPLES(Mt.26:18)
3. The DISCIPLES DID AS JESUS DIRECTED, They prepared the Passover(Mt.26:19)
4. I EARNESTLY DESIRE to eat this Passover WITH YOU(Luke 22:15)
5. DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME(LUKE 22:19; 1COR.11:24)

 

 

Instead the leaders of our time have joined themselves with man made Holidays which they have mixed with God’s Holy Days.  We have not abolished Passover but we have “changed God’s times(Dan.7:25) to Sun-Day. In the First Council of Nicea(325ad) Emperor Constantine agreed that Passover should no longer be celebrated as the disciples and Christ practiced it but that it should change to Easter. Constantine sent out a letter to “…EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN” to obey it. Below are some excerpts from THE SYNODAL LETTER located

 

We further proclaim to you the good news of the agreement
concerning the holy Easter, that this particular also has through your
prayers been rightly settled; so that all our brethren in the East who
formerly followed the custom of the Jews are henceforth to celebrate
the said most sacred feast of Easter AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE ROMANS
and yourselves and all those who have observed Easter from the
beginning.(The whole issue at the bottom of this letter preserved by Jesuit University of New York)

 

I encourage you to research the Roman Emperor Constantine’s Christianity. All scholars/historians, both christian and secular, will inform you that the Roman Emperor never truly converted to Christianity, he loved the idea of worshipping on Sun-Day because this is what he was doing before coming to Christ. HE WAS AN IDOL WORSHIPPER who set your Holy Days.

 

Paul wrote to the Corinthian Congregation about how they celebrated their Passover Feast with Sexual Sin. The Corinthian Church thought this was one big party like their former Idol Feasts were. After correcting them and instructing them to remove the LEAVEN from their lives HE INSTRUCTS THEM TO CELEBRATE PASSOVER!!

 

1Cor. 5:7-8 For Christ OUR PASSOVER LAMB has been sacrificed.  Therefore, LET US CELEBRATE THE FEASTIVAL….

 

Please read the whole context of 1Cor. 5:1-9. Paul instructs the Corinthians to first remove the leaven from their Congregation and celebrate because Our Passover Lamb has been sacrificed. These words mirror the times when Passover was celebrated by the great men of Faith. Cross reference Paul’s letter with Ex.12:21, Ex.13:7, Dt. 16:3,. This is why the Book of Revelation is filled with visions of Christ as a Lamb. Easter and rabbits have nothing to do with Christianity. Easter is leaven mixed into God’s Passover Feasts.  Christ instructs his disciples to “do this in remembrance of me(Lk.22:26). This was not the idol Easter’s Day or the Roman Sun-Day, it was God’s Passover.

 

Ask a Christian why he celebrates Easter instead of Christ’s Passover and he’ll tell you to remember Christ’s ressurection. Christ instructed to remember HIS DEATH NOT HIS RESURRECTION.  The feast of Easter messes God’s Holy Days all up! Christ and Paul state we remember Christ’s Death not ressurection. Paul told the congregation since OUR PASSOVER LAMB WAS SACRIFICED not ressurected. Paul also states(1Cor.11:25-27), “You proclaim the Lord’s Death Till he comes”.

 

Since The Romans changed God’s times and laws. This Passover meal was relabled “the Lord’s Supper” and placed on Sunday usually the first Sun-Day of every month.  Surely, if Bethany seeks to be a role model REMNANT, they’ll abandon The Roman Catholic Pagan Feasts for God’s appointed times.

 

For more research on the Passover Vs. Easter controversy with Rome:

 

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA

 

WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

BIBLICALHOLIDAYS.COM

 

SHOULD NON-JEWS CELEBRATE PASSOVER?

 

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. (Eccl. 3:1).

 

 

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Joel The Perfect Prophet or Profit? Wednesday, Mar 11 2009

Peace Be Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus,

 

Well,  it’s obvious that Joel Stockstill has regained his authority after a failed coup d’etat by supporters of President Barack Obama.  This remnant was successfully divided and conquered; they either fled Bethany(House of Poverty/Misery) or  begged for the forgiveness of the Stockstills.

 

NOW THAT JOEL has regained his power, he restored himself as head teacher and “hearing from the LORD” again. As we know from the death of Amy Stockstill, his wife,  Joel’s prophecy has a 50/50 chance of becoming true. Unfortunately, a man of God who claims to hear God’s voice and exhorts the congregation to obey him HAS TO BE 100 PERCENT CORRECT. This is not a guessing game like the con-artists who sit in front of crystal balls or those televangelists on T.B.N.

 

 Joel even “sounds the trumpet” on his website that he is a “PROPHETIC VOICE TO THIS GENERATION“. Check out the graphic in the upper right hand corner of his blog, talking about vain. These self proclaimed half-right prophets are an embarassment to the Church.

 

MANY FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND DECEIVE MANY(MT.24:11)

 

 However, he’s no different than his father who prophecies about seeing  GOD opening a temporary “WINDOW OF OPPURTUNITY FOR REPENTANCE”. for the Churches. What Larry Stockstill fails to realise it’s not the Churches of America, IT’S HIS DENOMINATION(Neo-Charismatic/Charismatic)!! Ihighly recommend you PROTECT YOUR FAMILY from these Charismatic Cults. Don’t get defensive, check out the references from these Pastors who have been sounding the alarm about the Charismatics before Larry Stockstill’s “dream”  for repentance.

• CHRISTIAN RESEARCH INSTITUTE
• JOHN MACARTHUR’S CHARISMATIC CHAOS
• DO PROPHETS EXIST TODAY?

 

FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR AND PERFROM GREAT SIGNS AND MIRACLES TO DECEIVE EVEN THE ELECT, IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE(MT.24:24)

   ORIGINAL LINK HERE TO “SIGNS AND WONDER CAMP“. As you can see “The Remnant” cry is nothing new, just like I showed with Larry’s 20/20 Vision program the Charismatic Denomination just passes on their money making scams to the next preacher. Joel is the second profile in the article.

 If the  Senior Pastor of Bethany has been wrong with it’s messages and prophecies, WHY SHOULD I NOW BELIEVE YOU ARE RECEIVING A MESSAGE FROM GOD??!!  Larry Stockstill is just like his son, A FALSE PROPHET!! He admits to the church being the problem and need for repentance but NEVER GAVE THIS GRACE TO TED HAGGARD but banished him. Yet, when Larry’s the problem he calls for everyone to gather around him and believe his prophecies/dreams. FALSE PROPHETS HAVE ARRIVED!!  It was in plain site. They waited until they got many people to become members and then proclaim themselves Prophets, LOL. Y’all slick!! And just in time for his book, The Remnant. If God is truly showing Larry Stockstill Judgment Day on America, WHY IS HE VACATIONING IN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN GREECE??!! He claims Pastors are the problem because they’re carrying on as normal, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!! Get off vacation!

 

Joel’s statement is interesting because before stating what “The Lord says” he first let’s his congregation know that he’s turning thirty(30) on March 12, 2009. He correlates his age(30) with PERFECTION and snags proof-texts out the bible. Joel from his proof-texts goes on to call this Birth Day celebration a “…VERY SPIRITUAL MILESTONE”. 

 

The problem is found in his next statement which is the basis of both his and his father’s(Larry Stockstill’s) rule for dishonest bible study EVERYTIME  they open that Holy Book,i.e., “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, WE SEE THAT….”.  This is a huge problem with the Stockstills and a major violation for any exegete. You can make the Scriptures say anything you want, “WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL….”. The verses he yanks out of context are not didactic passages on the number thirty(30) as proof  this number is associated with perfection. In fact, in the Jewish context of Christ it’s the number seven that is associated with perfection!! I’ll save that study for the bottom but first let’s look at Joel’s supposed evidence that his turning 30 is perfection and/or a very spiritual milestone.

1. (Joel)-JESUS STARTED HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY AT 30.

FALSE: Christ did not start his ministry “AT” age 30 but APPROXIMATELY/ABOUT age 30, it’s an estimate not an exact. Luke 3:23 is the closest evidence we have for guessing Christ’s age when He began his ministry. Here’s the verse:

 

23

•

JESUS,

WHEN

HE

BEGAN

HIS

MINISTRY,

WAS

ABOUT

THIRTY

YEARS

Καὶ1

Ἰησοῦς4

►5

αὐτὸς2

ἀρχόμενος5

•

•

ἦν3

ὡσεὶ6

τριάκοντα8

ἐτῶν7

Kai

Iēsous

autos

archomenos

ēn

hōsei

triakonta

etōn

C

NNSM

PPNSM

VPNSMPD

VF3SIIA

T

MGPN

NGPN

2532

2424

846

756

1510

5616

5144

2094

OF

AGE,

BEING

THE

SON

(AS

WAS

SUPPOSED)

OF

JOSEPH,

THE

SON

OF

HELI,

←

←

ὢν9

→

υἱός10

ὡς11

→

ἐνομίζετο12

→

Ἰωσὴφ13

τοῦ14

←

→

Ἠλὶ15

ōn

huios

hōs

enomizeto

Iōsēph

tou

Ēli

VPNSMPA

NNSM

T

VF3SIID|VF3SIIP

NGSM

RGSM

NGSM

1510

5207

5613

3543

2501

3588

2242

Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 3:23). Logos Research Systems, Inc.

I supplied an interlinear version to show you the greek text along with it’s English version. Please take notice TO THE DETAILS which Joel and his daddy love to leave out!! The greek word that “HOSEI” modifies “TRIAKONTA ETON(30YEARS). The original author is informing us that he is not sure of the EXACT AGE OF CHRIST but that Christ was “HOSEI(ABOUT)” 30.

The author of the Gospel of Luke uses this approximating again at LUKE 9:14-

14

For

there

were

about

five

thousand

men.

And

he

said

to

his

γὰρ2

→

ἦσαν1

ὡσεὶ3

→

πεντακισχίλιοι5

ἄνδρες4

δὲ7

→

εἶπεν6

πρὸς8

αὐτοῦ11

gar

ēsan

hōsei

pentakischilioi

andres

de

eipen

pros

autou

T

VF3PIIA

T

MNPM

NNPM

C

VF3S2IA

EA

PPGSM

1063

1510

5616

4000

435

1161

3004

4314

846

disciples,

“Have

them

sit

down

in

groups

of

about

‹τοὺς9 μαθητὰς10›

►12

αὐτοὺς13

κατακλίνατε12

←

→

κλισίας14

►17

ὡσεὶ15

tous mathētas

autous

kataklinate

klisias

hōsei

RAPM, NAPM

PPAPM

VF2PAVA

NAPF

T

3588, 3101

846

2625

2828

5616

fifty		each.”
πεντήκοντα17		ἀνὰ16
pentēkonta		ana
MAPN		EA|D
4004		303

Schwandt, J., & Collins, C. J. (2006; 2006). The ESV English-Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament (Lk 9:14). Logos Research Systems, Inc.

 

 

The original gospel’s author is approximating again. The author is not saying he was present during this feeding!! In fact we are not sure who the author of this Gospel is. The name Luke was placed on this gospel because a second century document called the MURATORIAN CANON did so. FURTHERMORE, the author approximates because he is NOT AN EYEWITNESS but rather went and “investigated(LUKE 1:3)” everything so that a person by the name of THEOPHILUS would know about what the actual EYEWITNESSES passed on to him. As a result, Luke gives numbers and dates as “about” and not exactly.

So for Joel we see how cults have successfully con the naive out of money (as Larry Stockstill did with 2Sam.24:24 calling it a Capital Campaign) and how THEY CLAIM TO BE PERFECT (though have a history of failed prophecies like Amy’s death). It’s because they leave out the details while inserting their LIES!!! Like Hank Hangergraaf at the Christian Research Institute says about Televangelists, “They use the skin of truth and stuff it full of lies!!”. See his articles at WWW.EQUIP.ORG

This is not a teaching passage on the number thrity. Joel you are abusing the Holy Scriptures to exhalt your minsitry to “perfection”. Luke is not intending to show the number 30 to be an exact number of perfection. This is merely a NARRATIVE that informs the reader “…WAS ABOUT THIRTY”. The context and the author betrays your suggestion about the number thirty.

As far as your equating David’s age at the time he became King of Judah, nothing in the immediate context suggests that perfection was involved. In fact, David was chosen and annointed at a much younger age, He slew Goliath at a younger age, so……?? In the mind of a Hebrew(which Christ came as and King David is) the number SEVEN is associated with perfection NOT THIRTY. As Easton’s Bible Dictionary  THAT THE  APPEARANCES OF THE NUMBER SEVEN  “…sufficiently prove the importance of this sacred number”.

If I used the eisegesis of The Stockstill’s, that would mean that since Christ was betrayed with 30 pieces of silver, it proves that Joel will further betray his congregation when he turns 30. That would be ridiculous just as Joel’s 30 of perfection is dubious.

OR

Again, using Joel’s rules for bible study one would be allowed at teaching since Ezekiel(1:1) was exiled in the 30th. year it means that Joel’s congregation will finally exile him to Babylon.  If the age of 30 was that significant Joel shouldn’t have been a minister until age 30!!  According to his preaching about age 30, this means he’s been out of the will of God, jumping into ministry to early.

As the economy gets worse and the church becoming a laughing stock due to it’s leaders receiving gifts, watch how the leaders of 220 lavish their Prophet for his birthday. Which member of the congregation was ever granted such gifts as this?

1. Official Kobe Bryant Jersey
2. Courtside Tickets to Lakers vs. Spurs Game
3. Roundtrip Plane Tickets to San Antonio
4. The same for “Jonathan and Jared”
5. A Brand New Fully Loaded Honda Four-Wheeler
6. VIDEO OF BDAY BASH!!

    Wow, I remember driving through Baker, La. lastweek and was saddened at the poverty these Christians are forced to live in while their perfected prophet at 30 gets the royal treatment after abandoning them during Gustav for West Palm Beach!!!  Also, it’s amazing how absolutely Bethany didn’t honor any Civil Rights Leader during Black History Month but these folks lavished their deity(Joel) with gifts.

  

JOEL, ADONAI WILL TAKE HIS REVENGE ON YOU AND YOUR LEADERS!! YOU NEED TO WAKE UP!! YOUR LEADERS ARE WRONG FOR TAKING MONEY FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS FOR YOUR PERSONAL ENRICHMENT!! YOU LEADERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR COERCING THESE KIDS!!

It shouldn’t suprise us, we see how Jordan Jopling lies for him. In my other article, Jordan Jopling, Liar, Liar, I showed how he clearly fabricated the reason for Joel having to vacation in West Palm Beach while everyone else was struggling during Gustav. Now Jordan Jopling takes the offensive instead of  reacting to possible negative comments. He has clearly learned from the past incidents at Bethany. Jordan rationalizes the material gifts that Joel received with the weak cause….

 

(What follows must be read with the understanding that Pastor Joel is a huge basketball, NBA, and Lakers fan:-).)

 

So I guess all of these “GIFTS”(as Prosperity Televangelists call them) are okay. Thanks Jordan, it was also good to see you standing there in agreement.  I can’t believe y’all actually put this on the W.W.W. much less video. I’m so glad GOD woke me up. This is exactly what went on. 

If you listened carefully, the M.C. introducing Joel’s perfect prophet at 30 B-Day Bash, informs the teens at the 36second mark THAT THEIR monies was redirect to Joel’s B-Day Bash. That’s actually a crime. Donations such as offerings & tithes are not to be used for personal enrichment. After hyping up the crowd the M.C. holding the microphone informs the teens:

 

“(starting at 36 second mark) WHAT YOU GUYS DON’T KNOW is that …

1. Pastor Joel’s Birthday is next Thursday, March 12
2. He turns 30 years old
3. And he’s gonna watch the Lakers play in his jersey
4. YOU BOUGHT HIM

 

Okay did anybody catch that last phrase about what they “DON’T KNOW”??!! Again, “YOU BOUGHT…”. LOL, boy they are slick. They pump the crowd up and slide in the purchase they didn’t know they spent their money on.

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A “black” Man or Oreo, Tim S.? Thursday, Mar 5 2009

Peace Be Upon You In The Name Of Christ Jesus The Passover Lamb (not the Stockstill’s idol the EASTER BUNNY/EGG HUNTS),

 

I, Ovadyah, determined this respondent deserved his own post also. There are many Blacks who have made the exodus from out of The House Of Poverty(Bethany), yet there is a remnant who remains(eventhough Tim.S is really in Los Angeles,Ca. not La.). They remain despite the supporting evidence that GOD gives them that they SHOULD LEAVE!! I will present Tim S.’s post in bold text and respond accordingly.

 

<strong> You obviously do not know the Stockstills personally. I am a BLACK man and the Stockstill’s church itself represents a standard and example for racial integration world wide. Get the facts. The Bible says that, “Man sees the outward appearance, but God sees the heart.” Let’s try to be a little more Godlike. </strong>

 

Oreos-Black Skin Double Stuffed With White

 

     Dear Tim S., I never claim to have known them personally. Thanks for clarifying that and I would like to support that fact. This website is not a personal attack on the Stockstills but an expose’ on their doctrine. You will not find me attacking them personally(i.e., making claims without evidence) because that’s not the intention. This is what the defenders of The Stockstill’s do when they respond to my posts. They attack me as a “Liar, word twister, bitter, etc.” without supporting evidence. If we don’t give supporting evidence to our statement they become “defamation of character” or “opinions”. This usually happens when people respond emotionally instead of logically. I’m attacking their bias with evidence that their subjects have yet to refute.

 

So, what particular statement is false?

 

Furthermore, I don’t have to know them personally to clearly see the double standard they present to Our now President Back Obama(as noted in my blog).  Joel constantly hailed Sarah Palin as a “Phenomenon(PART ONE, PART TWO )” while hurling insults at our now President. Why didn’t he mention the short comings of the Palin family or even the McCain Campaign? Isn’t the possible election of a black man as President of the United States more of a “Phenomenon” than a dizzy Govenor from Alaska??!!

 

HE DOESN’T KNOW SARAH PALIN OR PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA YET HE DOG’S ONE WHILE PRAISES THE OTHER!!! Yet, here you come defending Joel??!! I’ve said it before and I’ll say again. This is that clear doulbe standard!! You deify the Stockstills. Why didn’t you rebuke Joel when he “dogged out” President Obama with the same way you rebuked me??!! with….

 

“JOEL YOU CLEARLY DON’T KNOW OBAMA PERSONALLY….”

 

Why didn’t you rebuke The Stockstills Mr. “Black Man”??!! Why the double standard??!! One for your white leader and one for your black people. You clearly have been taught well by your Masters, good boy. You really disappoint me. How could you? People who present this double standard like you are known in the black community as “OREOS”. You’re black on the outside and WHITE ON THE INSIDE. It shouldn’t suprise us, in this day and age we even have blacks who are official members of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

If You Ignore The Warning Signs, You're Discernment Will Embarrass You Before The World

 

Instead of rebuking Joel, you attack the black folks who expose him; SAD, truly SAD!!  First, practice what you preach. Next, uphold justice and maintain ONE STANDARD FOR ALL NOT TWO  like Joel has taught you. I have yet to see anyone who defend the Stockstills practice what they preach to me. Yet, I know why….it’s because they don’t even believe in it. It’s just that they’ve been taught there are two standards, one for whites and another for blacks(mexicans, any non-white)!!

You paraphrased from the bible “Man sees the outward appearance, but God sees the heart”.

 

Again, why didn’t you rebuke Joel & Larry Stockstill with these verses??!! Why do you continue with the double standard??!! Why didn’t you rebuke them??!! LOL, you really have sold out haven’t you? You remind of the new G.O.P. Chairman Steele who was obviously pushed into that position. Chairman Steele(who is black) rebuked Rush Limbaugh(who is white) for shouting at the applause of other hateful whites at how he wants “Obama to fail”. Why did this black man do that??!! Rush Limbaugh shouted black at Chairman Steele with pure disrepect for defending Obama and what does Chairman Steel do? He apologizes to Rush Limbaugh, LOL and withdraws his defense for his brother Obama!! So you’re not the only puppet out there. Practice apologizing here so they can be proud of you. Oh that’s right Joel stated on his blog he’s not SEEKING APOLOGIES, LOL. Leave him alone, I’m sure he’s “hearing from GOD” again.

I’ve also notice when the whites wanted to rebuke Obama they sent another minority puppet to do it for them,i.e., Gov. Bobby Jindall, Chairman Steele, etc.. Goodness..y’all funny. I’ve notice also that Jonathan has FINALLY ADDED a black face to his advertising of his “Deluge Band”. Will minorities fall for it? Time will tell….

Furthermore, I’m not judging the outside of Larry Stockstill. I could care less how pale he is. You will not find a baseless attack on whites simply because their white. You will not find a double standard for whites and one for blacks. I’ve quoted and referenced THEIR DOCTRINE AND POLITICAL BLOGS. It’s a shame to see them using church funds to endorse Sarah Palin/John McCain’s campaign. Palin Phenomenon, LOL. I agree if this site were attacking Larry’s whiteness instead of his doctrine ONLY THEN WOULD YOUR PARAPHRASE MAKE SENSE.

You know whites have always put blacks like you in charge. In THE MOVIE “ROOTS” this REAL LIFE SLAVE was played by Louis Gossip Jr.(Fiddler, a mythical character) in the movie “ROOTS”. There was one set of rules for whites and another set of rules for black AND ANYTIME THE NEGRO STEPPED OUT OF LINE….there was FIDDLER & UNCLE TOM correcting them, while praising their superiors. Way too go, “brother”.

Peace To You Double Standard Tim.S.,

Ovadyah

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Trouble Making Negro!! Tuesday, Feb 17 2009

Peace And Grace Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus,

 

I’ve noticed a common trait among those who defend the cult of Bethany World Prayer Center and the Stockstills. These folks constantly lable those who disagree with them as a  “TROUBLE MAKER” or “AGITATOR”. These insults could be halfway decent if they provided some supporting evidence to those statements. However, they don’t because they can’t. It’s easier just to hurl these stones at anyone who disagrees with their god, Larry Stockstill and his angel Joel Stockstill. Despite Bethany’s silence, the McCain/Palin campaign catered to racists. They had no problem with exposing those who sided with President Barack but remained silent with those who sided with McCain/Palin. This is why McCain/Palin remained in small country towns and called them the “Real America”. If you watched any of the interviews that occurred during McCain/Palin’s conventions you’ll hear the same thing over and over, “I’m concerned the niggers will take over”; “They’re not Christian”.

 

Now even the most respected Newspaper has exposed their racist views!!! The N.Y. Post, famous for their political cartoons, published this one:

 

During Black History Month, the cable channel TVone has played several good movies on the Black Churhces’ role during the Civil Rights movement when the White Churches remained silent(as they did during the Jewish Holocaust). It seems not much has changed since then. I viewed several movies that were true stories that took place in the South(Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia). 

The Black Churches that chose to expose the racist South, expose Racist Churches, racist businesses or chose to  participate in protests, participate in voter registration, or participate in getting a black leader in goverment were called “Troublemakers, Communists, Agitators, Divisive”. Ever since I’ve revealed the scams and racial bias from the Stockstill’s guess what Ovadyah has been labled as? Yep, “Troublemaker, Agitator, Divisive”.  Not much has changed!

Furthermore, there were those blacks in the South who despite having all the evidence of wrongdoing, prejudice, and racism refused to join their brothers and sisters in the struggle. The whites back then would label these as “good negroes” or “good boys” or “good Christian”. Again, not much has changed.

Unlike the research and supporting evidence from Ovadyah, the defenders of The Stockstills do just as their forefathers; they hurl insults and adjectives without supporting evidence, NONE!! Read their comments! They simply give opinions or insults.

 

Futhermore,  watch how Bethany is now trying to prevent their biggest bank rolls from leaving(naive black folks). The ad below has not one black face on it, however….

 

 

It’s obvious Bethany is in Damage Control mode.  You now see blacks being pushed into leadership/pastoral roles, LOL and look at the videos(What’s Love Got To Do With It), THEY ARE ACTUALLY FALLING FOR IT!!  Too bad for them, they made this advertisement before fully realizing the Black Exodus back to their historic congregations.

 

Eventhough Bethany has deceptively pushed these black folks into these positions, THEY REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE BLACK HISTORY MONTH! You couldn’t even tell there was such a thing.  Again, Check out the latest 220POWER advertisement(posted Jan.29, 2009) above, NOT A SINGLE BLACK FACE ON IT!!  Now, check out who is preaching at the latest 220POWER. What’s even more obvious is how the congregants are grouped. The Blacks are all huddled in unity, like these kids were forced by their parents to attend!

The Stockstills obviously have mental ownership on those poor blacks that fill their pews. No matter what the evidence, they stay! They admit they have many concerns but WON’T LEAVE! That’s a cult! To make things worse, check out Joel’s latest blog. HE BLAMES THE BLACK FOR CALLING HIM A RACIST and boldy states, “I am not looking for apologies personally but desiring for us to learn from our mistakes and not allow this type of thing to tear us apart in the future.”. WHaaaat??!! and Y’all staying, LOL. He’s the one who started this whole mess. He’s the one who quickly deleted the questionable blog. Don’t be deceived by the cleaned up version Bethany now circulates. Again, Joel you’re the one who started this whole mess by your verbal lashings on Pres. Obama’s back while praising the McCain/Palin campaign. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH HOMEBOY!!

He clearly points out the sins of others but never acknowledges his and the other leaders who coerced the congregation. Yes, I agree, Obama isn’t perfect BUT LOOK AT BUSH WHO MCCAIN SAID HE WOULD CONTINUE! You expose how Obama allows abortion when the mother’s life is in danger BUT SAY NOTHING ABOUT

1. HOW MANY ADULTS THE BUSHES KILLED IN THEIR WARS FOR OIL!!
2. SARAH PALIN’S DAUGHTER HAVING SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE
3. SARAH PALIN’S DAUGHTER MAY NOT EVEN GET MARRIED TO HER BABY’S DADDY
4. SARAH PALIN LYING ABOUT READING POLITICAL MAGAZINES AND COULDN’T NAME ONE
5. HOW CAN THE PALINS PREACH AND DON’T PRACTICE!!
6. HOW SARAH PALIN SPENT $150,000 IN DONATIONS ON A SHOPPING SPREE
7. HOW BUSH HAS BANKRUPT AMERICA!!
8. HOW TERRORISTS ATTACKED (911) AMERICA DURING BUSH’S WATCH
9. THE NON-CHRISTIANS AND RACISTS WHO SUPPORTED MCCAIN/PALIN
10. HOW PALIN SUPPORTERS CALLED BARACK A “NIGGER” AND PALIN SPIRIT FILLED(CLICK HERE)
11. SO-CALLED GODLY BRISTOL PALIN SAYS “ABSTINENCE IS NOT REALISTIC” IN INTERVIEW (CLICK HERE)
12. HOW MAJOR HURRICANES (KATRINA, RITA,GUSTAV) RIPPED THE SOUTH WHO VOTED FOR THE BUSHES!!

This double standard is what makes you a racist!! You ignore the whites’ sins(Palin) and magnify President Obama’s. Joel and Larry Stockstill you ARE HYPOCRITES AND RACISTS!!  You’re  just like the racists on Fox News, who you constantly quote. It’s okay for one group to sin but not the other??!! My heart truly weeps to see how you rebuke the blacks who NOTICED YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD and even had the audacity to say, “I’m not looking for apologies”. I agree, you should be GIVING OUT apologies. You didn’t give a one, you put it all on your congregation. Oh, my people wake up!! Wake Up!! Stop letting this child tell you that you were wrong when YOU WERE RIGHT! He’s only as powerful as you let him be. Oh yeah, it was real convient for you Joel to be out of town after deleting that infamous blog. I’m sure we have to give Dad that credit.

Nobody is defending Pres. Obama simply because of the color of his skin. We’re defending him because, like us, we’re held to a double standard! You are the one that needs to apologise for your actions. You are the one that failed, STOP BLAMING YOUR CONGREGATION YOU HYPOCRITE!!

Only now you call the election “Temporal and Earthly” before you stated prophets were proclaiming:

 

“Despite your conviction on politics and the presidential race there has been a true phenomenon that has happened since the appearance of VP nominee Gov. Sarah Palin. This bright and beautiful new face has electrified the nation and brought a whole new spin on everything. I believe it was in January that Kim Clement prophesied that a vice presidential candidate would come into the picture and shake up the whole race. Boy, did that word ever come true!

Gov. Palin is a spirit-filled believer who was strongly involved in her home church (from the city she is from Wasilla). She then became a part of a great church in Juneau as she moved there to be governor. This church uses methods of discipleship very similar to what we do here at Bethany”. (PALIN PHENOMENON, SAT.OCT.04,2008)  

 

You used the adjectives “true phenomenon, electrified, spirit-filled”. But since your prophecy or I should say hopes have failed, you now modify the election with “TEMPORAL AND EARTHLY”. Boy you’re too much and tell the poor black folks, “I don’t expect an apology”. You remind me of my childhood when the boastful would appear on the basketball court and shout “Oh yeah we’re gonna beat y’all so bad, we gonna win!!” and yet when these boastful pretenders LOSE THEY RENIG LIKE YOU with “Hey, it’s only game….why y’all making a big deal about us losing, let’s put that type of boasting away, y’all need to be a little more mature”. Now it’s Temporal and Earthly, I know why it’s because you’re the loser. Now the election wasn’t and isn’t a big deal to you. BUT IT IS, AMERICA HAS IT’S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT….HELLLLLO??!! Futhermore, YOU’RE THE ONE WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS!!  Stop blaming those poor black folks under your authority. How you never admit to have done anything wrong during this campaign is incredibly bold and to see how much ownership you have over those black kids is astonishing.

 

I feel so sorry for them. WAAAAAKE UUUUUUUP!!

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PAT ROBERTSON CRITICIZES BUSH AND PRAISES OBAMA Wednesday, Dec 24 2008

 

QUICK QUOTE:

 

CNN) – Pat Robertson is “remarkably pleased” with President-elect Barack Obama, the conservative leader told CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux – and believes President Bush’s administration has not dealt with the nation’s economic crisis in a “professional manner.”

Click here for the rest of the story.

 

I guess you overseers at Bethany are really shocked. So now we have Rick Warren and Pat Robertson, two conservative Christians, who are pleased with Barack in comparison to ex-Pres’ Bush.

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Bethany’s Encounter Pt.2-Slain In The Spirit Tuesday, Dec 23 2008

Peace And Grace Upon You, I Pray That The Deceivers Have Not Seduced You From Your Local Churches and Now Have You In Their Grasp. I Pray For Your Safety And Discernment During Bethany’s “Encounters” And That Your Family Won’t Fall Prey To Their Cultic Isolations and Practices!

 

 

 

     Hank Hanergraaf of the Christian Research Institute has been sounding the alarm about this dangerous and unbiblical ritual when it appeared in the Pensacola/Brownsville Revival. As we have seen from Charisma Magazine, these cult leaders are a band of traveling con-artist. It’s sad to see Bethany has not only welcomed these men (Steve Hill, David Yonggi Cho,etc.) but have adopted their “weird practices” which Larry Stockstill claimed on his blog to abandon. This occultic ritual was popularized by Prosperity Televangelist Benny Hinn. Click here for one of many episodes.

 

     I highly recommend Hank Hanergraaf’s book, Counterfeit Revival, which has conducted extensive research about this travelling cult and it’s coercion tactics which are not only unbiblical but very dangerous!! PROTECT YOUR FAMILY!!! Here is a sample from Chapter-19’s “SEVEN SCRIPTURAL PRETEXTS”

 

“Ex-Domincan priest Father Francis MacNutt not only creates credibility for the slain in the spirit phenomennon by pointing to QUAKERS and SHAKERS in past revivals, but he also points to movers and shakers in the present revival. In Overcome By The Spirit, he writes, ‘in Protestant revivals, as we have seen, many people trembled and shook. So, too, in our day, the shaking phenomenon occurs in John Wimber’s conferences’. MacNutt points out that at one time Wimber was a Quaker pastor and presumes that the “shaking phenmenon is part of John’s spiritual heritage”.

Wimber himself, HOWEVER, focuses on Scripture rather than on his spiritual heritage as a Quaker. In 1981 Wimber(the founder of the International Association of Vineyard Churches) preached a series of sermons titled “Spiritual Phenomena:SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT”.

In this series Wimber points out that “the model as we’ve seen it ministered out in the land” IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE: ‘There’s no place in the Bible where people were lined up and Jesus or Paul or anyone else went along and bapped them on the head and watched them go down, one after another, and somebody else ran along behind. Can you picture Peter and James-‘Hold it, Hold it, hold it!”- running along behind trying to catch them? And so the model that we’re seeing, either on stage or television, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING THAT’S IN SCRIPTURE(john wimber, “spiritual phenomena: slain in the spirit-part 1, Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Anaheim, Ca, 1981, audiotape).

 

 

     Remember how earlier we talked about how important it is to remain in context and proved successfully how Larry Stockstill practiced Eisegesis to get over-and-above donations from the naive(2Sam.24:24). Well, this former Quaker, John Wimber, practices the same flawed Hermeneutics. One of the Scriptures that John Wimber uses to have his disciples practice the occultic “Slain In The Spirit”  is Gen.2:21.

 

²¹ So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh.

 

On the same audiotaped sermon(Wimber,Spiritual Phenomena: Slain in the Spirit-Part 1) Wimber insists that translators, who’ve never been “slain in the spirit” are incorrect for translating the hebrew word “YASHEN” in Gen.2:21 as “sleep” because it means to become slack.  Brothers and sisters this is the same type of eisegesis conducted by Connie Williams on Joel’s website about the etymology for Sarah Palin!

Two things should be noted;

1. The hebrew YASHEN  is not in Gen.2:21
2. YASHEN still means sleep not “slack” or “to become slack”

 

John Wimber’s deception for this occultic practice is based on lies!  Again, this is the same practice of Bethany. They don’t care what the context of the Chapter is as long as they verse has the right words to appear to support their practices. John Wimber at first told the truth and stated this ritual is not found in Scripture but when it’s popularity caught on, he isolated verses from their context to prove it is biblical. Since Christians didn’t test the ex-Quaker’s prooftext, he continued isolating verses to support his ritual of being “slain in the spirit”. The next six are:

1. Abram FELL  on his face and God talked to him(Gen.17:3)

 

As Hank documents on Pg.186(Chapter-19, Slain In The Spirit, Seven Scriptural Pretexts) of how Wimber claims the original hebrew in Gen.17:3 for FELL is actually RADAM but it was actually NAPHAL and knowing a good interpreter sticks with the context, Hank elucidates “Furthermore, the Almighty did not cause Abraham to fall through a blow that stupefied and knocked him senseless, rather Abraham fell of his own accord in response to the Majesty of the Almighty. FINALLY, AS HE DID WITH ADAM, WIMBER INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE IN LIGHT EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN INTERPRETING EXPERIENCE IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE”. It should also be noted brothers and sisters that the ENEMIES of God fall backwards as opposed to falling forward like the friends of God do in the Holy Bible.  

Since you can see the abuse of context I’ll simply list the other pre-texts and let you continue studying on your own.

 

2.Acts 10:9-10

3.Acts 9:3-4

4.Rev.1:17

5.John 18:6

 

Remember context is very important to honest interpretation. Isolating sentences from the chapters can be made to say ANYTHING and back up ANY RITUAL.  I’ll leave you with a quote from the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements(Pg. 790-791):

 

“An entire battalion of Scripture proof texts is enlisted to support the legitacy of the phenomenon, ALTHOUGH SCRIPTURE OFFERS NO SUPPORT for the phenomenon AS SOMETHING TO BE EXPECTED IN THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE….From an experiential standpoint it is unquestionable that through the centuries Christians have experienced a psycho-physical phenomenon in which people fall down; morever, they have attributed the experience to God. It is equally questionable that there is NO BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE EXPERIENCE as normative in Christian life. ”

    

      Again, I sincerely pray for your safety. I sincerely ask You Father that these who seek your presence will realize the counterfeits they’ve been exposed to. I also pray ADONAI that Larry Stockstill will truthfully “come back to” sincerity and turn away from these occultic practices, Amen!

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Jordan Jopling of Bethany, LIAR, LIAR!! Monday, Dec 22 2008

     Jordan Jopling , who works with Joel Stockstill’s 220U, has recently felt the need to respond personally to me,Ovadyah, to defend Gov. Sarah Palin and Joel Stockstill. I’ll place his entire response unedited and respond below it. As many of us have already seen, it’s done more damage than damage control. Oh, when will they learn!!  Jordan Jopling thinks we’re all ignorant not realizing that the modern day racist speak in “code words” and WAS RECENTLY UPHELD IN A COURT OF LAW AS ADMISSABLE EVIDENCE.

 

 

Ovadyah,

You are seriously mixing up facts.

1) Joel Stockstill never has been and is not a racist. Those that accuse him of this only expose themselves as not knowing him or his family AT ALL.

2) Sarah Palin is outspoken about her Christian faith (as is Obama). The reason that the Church in America is behind her is that her history confirms this. Unlike Barak Obama, she does attend a Spirit-filled church  and the people she is associated with in Alaska back up her Christian lifestyle.

3) The accusations about Palin’s knowledge of Africa came out AFTER the election, Fox News said they wished they would have known, and Palin denied the accusations. All of this is on the video you link to, so please watch closely.

4) The Kim Clement prophecy you and Pastor Joel refers to does in fact claim that a vice presidential CANDIDATE…would shake things up. Did that not happen with Palin. Seems like the prophecy was fulfilled. Again, your own link supports this.

…would shake things up. Did that not happen with Palin. Seems like the prophecy was fulfilled. Again, your own link supports this.

5) Last, but most importantly: Pastor Joel went to West Palm Beach during the hurricane because he has kidney failure and must be on dialysis 3 times a week. Baton Rouge was without power for a week in most areas. He has a friend that lives there and stayed with them.

Please look at things objectively. When you interpret things based on a conclusion that you want, you will never see truth. You’re hurting yourself and everyone you lie to about these things.

 

 

Peace And Grace To You Jordan Jopling,

                                                           Upon reading your entire e-mail I was reminded of how Sen.John McCain(R) had to constantly remove Gov.Sarah Palin’s foot from her mouth when she attempted to conduct interviews without supervision.  She attempted to be a big girl and turned into a big embarassment for women across America and Sen.John’s campaign. As a result, John McCain felt the need to start sitting-in these interviews and interjecting before Sarah could further embarrass the Republican Campaign and cause Republicans to start jumping-ship and making an exodus towards PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA.

 

     In other words, You’re Joel Stockstill’s John McCain and Joel is of course your Sarah Palin, constantly putting his foot in his mouth and embarrassing his father’s Campaigns. Bethany now sees an exodous of their biggest financial supporters(African-americans) returning to their own churches from which Bethany seduced them from. I will respond to your claims in the same order as you numbered them. But first realize, that we’re not ignorant we know the racist CODE WORDS.  Even the courts of law recognize that the new racist speak in code.  Haven’t you seen the code that the N.Y. Time spoke in when they were clearly calling President Obama a monkey in their cartoon!?

 

I GUESS THIS IS NOT RACIST EITHER HUH JORDAN?

 

1.)You claim that Joel Stockstill is not a racist yet he never extended the same courtesy and praise to PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Obama which he blindly gave to Sarah Palin. Joel Stockstill emulates the new racist. They provide one standard for whites and another standard for African-Americans. Joel NEVER gave us any negative concerns about Sarah Palin; Joel never exposed Sarah Palin’s questionable company but never had a problem with whipping the backs of the black folks(Jesse Jackson, Oprah Winfrey) with his berating tongue who supported PRESIDENT-ELECT Barack Obama.Why not do the same with the questionable folks who supported Palin and McCain?! This is the same characteristics of the new racists,i.e., a double standard for blacks.  We fell for those tactics with Bush and Govenor Foster but NO MORE, AMEN!!  Bush is the biggest joke to ever land in the White House. If Joel’s not a racist he’s definitely adopted and simulated their behavior during THIS presidential campaign. Walk like a duck, talk like a duck, he’s a duck. Oh yeah, I’ve noticed all of the rewriting Joel has been doing to his blog entries. Will this fool the black majority? Probally, sad but probally. I know of many who deify the Stockstills.

Remember when Tiger Woods entered golf and the racist comment made by his colleage. The other whites came to his defense and stated the same thing your’re saying, “You just have to know him, he’s not a racist”. It seems everytime a white gets caught in such a bind their “brothers” come with the exact same defense, “You’ve got to to know him”. We minorities know that double standard!! We know the code words!! We know the berating words!! We know when LSU hangs that REBEL FLAG, they’re racist!! Depsite folks stating, “You just don’t understand us” or “it shows you just don’t know us”, we are just expressing southern pride. These are the signs/symptoms you ignore. I don’t blame you for your ignorance. Everyday minorities encounter certain phrases and quips by whites that set off alarms in their heads. It’s not until they get home from work that they call their fellow and state, “You won’t believe what so-and-so said today” and when it gets out…here comes that white guy with, “You just have to understand so-and-so he’s just old-school or you just gotta know him”. It makes us sick!!

 

Another example is his dad’s, Larry Stockstill’s blog entry about “THIS PRESIDENT “is another sign/symptom. Larry calls President Obama, “THIS PRESIDENT….”  AND NOT  “Our President” but a demeaning “THIS PRESIDENT“.We know YOU and we know JOEL. “THIS PRESIDENT”??!! At Southern University and black churches that statement says a lot and is similar to the other racist in Louisiana. Larry has claims in his blog maybe racial strife is coming to an end??!! Obviously not Bethany! He claims many whites voted for President Barack and claims to have rejoiced over this as proof that racism is coming to an end. WOW…Now he wants to praise President Barack, LOL! It was clear during the campaigns who He was voting for and it’s clear from his description of PRESIDENT BARACK as “THIS PRESIDENT” and not “OUR PRESIDENT” that shows his concealed prejudice, it just kills Larry Stockstill to say, “OUR PRESIDENT”.

There have been many half-truths about whites voting for Pres. Barack. Yes, many voted for this black man, however, THE MAJORITY DID NOT!! Despite the record breaking number of Black registrered voters, the white vote won Louisiana for McCain and Palin. What side was Joel on? The majority of black folks in his church or did he stick with his skin clan? It’s amazing how this white kid is leading our black elders.

 

• How did they get so seduced from their churches??!!
• How did our black leaders give up their STRUGGLE for freedom from white authority and later submit to white authority(Stockstills)??!!
• How did Bethany trick our elders not to support President Barack??!!
• How did our small family churches become empty and the Stockstills’ fill up?
• How did our people abandon their historical civil rights churches for the Stockstill’s authority??!!
• How did we stop supporting historic churches for new-age occultic experiences??!!
• How did we become embarassed of our roots??!!

 

 

       It’s important to examine what Larry says about the racial divide. He made the claim that whites voting for Barack is proof that racial tension is healing. So would it not be logical that those who didn’t vote for Barack prove just the opposite? So with that in mind….

 

It’s clear the whites at Bethany who didn’t give President Barack their vote are not part of Larry Stockstill’s proof that whites voting for Pres. Barack shows racial healing. I would agree with Larry Stockstill that whites voting for a black President shows that some are healing that racial divide and are fulfilling Martin Luther’s dream that they didn’t see the color of his skin. It also brought out what was hidden under Bethany’s skin. Yes, Larry Stockstill is attempting to praise Pres. Barack ,NOW, BUT DID EVERYTHING IN HIS STRENGTH DURING THE ELECTION(with Joel’s support) TO ENSURE BARACK WOULD NOT BECOME OUR PRESIDENT. But now that his man lost and Joel’s black congregation is disgruntled about their comments, the Stockstill’s are attempting to seduce them back under THEIR authority and keep their fore-fathers churches empty.

 

     Furthermore, to elucidate how the WHITES OF LOUISIANA voted I guide you to the research by New Orleans Newspaper, The Times Picayune.  Even without their research it was clear that LOUISIANA WHITES WERE NOT GOING TO SUBMIT TO A BLACK PRESIDENT, yet blacks elders submit to a white kid(Joel Stockstill).  The article is archived at nola.com click here to access it, it also contains a visual map of the breakdown. Again, which side was Joel on. Here is a concise quote of their research:

 

 

“However, while Obama was improving on Kerry’s performance in most states — including such critical battlegrounds as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and North Carolina — he did worse than Kerry among white voters in a handful of states — ESPECIALLY Alabama, Mississippi and LOUISIANA.”

 

AND THEN THEY SADLY CONCLUDED

 

“They[LOUISIANA, ALAMBAMA,MISSISSIPPI] are moving contrary to the rest of the country,” said Bositis, who said Obama’s race — and the historic pattern of racially polarized voting in these states — seemed the most obvious reason.”

 

 

2.)Gov.Sarah Palin wasn’t outspoken about her Christian faith, she constantly referred to herself as a “MAVERICK”, I rarely heard Jesus or Scriputre or Praying and turned her campaigns to small white towns as the “real americans”. Furthermore the “Church of America” was not behind Sarah Palin, it was the WHITE CHURCH that was behind Sarah Palin,. 

 

     There goes that double standard again, you stated unlike Barack Obama’s Church Sarah Palin’s is “Spirit-Filled”. If a church doesn’t have the Holy Spirit then it’s logical to conclude it isn’t Christian; You can’t be saved unless you’re Spirit-Filled. What a judgement you’ve made against our President!! I’ve seen the hostile whites at McCain’s campaigns, even Sen. John. McCain had to ease white voters because they scaring off a lot of minority voters. Yet, nobody at Bethany’s blogs pointed out those white-pride Christians! Nobody at Bethany rebuked Palin for her shopping spree of $150,000.00 during a terrible economy. That didn’t show good stewardship. Why the double standard??!!

We know that our church leaders prayed over President Barack.  So I guess these blacks elders fall under your double standard of not being “Spirit-Filled”. It’s a beautiful picture of blacks not falling prey to white intimidation. I feel sorry for the blacks in Bethany’s 220SU. Brothers and Sisters view the pic’ in the link below, my family actually placed this above our fireplace encased with the American Flag. I know JORDAN JOPLING  how you feel about the black church. You clearly stated it above(#2) “Unlike Barak Obama, she does attend a Spirit-filled church”.

 

SPIRIT FILLED ELDERS PRAYING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA

 

3.)O.K. there’s not much too say about Number-3….OF COURSE Gov. Palin is going to deny it. She also claim that she read many magazines on the economy and couldn’t name one. She responded to Katie Kouric with “Oooh I read the ones put before me“, “Oooh I read lot’s of em”, LOL!! Again, not much to say about her truthfulness. That was hillarious. What a Spirit-filled woman! She was spirit-filled(not Holy Spirit) and spoke with lying tongues.

 

 

4.)Sarah Palin didn’t shake things up!! Not unless you mean she shook things up so hard their campaign deteriorated and caused Republicans to vote for Pres. Barack(Gen.C.Powell and Armstrong Williams)Yeah in that case she shook things up allright! Plus, anyone can make vague prophecies like that and they do, it’s big business cause their are so many gullible customers. However, my definition of shaking things up would’ve been a win not a huge loss!! Even John McCain says he sees more qualified people than Sarah Palin who he hill support for the 2012 Presidency. If she was part of Prophecy it’s definitely not the one by Kim Clement. Gov. Sarah was a panicked reaction when the whites saw President Barack had a chance to win even without Hillary Clinton as Vice President. Furthermore, not one Stockstill blogged, revealed, or rebuked Sarah Palin’s daughter(Bristol Palin) for SEX OUT OF MARRIAGE and a BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK!! Instead they continued focusing on Barack Obama! Bristol Palin gave birth to her child AND STILL REMAINS UNMARRIED!! What bias you and the Stockstills have!

 

 

5.)You’re definitely doing damage control on this one, LOL. Nowhere in his post does JOEL STOCKSTILL even hint that he had to travel to one of the most expensive and richer city in the U.S. FOR “DIALYSIS” or that he stayed with a friend in West Palm Beach. In his blog entry he clearly states it was “Hot and sticky” in Baton Rouge and when he arrived in West Palm Beach it was nice to get “A.C.” Or in his own words….

 

 

“NOTHING WORSE THAN NO AC!”

 

     If his dialysis treatments were that effected, he sure didn’t complain about it or seek treatment in Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, or the very close pan-handle of Florida. I’m sure there were no immediate areas for this Prosperity Preacher but “West Palm Beach” where the average single family home in 2007 was $396,000.00. For someone who constantly blogs about his health he definitely didn’t this time. In his words, “NOTHING WORSE THAN NO AC!”.

 

     Futhermore, I know people who are treated at the same facility(one is a family member who needs to stop smoking, yeah I went there on ya, LOL) and they were directed to alternate sites that were IMMEDIATELY restored. On top of that, anyone listening to the news knows that even the surrounding neighborhoods of hospitals recieved electricity. I’m also sure none of the surrounding parishes were able to take him. It’s ironic how my family member who receives the same number of treatments per week was able to remain in Louisiana and get treatment. I’m going to interview more patients and see how far they had to travel, I’m sure they couldn’t travel to West Palm Beach.

 

     Finally, he makes no mention of thanks to his “friend in West Palm Beach” for allowing him to stay in their West Palm Beach House. HOWEVER, he does state that some friends came down to visit him and join in the $hopping $pree$!! It would make more sense to thank his “friend” in West Palm Beach for allowing him to stay at his house. If he stayed with his friends in Orlando, Joel wouldn’t have said they “came down” to visit him and join in the $hopping $pree$. These friends had to travel from Orlando to West Palm Beach which is approximately 170.97 MILES which is about 2HOURS AND 42 MINUTES. Yeah but he stayed with them, SHAME ON YOU JORDAN!! Like my momma says, “TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL”.

 

“Today I had the opportunity to hang out with my good friends Jonathan and Christina Miller, who came down from Orlando. We preceded to hit EVERY MALL IN THE AREA and do some major damage of our own!”

 

     Hmmmm, sound like they were visiting his AC not vice-versa. But keep attempting to clean up behind your Sarah Palin everytime he puts his foot in his mouth! From the above evidence you clearly need to learn objectivity and stop with the damage control. Just repent and move on. Sarah Palin failed, Joel hated being without AC, and Obama is OUR President. I know it disgusts you to see that black face in a high place AND I LOVE IT!! HOW DID IT HAPPEN, huh?! Too bad FOR YOU America isn’t like THE WHITE DIXIE SOUTH!! Amen.

 And yes, I already know what Bethany is going to do to keep their biggest financial contributors(African Americans). They will promote  more black faces in high places(teachers, front pew with more black folks). The sad thing those black faces are not from black places. I’ve read their profiles they didn’t grow in black neighborhoods or went to black schools (high school or college). They’ve allowed the Stockstills to assimilate their culture.

***Please note I will interview my family member and staff at that dialysis center to get exact details concerning Gustav’s effects on their patients. But even without it, we’ve seen you’re Maverick cleanup. Again, I’m sure the other Parishes didn’t have dialysis centers or the surrounding states. It’s ironic how my family member was able to receive treatment here and didn’t have the access to church’s money for travel. I’ve also noticed Joel has added/edited his Palin Part2 blog, LOL. Feeling the heat huh?

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Pastor Rick Warren Teams Up With Pres. Obama Not Joel’s Annointed Palin Thursday, Dec 18 2008

Peace Be Upon You In The Name of Christ Jesus

 

     Wow, what a statement President-elect Barack Obama has made. Despite what the many McCain/Palin Supporters at Bethany  have said about Barack Obama, Barack shuts them up by uniting with Rick Warren. At the same time he’s angered many homosexuals and liberals. This says a lot to me about his balanced approached to uphold the U.S. Constitution and his Christian conviction. Again, I don’t deify Barack, ONLY CHRIST MY SAVIOR, Amen!  But I have to give him credit. I’m just amazed at how he continues to reach out to people he doesn’t agree with and/or folks who didn’t vote for him.

 

Rick Warren, "The most surprising thing to me is that some leaders that I think are spiritually mature leaders value political loyalty over family loyalty. " Rick Warren's response to Christians who rebuked him for praying for Pres. Obama.

 

 

     As noted in the above pic’s caption. Rick Warren  is catching insults and upsetting our so called Christian Conservatives for agreeing to pray with and for Obama.  As we have seen with The Stockstill’s, it suprised us to see how immature and predjudice some Christians can be.  They not only campaigned for Sarah Palin but rebuked those who didn’t agree she was  an “Annointed Phenomenon”.  It continues to sadden me as I’m meeting more whites who continue to voice their disgust and even claim we shouldn’t have a President with the name “BARACK”(You know who you are). It reminds me of the foolishness that Fox News put into people heads like Joel Stockstill who constantly quoted Fox. Rick Warren was suprised like us:

 

“The most surprising thing to me is that some leaders that I think are spiritually mature leaders value political loyalty over family loyalty. “

 

 

 

     Do you think  the Republicans would have reached out to those who didn’t vote for their party or seek to assist them? It’s a shame that even folks in other countries can not find an ounce of respect for Bush and hurl the lowest parts of their clothing(shoes) at our President  and calls him a dog. We know from ancient times a “DOG” is an unclean animal. Total disrespect.

 

1. Mt. 7:6-Give not that which is holy unto the dogs.
2. Php. 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision
3. Rev. 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral

 

     I mean really, he’s not even their President and they can’t stand him. Even when I was on vacation in Central America people would ask, “What’s the deal with your president[Bush]?”. 

 

     We have to remember that Our President has to uphold the U.S. Constitution and represent us to the World.  This is why Presidents like Bush who claimed they were against gay agendas and abortion never changed a thing. We elected them and found our families were helped but the rich got richer. It’s politics not church. Bobby Jindal is a Catholic but Protestants and Country Charismatics will vote for him because he’s Republican. It’s amazing how Televangelist like Larry Stockstill tell their followers not to vote for a party yet that’s just what they do.

 

Wow, a whole shoe!!

Ovadyah

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